Classic Tapa Contest — 11th Feb to 31st March
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Logic Masters India announces Classic Tapa Contest

Dates : 11th Feb — 31st March

Solving Mode : Online

Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/
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About Classic Tapa Contest

  • Classic Tapa Contest (CTC) is a contest for solving Classic Tapa Puzzles, along with its older sibling "Tapa Variation Contest".
  • Everyday a new Tapa will be available to solve. Unlike TVC, all puzzles in CTCs are to be solved online.
  • At the end of 2 months (exactly on the same day as TVC ends), a winner will be declared. The winner of CTC will have a title called Classic Tapa Master.
  • First three competitor will get a Tapa puzzle book which is prepared by Serkan.

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Supported Browsers

Following browsers are supported : Google Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer.
We have tested on Opera and found minor issues with when right clicking. So, please use one of the other browsers.

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Trial Puzzles

Several Trial puzzles are available to solve. Players are requested to solve the Trial puzzles. If someone is facing any problems, please report here.
It will be nice if you can specify browser name and version, Flash version (and optionally OS) while reporting any problems.

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-02-08 10:46 AM

Very nice concept.
Looking forward for other puzzle types as well.

I have a question regarding the timer, if 60 minutes is the limit then why the timer is starting from 0 rather than 60 ?.
I mean the timer should go from 60 to 0 as in usual LMI monthly tests.

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deu posted @ 2012-02-08 11:14 AM

I'm really looking forward to Tapa months. I have two questions about scoring.

1. Are there any penalties for wrong submissions?
I submitted wrong answers in some trial puzzles, but there were no penalties.
If this also applies to real competition puzzles, I feel very happy!

2. How will you decide total ranking?
(Total time or total rank) for (all 50 or best **) puzzles?
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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-08 12:17 PM

Based on a suggestion from a player, we have enabled "Shift + Left Click". Here is the summary of mouse clicks.

Summary of Mouse clicks

  • Left Click - Toggle shading of a cell
  • Left Click + Drag to shade multiple cells.
  • Shift+Left Click - Mark a circle in the cell.
  • Shift + Left mouse click + drag to mark circles in multiple cells.
  • Right Click - Toggle marking a circle in the cell.
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macherlakumar - 2012-02-08 10:46 AM

Very nice concept.
Looking forward for other puzzle types as well.
Depends upon other authors.

macherlakumar - 2012-02-08 10:46 AM
I have a question regarding the timer, if 60 minutes is the limit then why the timer is starting from 0 rather than 60 ?.
I mean the timer should go from 60 to 0 as in usual LMI monthly tests.
No particular reason.
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deu - 2012-02-08 11:14 AM

I'm really looking forward to Tapa months. I have two questions about scoring.

1. Are there any penalties for wrong submissions?
I submitted wrong answers in some trial puzzles, but there were no penalties.
If this also applies to real competition puzzles, I feel very happy!

I don't think Serkan is that kind. All wrong submissions will be penalized for real competitions puzzles.

deu - 2012-02-08 11:14 AM
2. How will you decide total ranking?
(Total time or total rank) for (all 50 or best **) puzzles?
The scoring system is designed by Cihan Altay. It will be uploaded soon.
@ 2012-02-08 2:36 PM (#6632 - in reply to #6622) (#6632)Quote Reply Top

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forcolin posted @ 2012-02-08 2:36 PM

will it be possible to catch up i.e. if I have no time to solve today's puzzle will I be able to solve it tomorrow?
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yureklis posted @ 2012-02-08 3:50 PM

forcolin - 2012-02-08 2:36 PM

will it be possible to catch up i.e. if I have no time to solve today's puzzle will I be able to solve it tomorrow?


Yes, every puzzle can be solved in 3 days, but 2nd and 3rd day has time/point disadvantages for solver.
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-02-08 11:50 PM

In my browser the Login button and some text is not visible..
I guess it is getting overlapped by HOW TO PLAY screen..
I am attaching the image showing the same.
PLease help.



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swaroop2011 - 2012-02-08 11:50 PM

In my browser the Login button and some text is not visible..
I guess it is getting overlapped by HOW TO PLAY screen..
I am attaching the image showing the same.
PLease help.


I somehow login but still not visible full screen, the puzzle is visible to solve.
i logged in using tab button and then pressing enter without seeing and then suddenly it logged in..
but still problem is there.
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swaroop2011 - 2012-02-08 11:50 PM

In my browser the Login button and some text is not visible..
I guess it is getting overlapped by HOW TO PLAY screen..
I am attaching the image showing the same.
PLease help.
Click on "Small Screen". This will make your playing area bigger. To permanently use this feature, use this link - http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/submit.asp?smallscreen=1
@ 2012-02-09 12:59 PM (#6639 - in reply to #6622) (#6639)Quote Reply Top

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rvarun posted @ 2012-02-09 12:59 PM

I am not able to see my Login area and buttons. I use IE8.

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rvarun posted @ 2012-02-09 1:01 PM

But I see my login page in Firefox.
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-02-10 12:40 AM

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swaroop2011 - 2012-02-08 11:50 PM

In my browser the Login button and some text is not visible..
I guess it is getting overlapped by HOW TO PLAY screen..
I am attaching the image showing the same.
PLease help.
Click on "Small Screen". This will make your playing area bigger. To permanently use this feature, use this link - http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/submit.asp?smallscreen=1


Thanks now its fine atleast we can see the playing area in this screen and scoring area in that scree. :)
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jalbert posted @ 2012-02-10 6:17 AM

Thanks for fun the puzzles! I've tried a couple and I think my answers were correct. When I submit, it says they are wrong. Could I be shading the wrong color? I am using Firefox 10.0.
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jalbert - 2012-02-10 6:17 AM

Thanks for fun the puzzles! I've tried a couple and I think my answers were correct. When I submit, it says they are wrong. Could I be shading the wrong color? I am using Firefox 10.0.
Color does not matter. Please check my PM.
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jalbert - 2012-02-10 6:17 AM

Thanks for fun the puzzles! I've tried a couple and I think my answers were correct. When I submit, it says they are wrong. Could I be shading the wrong color? I am using Firefox 10.0.
We had a chat and this is resolved now.
jalbert was marking the white cells in a different color.

So, if someone else who hasn't figured out yet, please note that, white cells can be left blank or can be marked with a circle of any color.
All shaded cells HAVE to be colored (any color is fine)
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CTC Scoring system

  • 2 minutes penalty for each wrong submission
  • 15% time penalty for each late day (maximum 2 late days are allowed – so a puzzle can be solved upto 72 hours after it is uploaded)
  • Each puzzle has its own points, which is computed from solving times of top 10% players on that day.
  • Each player gets points for solving a puzzle based on own solving time and others’ solving times. Exponential distribution is used.
  • Total points for a player is sum of puzzle points over 50 days.


Details in the pdf file Download | View

Here is the link to view the results for trial puzzles (02-Feb to 9-Feb ) xttp://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/ trialscore.asp with assumptions that 1) everyone solved the puzzle on the day it was uploaded and 2) MED is simple median of all players

Score page for trial puzzles no more available
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BohemianCoast posted @ 2012-02-10 4:15 PM

Most people will know this, but CTRL-click to clear will be CMD-click (apple-click) on a Mac. In the instructions, it says you can start a puzzle 'any time in the next 24 hours' but that's actually 72 hours (with penalty) right?

Gosh I am *so rubbish* at Tapa.
@ 2012-02-11 12:37 AM (#6662 - in reply to #6658) (#6662)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-11 12:37 AM

CTC has started. All puzzles from 11-Feb will be used as contest puzzles.

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Para posted @ 2012-02-11 2:26 AM

So the CTC rotates around the server time and not GMT like the other contests?
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Para - 2012-02-11 2:26 AM

So the CTC rotates around the server time and not GMT like the other contests?
That is correct. It was bit of challenge to make it GMT based. Hope it is not too much of trouble for players. Once the cycle starts, it shouldn't matter which timezone is followed.


CTC has started. All puzzles from 11-Feb will be used as contest puzzles.

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Para posted @ 2012-02-11 2:38 AM

One more question. In the standings, is the penalty already added? It wasn't the case for the test puzzles, but that might be because the scoring hadn't been announced yet.

[edit]

Okay more questions. I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?

I had this question before, but never asked. Will all puzzles be the same size or can we expect larger puzzles?

Edited by Para 2012-02-11 2:41 AM
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Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
One more question. In the standings, is the penalty already added? It wasn't the case for the test puzzles, but that might be because the scoring hadn't been announced yet.

Thanks for reminding. Yes, standing is computed after penalty is added.
Added "W" column to show that.
Hope to get the "actual" score page ready soon.

Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I had this question before, but never asked. Will all puzzles be the same size or can we expect larger puzzles?

Serkan mentioned that maximum size will be 12X12.
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Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?

The information is stored in LMI server. So it is possible to watch others' solves. I was not sure if anybody would be interested in that.
But we can easily add that feature.

(We probably need players' permission to allow this. I don't know how it works in other websites)
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kiwijam posted @ 2012-02-11 3:50 AM

When I've finished my puzzle, do I need to close the window and then load a new page again to see an updated score table?
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kiwijam - 2012-02-11 3:50 AM

When I've finished my puzzle, do I need to close the window and then load a new page again to see an updated score table?
No. Just click on the date (from the 16 dates shown) again.
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kiwijam posted @ 2012-02-11 4:08 AM

Will it be possible to see more than the Top 20 CTC scores somewhere? Us slow puzzlers like to know how we're going too... :)

Edited by kiwijam 2012-02-11 4:08 AM
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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-02-11 9:38 AM

Are trial puzzles for practice still available? Thanks.
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PuzzleScott - 2012-02-11 9:38 AM

Are trial puzzles for practice still available? Thanks.
Yes. All puzzles for dates 10th Feb and earlier are trial puzzles.
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BohemianCoast posted @ 2012-02-11 1:56 PM

Is there any way to see your personal rank and standing? I know I'm never going to trouble the top 20, but I like seeing that I'm 160th out of 290 or whatever.
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kiwijam - 2012-02-11 4:08 AM

Will it be possible to see more than the Top 20 CTC scores somewhere? Us slow puzzlers like to know how we're going too... :)

BohemianCoast - 2012-02-11 1:56 PM

Is there any way to see your personal rank and standing? I know I'm never going to trouble the top 20, but I like seeing that I'm 160th out of 290 or whatever.
Yes, detailed score page will be available. Allow us few hours to make it ready.
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BohemianCoast - 2012-02-11 1:56 PM

Is there any way to see your personal rank and standing? I know I'm never going to trouble the top 20, but I like seeing that I'm 160th out of 290 or whatever.

Today's standing page is added (just a placeholder, before we get the final score page)

Link - http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/score.asp
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Valezius posted @ 2012-02-12 8:24 PM

It seems to me that the 2 minutes penalty is extreme severe.

I dont like the change of rules after the start, but in this case we will get the final points of first puzzle just tomorrow evening. (GMT)

I suggest a 20-30% penalty instead of the fix 2 minutes. I think it would be more correct.

(And in this case I think it is better, if the penalties are added and not multiplied. For instanse 2 mistake is 40% (x1,4) instead of 44% (x1,2x1,2) )

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tamz29 posted @ 2012-02-12 9:56 PM

Personally I dislike the idea of solving a puzzle within 24 hours for a whole month.
The penalty regarding the day of solving seems unfair.
It forces you to log on everyday or have your scores reduced.
I don't know if anyone is experiencing any problems, but I somehow can't go to the competition page today.
It doesn't load. :(
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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-02-13 12:32 AM

Please ignore the post.Message sent to Administrator.

Edited by macherlakumar 2012-02-13 12:37 AM
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rvarun posted @ 2012-02-13 2:12 AM

Is there any provision to view Cumulative Ranking upto the previous day. I see provision to see only the Current day's ranking.
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forcolin posted @ 2012-02-13 4:41 AM

I agree with Valezius and Tamz. This contest is different from any other puzzle contests and daily frequency is essential, it is my opinion it shoud not be taken into account for the calculation of the ranking.
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yureklis posted @ 2012-02-13 6:18 AM

Interesting, interesting because I didn't get it. Everytime we discussed about this contest, we (Deb and me) thought of CrocoPuzzle as an example. CrocoPuzzle has a system, and CTC works same as it. Also if i know correctly, CrocoPuzzle's daily puzzles are really daily puzzles, there are only 24 hours to solve. So we wanted to expand time period. When we made this, we had only one aim: giving a chance to all competitors. Because everyone may not have free time or something. So we made 3 days, and when we made this we thought that we are making a useful thing. So now i see some competitors dont think like us. If we didnt make 3 days, it was better? I don't think so.

You can think of this contest as "one day to solve" (like CrocoPuzzle), not 3 days, and go on.

About penalty points, we built a point system. One variant of the system is penalty points. 50 puzzles may have different difficulties. It'll has 30 seconds puzzles, 15 minutes puzzles; so when we thought about puzzle difficulty distribution we decided on 2 minutes. It is very early to say penalty points is much. Not much according to me. As I said above, we considered CrocoPuzzle system, and we built a thing. CrocoPuzzle gives +5 minutes penalty on each wrong submission, i am saying this because it also has a wide variety of different difficulties, and this system is accepted and being used for a long time. I think 2 minutes penalty seems pretty reasonable compared to it.

So i can say that rules are set and valid for every competitor and there won't be any changes on the system. We'll see how it works during the 50 days. Next year maybe we can come up with an improved system considering the suggestions, but this is the deal for this year.
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motris posted @ 2012-02-13 7:58 AM

While crocopuzzle is an everyday puzzle, you cannot compete in a day and it does not hurt your score. You choose to compete when you can, and the goals are both personal and interpersonal. So it works well as an everyday puzzle system because you opt in. I don't know, for a solver who can't do weekdays, or weekends, that this system with a rigid system really matches someone who would appreciate breaks.

Also, to be very clear as I think some people miss this, Crocopuzzle DOES NOT use a 5 minute penalty. This may be what you see reported on the published time ranking page, because until the puzzle is finished the error is not fixed. The actual penalty time is based on the median solve time of all the puzzle solvers without errors. It scales with difficulty. I think it is too punitive, as it is ~100% puzzle time value, and think Valezius at 20-30% is in a much better range with a proportional score. But indeed it can be 1m to 2h on different puzzles.
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rakesh_rai posted @ 2012-02-13 6:32 PM

Is the penalty 2 minutes or 15% now?

I would have assumed it to be 2 minutes as it was clearly mentioned before the start of CTC. But when I look at scores, I see 15% at some places, 120 minutes at some others and, 15% + 120 also at some places.
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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-02-13 7:07 PM

rakesh_rai - 2012-02-13 6:32 PMIs the penalty 2 minutes or 15% now?

I would have assumed it to be 2 minutes as it was clearly mentioned before the start of CTC. But when I look at scores, I see 15% at some places, 120 minutes at some others and, 15% + 120 also at some places.


Hi,
Both of them are there. 2 minutes penalty in case of incorrect submission and 15% or 30% penalty in case of late attempt, that means attempting yesterday or day before yesterday puzzle.
Hope this clears your confusion.

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-02-14 7:55 AM

Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players.
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PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM

Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players.
Yes, allow us some time.
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PuzzleScot posted @ 2012-02-14 4:49 PM

Most enjoyable - thank-you for this! I made some comments on UKPA's forum before noticing this discussion.

To repeat:
- It's a pity we can't see a full leaderboard for each day's puzzles...
- ... also that there are no times shown.
- A final nice touch to the interface would be right-click and drag for multiple empty cells.
- Make competitive entry valid only on that specific day (or just last 7 days), then we can discuss puzzles after they have elapsed.

My suggestions for puzzle availability and leaderboards are based on those at http://www.kwontomloop.com/ which I think works very well.
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PuzzleScot - 2012-02-14 4:49 PM

To repeat:
- It's a pity we can't see a full leaderboard for each day's puzzles...
- ... also that there are no times shown.


There is a different link for standings : http://logicmastersindia.com/CTC/score.asp - You should see both the tables there.
(You can't see today's timing unless you have solved today's puzzle)


PuzzleScot - 2012-02-14 4:49 PM
- A final nice touch to the interface would be right-click and drag for multiple empty cells.

Agreed.
Have no idea how to do using flash.
You can use Shift + drag for multiple empty cells (like Nikoli)
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Para posted @ 2012-02-15 11:10 AM

Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle.
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Para - 2012-02-15 11:10 AM

Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle.
Sent you alternate link - Check PM
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Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?

PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM
Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players.

Others' Solve Sequences

You can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.

Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours).

It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.



Edited by Rohan Rao 2012-02-15 7:29 PM
@ 2012-02-15 8:16 PM (#6729 - in reply to #6728) (#6729)Quote Reply Top

Valezius



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Valezius posted @ 2012-02-15 8:16 PM

Fantastic!
Thanks.
@ 2012-02-15 11:12 PM (#6733 - in reply to #6728) (#6733)Quote Reply Top

sonnylaskar



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sonnylaskar posted @ 2012-02-15 11:12 PM

Administrator - 2012-02-15 7:05 PM

Para - 2012-02-11 2:38 AM
I see we can rewatch our own solves. Will this be the case for other people's solves once the puzzle is over?

PuzzleScott - 2012-02-14 7:55 AM
Is it possible to see other player's solve sequences? I doubt I'll ever place top 20, but I'm sure I could improve my Tapa solving by studying the solve sequences of good players.

Others' Solve Sequences

You can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.

Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours).

It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.



This feature is awesome. But if there would have been like a 'pause' button then it would be even more useful as we could get more idea about the logic used by the solver.
@ 2012-02-16 9:43 PM (#6734 - in reply to #6622) (#6734)Quote Reply Top

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Gareth posted @ 2012-02-16 9:43 PM

It's hardly important, but the playback doesn't work entirely accurately. For example my playbacks of 11th Feb and 15th Feb are wrong - they leave unconnected regions.

This might be related to me using Chrome - when I click to 'unshade' a square it sometimes flickers on and off rapidly instead of clearing (I'm also unable to reliably mark off used clues - I think that often a single click is treated as multiple clicks).

Edited by Gareth 2012-02-16 9:46 PM
@ 2012-02-17 4:34 AM (#6735 - in reply to #6727) (#6735)Quote Reply Top

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mucha posted @ 2012-02-17 4:34 AM

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Para - 2012-02-15 11:10 AM

Can you make it possible to log in with a different account somewhere on the CTC page. My girlfriend is visiting and we can't see where she can log in to do the puzzle.
Sent you alternate link - Check PM


Same problem here, can I get the alternate link as well?
@ 2012-02-17 6:28 AM (#6736 - in reply to #6735) (#6736)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-17 6:28 AM

mucha - 2012-02-17 4:34 AM

Same problem here, can I get the alternate link as well?
Sent you alternate link - Check PM
@ 2012-02-17 10:32 PM (#6743 - in reply to #6622) (#6743)Quote Reply Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-02-17 10:32 PM

Is it possible to filter results by Country like in usual LMI tests ?.
I know I am asking for something which involves effort again, if it involves more effort then do not do it, if it involves less effort then please do it.

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ravi
@ 2012-02-20 3:52 AM (#6752 - in reply to #6622) (#6752)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-02-20 3:52 AM

Interesting. First top score with penalty on the 18th.
@ 2012-02-23 2:03 PM (#6768 - in reply to #6622) (#6768)Quote Reply Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-02-23 2:03 PM

How are standings computed? E.g., CoPo for daily rank? How are cumulative standings (ToPo?) calculated from daily results? Num days in CTC cumulative standings seems to have maxed out at 6.

I'm enjoying the contest in the basement :)

Thanks.
@ 2012-02-23 8:30 PM (#6769 - in reply to #6768) (#6769)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-23 8:30 PM

PuzzleScott - 2012-02-23 2:03 PM

How are standings computed? E.g., CoPo for daily rank? How are cumulative standings (ToPo?) calculated from daily results? Num days in CTC cumulative standings seems to have maxed out at 6.

I'm enjoying the contest in the basement :)

Thanks.


CoTi ( Competitor's time ) = Seconds Taken * Day Factor + 120 * Number of Wrong Submissions
CoPo ( Competitor's Points) is calculated from "average CoTi of top 10% of players", median of all CoTi for the day, and your own CoTi
ToPo (Total Points) is just sum of all CoPo's across all days.

Details posted in this post : http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=445&s...
@ 2012-02-24 7:41 PM (#6773 - in reply to #6622) (#6773)Quote Reply Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-02-24 7:41 PM

seems yesterdays was big pionts gunner,,
todays is low points stunner :p
@ 2012-02-26 9:01 AM (#6783 - in reply to #6622) (#6783)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-02-26 9:01 AM

With Palmer finally messing up a puzzle, everyone else has a realistic chance of topping the ladder today.
@ 2012-02-26 11:34 AM (#6784 - in reply to #6728) (#6784)Quote Reply Top

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rajeshk posted @ 2012-02-26 11:34 AM

Administrator - 2012-02-15 7:05 PM


Others' Solve Sequences

You can now watch others players' solve sequences. It is available in the score page.

Please note : You can watch only if you have solved that particular day's puzzle OR if that particular day does not count towards contest points anymore (>72 hours).

It may not be how you expected it, but I'm particularly happy about bringing this to everyone. If you have other suggestions / feedback let us know.



This is wonderful feature. Thanks for implementing this feature.


@ 2012-02-28 12:46 AM (#6794 - in reply to #6622) (#6794)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-02-28 12:46 AM

@Fred76, It looks like, after all the debate, you have finally taken up tapanje
@ 2012-02-28 3:25 AM (#6795 - in reply to #6794) (#6795)Quote Reply Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2012-02-28 3:25 AM

debmohanty - 2012-02-28 12:46 AM

@Fred76, It looks like, after all the debate, you have finally taken up tapanje


I slowly begin to solve "nonsudoku" puzzles. I need time to get into each new stuff. It is well-known that Swiss people are slow.
With tapas, my goal is to be competitive in the year 2062.

Fred
@ 2012-02-28 4:04 AM (#6796 - in reply to #6795) (#6796)Quote Reply Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-28 4:04 AM

Fred76 - 2012-02-28 3:25 AM
It is well-known that Swiss people are slow.


Fabian Cancellara really wants to have a word with you.

@ 2012-02-29 2:50 PM (#6812 - in reply to #6622) (#6812)Quote Reply Top

mucha



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mucha posted @ 2012-02-29 2:50 PM

Is there any chance we could get a pdf file with the puzzles published so far, updated once a week or or just the whole first month? That would be great for practicing on a bus etc.
Marcin
@ 2012-03-01 5:36 AM (#6819 - in reply to #6725) (#6819)Quote Reply Top

aldentea



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aldentea posted @ 2012-03-01 5:36 AM

Administrator - 2012-02-14 8:03 PM

(You can't see today's timing unless you have solved today's puzzle)



I find that I can see today's timing at "Results by Players" view (though I haven't solved today's puzzle yet).
Is this an expected behavior?
@ 2012-03-01 5:53 AM (#6820 - in reply to #6819) (#6820)Quote Reply Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-01 5:53 AM

aldentea - 2012-03-01 5:36 AM

Administrator - 2012-02-14 8:03 PM

(You can't see today's timing unless you have solved today's puzzle)



I find that I can see today's timing at "Results by Players" view (though I haven't solved today's puzzle yet).
Is this an expected behavior?
No, it was not intended.
@ 2012-03-01 6:06 AM (#6821 - in reply to #6820) (#6821)Quote Reply Top

aldentea



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aldentea posted @ 2012-03-01 6:06 AM

Administrator - 2012-03-01 8:53 AM

No, it was not intended.


...sorry, I'll pretend to forget this issue. (I hope everyone will do.)
@ 2012-03-01 6:09 AM (#6822 - in reply to #6821) (#6822)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-01 6:09 AM

aldentea - 2012-03-01 6:06 AM

Administrator - 2012-03-01 8:53 AM

No, it was not intended.


...sorry, I'll pretend to forget this issue. (I hope everyone will do.)
For now, today's timing is not seen from "Results By Players" page, even after you complete today's puzzle.
@ 2012-03-01 5:17 PM (#6827 - in reply to #6822) (#6827)Quote Reply Top

aldentea



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aldentea posted @ 2012-03-01 5:17 PM

Administrator - 2012-03-01 9:09 AM
For now, today's timing is not seen from "Results By Players" page, even after you complete today's puzzle.


Thanks. I think this may be better.
@ 2012-03-06 11:22 PM (#6850 - in reply to #6622) (#6850)Quote Reply Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-03-06 11:22 PM

How many days will this contest last? I thought it was 50 days but the CTC page says n of 60 with each puzzle.
@ 2012-03-07 12:05 AM (#6851 - in reply to #6850) (#6851)Quote Reply Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-03-07 12:05 AM

Para - 2012-03-06 11:22 PMHow many days will this contest last? I thought it was 50 days but the CTC page says n of 60 with each puzzle.

Hi,
It is 50 days only. it shows 60 days including the practise puzzles from Feb 1 - 10.

Regards,
Ravi
@ 2012-03-07 7:14 AM (#6852 - in reply to #6850) (#6852)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-07 7:14 AM

Para - 2012-03-06 11:22 PM

How many days will this contest last? I thought it was 50 days but the CTC page says n of 60 with each puzzle.

It should show "Day n of 50" now.
And we are past the half mark.
@ 2012-03-08 11:02 AM (#6855 - in reply to #6752) (#6855)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-08 11:02 AM

Para - 2012-02-20 3:52 AM

Interesting. First top score with penalty on the 18th.
Same on 7th-March
@ 2012-03-09 9:17 AM (#6858 - in reply to #6622) (#6858)Quote Reply Top

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Yokipi posted @ 2012-03-09 9:17 AM

I am having trouble starting today's puzzle. It says "Started" and will not begin the countdown of the timer when I click the puzzle.

Also, I sent a PM about a logout issue that was never addressed.
@ 2012-03-09 10:05 AM (#6859 - in reply to #6858) (#6859)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-09 10:05 AM

Yokipi - 2012-03-09 9:17 AM

I am having trouble starting today's puzzle. It says "Started" and will not begin the countdown of the timer when I click the puzzle.
Not sure what could be the issue. I see that others are able to start. In any case, I have removed your start. Can you refresh the page and try again?
Yokipi - 2012-03-09 9:17 AM
Also, I sent a PM about a logout issue that was never addressed.
Apologies about the delay in reply. It is not possible to logout currently, which I realize is a bad design.
@ 2012-03-10 6:44 PM (#6868 - in reply to #6622) (#6868)Quote Reply Top

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Gareth posted @ 2012-03-10 6:44 PM

The options at the top of the player don't display properly on today's puzzle - they're hidden behind a scrollbar.
@ 2012-03-10 6:52 PM (#6869 - in reply to #6868) (#6869)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-10 6:52 PM

Gareth - 2012-03-10 6:44 PM

The options at the top of the player don't display properly on today's puzzle - they're hidden behind a scrollbar.
Fixed
@ 2012-03-11 12:49 AM (#6870 - in reply to #6622) (#6870)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-11 12:49 AM

I really thought we would have someone from India at the top yesterday (10th-Mar puzzle), but in the last hour ...
@ 2012-03-11 5:33 AM (#6872 - in reply to #6622) (#6872)Quote Reply Top

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devarajand posted @ 2012-03-11 5:33 AM

I have solved all days but in the results i find one day less
@ 2012-03-11 5:57 AM (#6873 - in reply to #6872) (#6873)Quote Reply Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-11 5:57 AM

devarajand - 2012-03-11 5:33 AM

I have solved all days but in the results i find one day less
It looks like a 'reporting' bug. For one of the days, your CoPo is almost 0. We'll get it fixed.
@ 2012-03-14 12:21 AM (#6899 - in reply to #6622) (#6899)Quote Reply Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-03-14 12:21 AM

There was a change in the top 3 for the first time since ages.

On an unrelated note, are other people rating these puzzles too?
@ 2012-03-14 12:30 AM (#6900 - in reply to #6899) (#6900)Quote Reply Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-03-14 12:30 AM

Para - 2012-03-14 12:21 AM On an unrelated note, are other people rating these puzzles too?

Yes I am rating the puzzles.

Regards,
Ravi
@ 2012-03-14 12:47 AM (#6901 - in reply to #6899) (#6901)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-14 12:47 AM

Para - 2012-03-14 12:21 AM
On an unrelated note, are other people rating these puzzles too?


Ah I did at the start and then I've forgotten to for a long while. I'll go back and rate them soon I guess.
@ 2012-03-14 11:14 AM (#6905 - in reply to #6622) (#6905)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-14 11:14 AM

Average Ratings can now be seen from the score page (Day-wise Statistics)

I always thought 14-Feb's puzzle will have the highest rating, but that is not the case :-(
@ 2012-03-14 2:24 PM (#6907 - in reply to #6905) (#6907)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-14 2:24 PM

I gave it a 10 at any rate :D
@ 2012-03-16 12:12 AM (#6930 - in reply to #6622) (#6930)Quote Reply Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-03-16 12:12 AM

Hi,
I am not sure if others are facing this issue or not, whenever the grid size is decreasing the options above it are being hide by a scroll bar.
Even toggling to full screen did not help.

Regards,
Ravi

Edited by macherlakumar 2012-03-16 12:14 AM




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@ 2012-03-16 3:04 AM (#6932 - in reply to #6622) (#6932)Quote Reply Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-03-16 3:04 AM

I'm also getting the puzzle display problem on the Mar. 16 puzzle where a scroll bar hides the controls. I had this problem at least on other day awhile back. Resizing the main window doesn't help, and the puzzle pane doesn't seem resizable.
@ 2012-03-20 12:20 AM (#6956 - in reply to #6932) (#6956)Quote Reply Top

Valezius



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Valezius posted @ 2012-03-20 12:20 AM

I can't submit my solution.
I almost sure, it is correct.
@ 2012-03-20 12:22 AM (#6958 - in reply to #6622) (#6958)Quote Reply Top

Manu



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Manu posted @ 2012-03-20 12:22 AM

I have the same problem!
@ 2012-03-20 12:24 AM (#6959 - in reply to #6622) (#6959)Quote Reply Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-03-20 12:24 AM

ya me too
@ 2012-03-20 12:28 AM (#6960 - in reply to #6622) (#6960)Quote Reply Top

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Tablesaw posted @ 2012-03-20 12:28 AM

I believe there is an error in today's puzzle. Who should I contact about it?

To clarify. The correct answer was not accepted, and a clearly incorrect answer was.

Edited by Tablesaw 2012-03-20 12:28 AM
@ 2012-03-20 12:29 AM (#6961 - in reply to #6622) (#6961)Quote Reply Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2012-03-20 12:29 AM

I have the correct solution.But the server says wrong solution.
@ 2012-03-20 12:30 AM (#6962 - in reply to #6622) (#6962)Quote Reply Top

mucha



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mucha posted @ 2012-03-20 12:30 AM

Me too
@ 2012-03-20 12:31 AM (#6963 - in reply to #6622) (#6963)Quote Reply Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2012-03-20 12:31 AM

Perhaps,the administrator should either drop this one,or schedule a fresh one later at a pre-specified time(12 hours later?).
@ 2012-03-20 12:51 AM (#6964 - in reply to #6622) (#6964)Quote Reply Top

eklavyagirotra



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eklavyagirotra posted @ 2012-03-20 12:51 AM

I have an issue with this puzzle..I have the correct answer...It is not accepting it....
@ 2012-03-20 12:55 AM (#6965 - in reply to #6622) (#6965)Quote Reply Top

Tablesaw



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Tablesaw posted @ 2012-03-20 12:55 AM

I believe the corrected puzzle should replace the lower-right 6 with a 5.
@ 2012-03-20 12:58 AM (#6966 - in reply to #6622) (#6966)Quote Reply Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-20 12:58 AM

Announcement - 20-Mar puzzle is wrong

As many of you have found out by now, 20-Mar puzzle is wrong. (It is wrong by a digit, ah well). At this point, we are cancelling this puzzle and there will NOT be any replacement puzzle.


@ 2012-03-20 1:03 AM (#6967 - in reply to #6966) (#6967)Quote Reply Top

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Valezius posted @ 2012-03-20 1:03 AM

I enjoyed it nevertheless :)
@ 2012-03-20 1:04 AM (#6968 - in reply to #6966) (#6968)Quote Reply Top

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sonnylaskar posted @ 2012-03-20 1:04 AM

I got this solution but as mentioned it was not accepted:




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@ 2012-03-20 1:11 AM (#6969 - in reply to #6622) (#6969)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-20 1:11 AM

Ya I enjoyed it too. Its a pity it won't be counted in them. One of the best IMO. Of course, I had seen once I was about to start at 12.12 that no one had finished yet, so I did it really slowly after a starting risk with T&E just for the possibility of getting an awesome time :P Was fun for the time I did it slowly. Funny how even after changing a digit there was a uniquely solvable puzzle.
@ 2012-03-20 2:05 AM (#6970 - in reply to #6969) (#6970)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-20 2:05 AM

Re Prasanna: I'm coming late to the party and assuming that Tablesaw's comment means the server's solution treated R8C8 as a 5, but actually the puzzle as presented (with a 6) is the only one that's unique. With a 5 there, many other solutions exist. That is a pretty nice puzzle too.
@ 2012-03-20 2:55 AM (#6971 - in reply to #6970) (#6971)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-20 2:55 AM

MellowMelon - 2012-03-20 2:05 AM

Re Prasanna: I'm coming late to the party and assuming that Tablesaw's comment means the server's solution treated R8C8 as a 5, but actually the puzzle as presented (with a 6) is the only one that's unique. With a 5 there, many other solutions exist. That is a pretty nice puzzle too.


You're right on your assumption(according to Deb). As for the multiple solutions, since the solution is treated as a 5, I assumed that to be correct and forming a valid puzzle, and didn't really check it out. Having looked back, I agree my assumption was wrong, and that only the one with a 6 gives a unique solution.
@ 2012-03-20 1:27 PM (#6981 - in reply to #6966) (#6981)Quote Reply Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-03-20 1:27 PM

Administrator - 2012-03-20 12:58 AM

Announcement - 20-Mar puzzle is wrong

As many of you have found out by now, 20-Mar puzzle is wrong. (It is wrong by a digit, ah well). At this point, we are cancelling this puzzle and there will NOT be any replacement puzzle.




Will there be a 50th puzzle added at the end or will the competition last for 49 puzzles now? I was just wondering as there seems to be a possibility developing that Valezius can catch up to places 2 and 3 as the gap has shortened considerably in the last few days. It might not make a difference but it could. Also I've been closing the gap to place 4 again, but the top 3 change would of course be a bigger development as that's been the same three people for well as long as I've been keeping track.
@ 2012-03-20 1:38 PM (#6982 - in reply to #6970) (#6982)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-20 1:38 PM

MellowMelon - 2012-03-20 2:05 AM

Re Prasanna: I'm coming late to the party and assuming that Tablesaw's comment means the server's solution treated R8C8 as a 5, but actually the puzzle as presented (with a 6) is the only one that's unique. With a 5 there, many other solutions exist. That is a pretty nice puzzle too.
Yeah, the problem was the recorded solution was wrong. The puzzle itself was valid.
We could have fixed the recorded solution, but by that time 2 players (Psyho and wielki_m) had submitted the wrong solution, which the system flagged as right and (possibly) had left the scene.


Para - 2012-03-20 1:27 PM
Will there be a 50th puzzle added at the end or will the competition last for 49 puzzles now?
We will most likely have 50 puzzles, so the last one appearing on 1st April. But I need to get it confirmed from Serkan. So a concrete answer is pending.


Edited by debmohanty 2012-03-20 1:44 PM
@ 2012-03-21 5:23 PM (#6990 - in reply to #6982) (#6990)Quote Reply Top

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Valezius posted @ 2012-03-21 5:23 PM

With this one day break we will solve the 50th puzzle on 30th of March.
And the TVC XII will finish on 2nd of April.
Is this accurate?
@ 2012-03-21 6:14 PM (#6991 - in reply to #6990) (#6991)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-21 6:14 PM

Valezius - 2012-03-21 5:23 PM

With this one day break we will solve the 50th puzzle on 30th of March.
And the TVC XII will finish on 2nd of April.
Is this accurate?


Seeing that today is day number 39, I think 50 will come on 1st April.
@ 2012-03-21 6:18 PM (#6992 - in reply to #6991) (#6992)Quote Reply Top

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Valezius posted @ 2012-03-21 6:18 PM

prasanna16391 - 2012-03-21 6:14 PM

Valezius - 2012-03-21 5:23 PM

With this one day break we will solve the 50th puzzle on 30th of March.
And the TVC XII will finish on 2nd of April.
Is this accurate?


Seeing that today is day number 39, I think 50 will come on 1st April.


Okey, I see.
@ 2012-03-22 3:38 AM (#6993 - in reply to #6970) (#6993)Quote Reply Top

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Tablesaw posted @ 2012-03-22 3:38 AM

I took a screenshot of the answer that was accepted. After the correct answer wasn't accepted, I tried redoing it to see if I missed something. Then I made the "correct" mistake.
@ 2012-03-22 3:52 AM (#6994 - in reply to #6993) (#6994)Quote Reply Top

Valezius



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Valezius posted @ 2012-03-22 3:52 AM

I deleted the picture. Please do not share information about the current puzzle in public...

Use the Private message function.


(I sent your picture to Deb)

Edited by Valezius 2012-03-22 3:57 AM
@ 2012-03-22 4:25 AM (#6995 - in reply to #6994) (#6995)Quote Reply Top

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Tablesaw posted @ 2012-03-22 4:25 AM

Valezius - 2012-03-21 1:52 PM

I deleted the picture. Please do not share information about the current puzzle in public...

Use the Private message function.


(I sent your picture to Deb)


Sorry if I was not clear, but that was not a screenshot of the current puzzle. It was the "correct" answer to the now-canceled, but much talked about puzzle from March 20.
@ 2012-03-22 9:35 PM (#6998 - in reply to #6982) (#6998)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-22 9:35 PM

debmohanty - 2012-03-20 1:38 PM

Para - 2012-03-20 1:27 PM
Will there be a 50th puzzle added at the end or will the competition last for 49 puzzles now?
We will most likely have 50 puzzles, so the last one appearing on 1st April. But I need to get it confirmed from Serkan. So a concrete answer is pending.
This is to confirm that a 50th puzzle will be added at the end.
@ 2012-03-23 4:01 AM (#6999 - in reply to #6622) (#6999)Quote Reply Top

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PuzzleScott posted @ 2012-03-23 4:01 AM

What does a "0" clue mean in standard tapa??? (23 Mar puzzle) Does it constrain anything (I don't see that it can in today's layout), or just add confusion?
@ 2012-03-23 4:27 AM (#7000 - in reply to #6999) (#7000)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-23 4:27 AM

In a clue with multiple numbers 0 can be ignored.
@ 2012-03-25 2:42 AM (#7005 - in reply to #6622) (#7005)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-03-25 2:42 AM

There's been a lot of hard puzzles at the end. It's causing a lot of big point jumps.
@ 2012-03-25 5:44 PM (#7006 - in reply to #7005) (#7006)Quote Reply Top

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Nikola posted @ 2012-03-25 5:44 PM

Yes, I just want to say that I'm a bit disappointed in classic tapa because there is no standard 10x10 puzzle which is not solved in less than two minutes by best players. If you want to keep 120 seconds limit unbroken, you must enlarge the grid size. I'm not sure that would be the case with any other puzzle type, except maybe ABC connection puzzle. Such contests are fun, but it seems they discover the real truth about the puzzle types.

Nikola
@ 2012-03-25 11:23 PM (#7010 - in reply to #7006) (#7010)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-03-25 11:23 PM

Nikola - 2012-03-25 5:44 PM

Yes, I just want to say that I'm a bit disappointed in classic tapa because there is no standard 10x10 puzzle which is not solved in less than two minutes by best players.


Well February 18th had a top 10% average of over 2 minutes, so that one comes close.
@ 2012-03-27 2:11 PM (#7020 - in reply to #7006) (#7020)Quote Reply Top

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yureklis posted @ 2012-03-27 2:11 PM

Nikola - 2012-03-25 5:44 PM

Yes, I just want to say that I'm a bit disappointed in classic tapa because there is no standard 10x10 puzzle which is not solved in less than two minutes by best players. If you want to keep 120 seconds limit unbroken, you must enlarge the grid size. I'm not sure that would be the case with any other puzzle type, except maybe ABC connection puzzle. Such contests are fun, but it seems they discover the real truth about the puzzle types.

Nikola


:)
Real truth is the function of "undo" button. Providing this button was a mistake (Deb didn't want to use it but i insisted) because solving with this button does not truly represent the action of Tapa solving. I made a lot of hard puzzles but this button makes everything so easy, it is so easy to make many trials and erase them.

I think what is discovered is how well a solver uses the undo button. It is not much related with Tapa.
@ 2012-03-27 5:11 PM (#7021 - in reply to #6622) (#7021)Quote Reply Top

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flk posted @ 2012-03-27 5:11 PM

Wow - somehow I managed to completely overlook the fact that there is an undo button. Could have saved me a lot of time! :p
@ 2012-03-27 7:22 PM (#7022 - in reply to #7021) (#7022)Quote Reply Top

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vopani posted @ 2012-03-27 7:22 PM

With 5 days to go, its an interesting fight between 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/6th/7th :-)
@ 2012-03-27 9:49 PM (#7023 - in reply to #7021) (#7023)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-27 9:49 PM

flk - 2012-03-27 5:11 PM

Wow - somehow I managed to completely overlook the fact that there is an undo button. Could have saved me a lot of time! :p


I'm yet to use the undo button myself but thats more to do with the fact that I just prefer a full clear and start over when I go wrong :P

I think the undo button is necessary though. Mis-clicks are always possible. The color changes are not as necessary IMO.
@ 2012-03-27 10:36 PM (#7024 - in reply to #7023) (#7024)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-27 10:36 PM

As we've found the unfortunate fact about doing Tapa of this size online is that guessing becomes a preferred strategy in many cases. I've kind of been worried that with the ability to make other solves viewable by anyone for this particular contest that it will give the illusion of "guessing is how good solvers get good times". That might be true for 10 by 10 Tapa, but absolutely not in general. Even for the 12 by 12 sizes I avoid just guessing my way through it, at least too early, because there's too large a search space, and my better performances on those have usually been with logic. My total inability to figure out what was going on for March 25th was a notable exception to that, and I did have to rely on luck/"tapa sense" there. I think there's a sweet spot for the difficulty of the larger puzzles that makes them hard but still preferable to do with logic from a speed-solving perspective. March 23rd was dead on in my opinion, and March 25th overshot it a bit.

That said, I don't think it's necessarily the Undo button itself that harms things. I typically forget about it and waste time erasing things manually when a guess screws up, which is still faster than erasing on paper, and online it doesn't leave distracting stray marks too.

Also, I have been going back after the days I bifurcate and solving these logically. Almost every puzzle is fantastically designed, even if it ends up that guessing is the fastest way to get through them, so it's more just a issue with this being a contest than a matter of puzzle quality. However there have been a few days where I've had trouble getting a logical solution without minor T&E. The ones that come to mind are February 25th, March 22nd, and March 25th.
@ 2012-03-28 12:13 AM (#7025 - in reply to #6622) (#7025)Quote Reply Top

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Manu posted @ 2012-03-28 12:13 AM

Hmm. Ich würde sagen, im heutigen Tapa ist ein Fehler. Und zwar links unten das Feld 1/1 - da gehört nur ein Einser rein. Oder?
@ 2012-03-28 12:18 AM (#7026 - in reply to #7025) (#7026)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-28 12:18 AM

Yeah, I think we have another goof. Judging from the lack of symmetry a clue near the bottom was misplaced.
@ 2012-03-28 12:18 AM (#7027 - in reply to #6622) (#7027)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-28 12:18 AM

Announcement - 28-Mar puzzle is wrong

As some of you have found out by now, 28-Mar puzzle is wrong. We are cancelling this puzzle and there will NOT be any replacement puzzle today.


@ 2012-03-28 1:49 AM (#7028 - in reply to #7027) (#7028)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-28 1:49 AM

For what it's worth, here's what today's puzzle almost certainly was intended to be. It's pretty nicely made and worth doing.
http://mellowmelon.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ctc-march27.png
(just noticed the filename is off from the date on LMI; blame time zones)

For extra fun, the solution remains unique and the puzzle gets a bit harder and nicer when you remove the four clues at the center of each cross.

Edited by MellowMelon 2012-03-28 1:50 AM
@ 2012-03-28 3:00 AM (#7029 - in reply to #7028) (#7029)Quote Reply Top

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yureklis posted @ 2012-03-28 3:00 AM

I am sorry for wrong puzzles. I have not so much time recently, really i have not. Actually i uploaded today's puzzle in last hour, i checked two times, but i missed. For example, yestarday's puzzle i uploaded in the car (same like today, in last hour) :) I hope that remaining puzzles will be good.
@ 2012-03-28 12:37 PM (#7031 - in reply to #6622) (#7031)Quote Reply Top

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BohemianCoast posted @ 2012-03-28 12:37 PM

I don't think the 'undo' button really makes much difference because you can obviously erase squares manually. But the multiple colours, as far as I can see, have no merit other than to encourage T&E.
@ 2012-03-28 9:02 PM (#7033 - in reply to #6622) (#7033)Quote Reply Top

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Gareth posted @ 2012-03-28 9:02 PM

The main problem I've had with the Tapa player is in fact exactly that I can't erase squares reliably. When I click on them there is a ~50% chance whether they empty or stay filled. Doesn't this affect everyone? I've only used Chrome, but I can't be the only one.

I also had to stop using the different colours because for whatever reason I found them so different in hue that my eye didn't "see" 2x2s or notice whether they were connected together - I've made literally hundreds of incorrect submissions. :)
@ 2012-03-28 9:33 PM (#7034 - in reply to #7033) (#7034)Quote Reply Top

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macherlakumar posted @ 2012-03-28 9:33 PM

Gareth - 2012-03-28 9:02 PMThe main problem I've had with the Tapa player is in fact exactly that I can't erase squares reliably. When I click on them there is a ~50% chance whether they empty or stay filled. Doesn't this affect everyone? I've only used Chrome, but I can't be the only one.


Yes even I have this issue, thought it was a mistake probably on my side for not clicking on the cell properly. Even I use chrome.

Regards,
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@ 2012-03-28 11:02 PM (#7039 - in reply to #7034) (#7039)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-03-28 11:02 PM

Also using chrome and have the same issue. That was the cause of the only 2-minute penalty I've gotten; it was my last click in that region and I instantly shifted my attention somewhere else without noticing the click hadn't gone through. The reliable method I've found since is to right-click on the square twice, which changes it into a dot and then to an empty square.
@ 2012-03-28 11:46 PM (#7040 - in reply to #7034) (#7040)Quote Reply Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2012-03-28 11:46 PM

I've only used Chrome
If it helps - I'm using Opera and see the same problem sometimes.
@ 2012-03-29 1:06 PM (#7049 - in reply to #6622) (#7049)Quote Reply Top

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flk posted @ 2012-03-29 1:06 PM

On a positive note, I've never experienced the issue - using Chrome.
@ 2012-03-31 12:03 AM (#7052 - in reply to #6622) (#7052)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-03-31 12:03 AM

Congrats Prasanna, for finally a well deserved first place. Happy for you.
@ 2012-03-31 12:14 AM (#7053 - in reply to #6622) (#7053)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-03-31 12:14 AM

Last 3 days of CTC

So we are nearing the end of CTC (this year). Today (31-March) is the 48th day, 1-Apr is the 49th day, 2-Apr is the 50th day.

Note that, although TVC will end on 2-Apr, CTC will officially end on 4-Apr.


@ 2012-03-31 12:16 AM (#7054 - in reply to #7052) (#7054)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-31 12:16 AM

debmohanty - 2012-03-31 12:03 AM

Congrats Prasanna, for finally a well deserved first place. Happy for you.


Thank you :) I guess almost everyone knows my big goal by now. Glad I achieved it, and a bit relieved after all those close ones. Of course there's still that possibility while the 72 hours are going, but I think I've done it. Seems I'm finishing the competition strongly.
@ 2012-03-31 2:13 AM (#7056 - in reply to #6622) (#7056)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-03-31 2:13 AM

How about we continue for another month, but don't tell Palmer about it till we're 2 weeks into the month?
@ 2012-03-31 10:08 AM (#7059 - in reply to #7056) (#7059)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-03-31 10:08 AM

Para - 2012-03-31 2:13 AM

How about we continue for another month, but don't tell Palmer about it till we're 2 weeks into the month?


Shhh. This is what private messages are for.
@ 2012-04-01 12:09 AM (#7061 - in reply to #7054) (#7061)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-04-01 12:09 AM

prasanna16391 - 2012-03-31 12:16 AM

Seems I'm finishing the competition strongly.


Or not :P
@ 2012-04-01 12:10 AM (#7062 - in reply to #6622) (#7062)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-04-01 12:10 AM

So, today was the day I messed up both my chances of finishing top 3 in the TVC and CTC in one go. Any chance I can erase today and start over?
@ 2012-04-01 9:25 PM (#7064 - in reply to #7062) (#7064)Quote Reply Top

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yureklis posted @ 2012-04-01 9:25 PM

:) The last puzzle of 2012 CTC was uploaded. :)x2, and good luck at the last one.
@ 2012-04-02 12:32 AM (#7065 - in reply to #6622) (#7065)Quote Reply Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-04-02 12:32 AM

finsihed with mess up ..
Njoyed a lot throughout this month ..
Thanks to Deb,LMI,serkan and all for the beautiful CTC puzzles. :)
@ 2012-04-02 2:05 AM (#7066 - in reply to #7065) (#7066)Quote Reply Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-04-02 2:05 AM

swaroop2011 - 2012-04-02 12:32 AM

finsihed with mess up ..


Hey thats my line. No one deserves to use that line more than me. I'll copyright that line.
@ 2012-04-02 2:52 AM (#7067 - in reply to #7066) (#7067)Quote Reply Top

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Nilz posted @ 2012-04-02 2:52 AM

Is today really the last one? What a horrible time to finish on from me! I think I can safely say that I won't be jumping up the leader board at the last minute, so congratulations to James for being the top UK competitor.
Thanks to Serkan for the puzzles. It did go on a little too long imho, but that's probably just me feeling bitter that after a few weeks (well, days) it became clear that I had no chance of making the top 3. I would've preferred 2 separate competitions of half the length (or, perhaps, 4 fortnightly contests, with each one finishing on the date of a TVC and getting progressively more difficult...)
@ 2012-04-02 6:05 AM (#7069 - in reply to #6622) (#7069)Quote Reply Top

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deu posted @ 2012-04-02 6:05 AM

Thanks for a great test! And I submitted a wrong answer for the first time in the last puzzle!
@ 2012-04-02 8:14 AM (#7070 - in reply to #6622) (#7070)Quote Reply Top

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devarajand posted @ 2012-04-02 8:14 AM

I will miss the routine daily morning test henceforth . I am a first timer and was able to submit answers to all but 1st april one when i had network issues and unable submit my answer. Any way great test, expecting more like this from LMI.
@ 2012-04-02 10:29 AM (#7071 - in reply to #6622) (#7071)Quote Reply Top

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EMJ posted @ 2012-04-02 10:29 AM

Thank you all so much! This was great fun. I will miss this - hope you'll have the willingness and energy to do this again. I loved the online solving and the mix of puzzles.
I hope the puzzles will remain online new puzzlers to tackle and for us to practice on. Is that possible? And now if you "review" a puzzle, clear, and re-solve it, you can not check your answer. Would it be possible to change that at some point?
I don't mean to be asking for so much - you all deserve a good rest. My main point in writing is just to thank you for a great time. Bravo!
@ 2012-04-02 10:44 AM (#7072 - in reply to #7069) (#7072)Quote Reply Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-04-02 10:44 AM

deu - 2012-04-01 6:05 PM

Thanks for a great test! And I submitted a wrong answer for the first time in the last puzzle!

I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that in the standings. So close... a 49-day run is still extremely impressive though.
@ 2012-04-02 9:53 PM (#7076 - in reply to #7072) (#7076)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-04-02 9:53 PM

MellowMelon - 2012-04-02 10:44 AM

deu - 2012-04-01 6:05 PM

Thanks for a great test! And I submitted a wrong answer for the first time in the last puzzle!

I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that in the standings. So close... a 49-day run is still extremely impressive though.
So on last 2 days' puzzle, deu topped on one and got penalty on another. He did neither in previous 48 days :wink:
@ 2012-04-02 10:02 PM (#7077 - in reply to #7071) (#7077)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-04-02 10:02 PM

EMJ - 2012-04-02 10:29 AM

Thank you all so much! This was great fun. I will miss this - hope you'll have the willingness and energy to do this again. I loved the online solving and the mix of puzzles.
I hope the puzzles will remain online new puzzlers to tackle and for us to practice on. Is that possible? And now if you "review" a puzzle, clear, and re-solve it, you can not check your answer. Would it be possible to change that at some point?
I don't mean to be asking for so much - you all deserve a good rest. My main point in writing is just to thank you for a great time. Bravo!
Thank you very much for the kind words. At this point, we don't have any daily contests lined up. That certainly is not because of lack of motivation or willingness. It is mainly to find a proper puzzle type and an occasion. Equally importantly, we realize that there were some technical hiccups (mentioned multiple times in forum), even if they were minor. So we'll try to do better in that front next time.

Once CTC is over, you will be able to solve and check solved/unsolved puzzles.
@ 2012-04-02 10:12 PM (#7078 - in reply to #7067) (#7078)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-04-02 10:12 PM

Nilz - 2012-04-02 2:52 AM

Thanks to Serkan for the puzzles. It did go on a little too long imho, but that's probably just me feeling bitter that after a few weeks (well, days) it became clear that I had no chance of making the top 3. I would've preferred 2 separate competitions of half the length (or, perhaps, 4 fortnightly contests, with each one finishing on the date of a TVC and getting progressively more difficult...)
That is an interesting idea. We definitely hadn't imagined running CTC that way.
If I'm allowed to break it up now, and just post fortnightly scores, here is how they will look like




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@ 2012-04-03 1:03 AM (#7082 - in reply to #6622) (#7082)Quote Reply Top

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Para posted @ 2012-04-03 1:03 AM

Hmmm, I think something is wrong with the standings. I mean, I'll happily take third place, but Nyuta's and Psyho's scores of the last day weren't incorporated.
@ 2012-04-03 9:50 AM (#7088 - in reply to #6622) (#7088)Quote Reply Top

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Yokipi posted @ 2012-04-03 9:50 AM

A great test indeed! Many quality puzzles, with a surprising lack of stagnation.Rather than routine, quickly became a highlight of each day. I hope we see more like this in the future.
@ 2012-04-03 10:31 PM (#7089 - in reply to #6622) (#7089)Quote Reply Top

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Gareth posted @ 2012-04-03 10:31 PM

A big thank you for running this - I know it takes a lot of effort, but it was worth it! :)
@ 2012-04-04 2:05 AM (#7091 - in reply to #6622) (#7091)Quote Reply Top

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yureklis posted @ 2012-04-04 2:05 AM

A Tale of Two Contests:

First of all, congratulations to Palmer. He showed great performance and became the Tapa Master of 2012. In the last years, I was always wondering how Thomas solved all that puzzles in extremely short times; now I feel the same for Palmer. I didn’t make 19 puzzles to be finished. My aim was to force solvers to follow a strategy. But a guy that solves all puzzles in 66 minutes can only have one strategy: Kill ‘em all! :) Once again I congratulate him for his self-confidence and earning the title by defeating this final cruel round.

The top three of TVC 2012 are:

1. Palmer Mebane (USA),
2. Thomas Snyder (USA),
3. Hideaki Jo (JPN)

I am skipping the statistics for TVC XII :)

The file that contains all variation ideas will soon be updated. So you can still share any ideas with me.

50 days has been completed in CTC. I am as satisfied as you. It was a tiresome experience for me, Deb and Gulce. If Deb hadn’t come up with this brilliant idea and say “Let’s do a classic Tapa contest” no one would be thanking me today. At this very point I should say that I am not doing these on my own, that would be impossible. I am just a guy who makes puzzles. It is not unfamiliar for a puzzle maker to get all the credit, but Deb, Ulrich and Gulce who worked as hard as I did deserve applause. You already know Deb is dead set on this; he works round the clock for puzzles. I cannot get through so many tests without Gulce. And Ulrich was a great help with testing all TVC rounds this year. The puzzles are sometimes flawed before they are ready to be presented to you. It is really annoying to send flawed puzzles to a solver that has been world champion so many times :) I should also thank Roland, he was also a tester of the last round, in spite of his lack of time. And Ulrich stil agreed to test the puzzles even he had flu last week.

With all of the above, I bow respectfully before these people. I am just a puzzle making robot, but the puzzles shape in flesh and bones thanks to these people.

Let me mention my favorite puzzles of TVC XII: Borders (b), Compass (b), Sweeper (a) and TAPA TAPA.

CTC puzzles were made by me and Gulce. Until last night, I had no intention on publishing these puzzles after the contest is over. But I changed my mind and the reason for that was the files Palmer has been publishing in his blog. He has published two puzzle packs, containing tons of puzzles and solving tips; and I think these are amazing works. I thought about it and I decided that CTC puzzles now belong to the puzzle community, not us. The complete file will soon be available for download.

The top three of CTC are:

1. Palmer Mebane (USA),
2. Hideaki Jo (JPN),
3. Nagata Yuta (JPN)

As I stated at the very beginning, the top three solvers will receive a classic Tapa book that I prepared. The book is now being tested; maybe we can display its cover here. I will need the addresses of the top three in a few weeks. And later the book will be available for purchase at Akil Oyunlari blog: http://akil-oyunlari.livejournal.com

Our country is famous for a dessert named “Turkish delight”. It has many types; one of them is called “double roasted”, very delicious. Palmer took a “double roasted” victory by earning both titles. I congratulate and admire him.

That is all I can say for now. Thanks everyone for getting involved in what we did.

Best,

Serkan
@ 2012-04-04 8:03 AM (#7093 - in reply to #6622) (#7093)Quote Reply Top

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brianklimek posted @ 2012-04-04 8:03 AM

Thanks for all the effort for the CTC - it was a real pleasure!
@ 2012-04-04 2:07 PM (#7094 - in reply to #6622) (#7094)Quote Reply Top

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flk posted @ 2012-04-04 2:07 PM

Thanks a lot for everything Serkan, Deb, Ulrich, and Gulce. This whole event (TVC + CTC) has been fantastic and I will definitely miss the daily puzzles!
@ 2012-04-05 7:46 AM (#7099 - in reply to #6622) (#7099)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-04-05 7:46 AM

CTC Puzzles Compilation

The pdf version of all puzzles can be found here

Many thanks to Palmer for compiling.


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Administrator posted @ 2012-04-05 9:51 AM

EMJ - 2012-04-02 10:29 AM

I hope the puzzles will remain online new puzzlers to tackle and for us to practice on. Is that possible? And now if you "review" a puzzle, clear, and re-solve it, you can not check your answer. Would it be possible to change that at some point?
I don't mean to be asking for so much - you all deserve a good rest. My main point in writing is just to thank you for a great time. Bravo!

All puzzles will be available online (as long as LMI server has enough space !)

We have added a "Check Solution" button, so you can now re-solve and check if the solution is correct. Thanks once again for bringing it up.
@ 2012-04-05 10:50 AM (#7101 - in reply to #6622) (#7101)Quote Reply Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-04-05 10:50 AM

One of my aims for running a daily contest at LMI was to attract some Indian solvers into daily puzzle solving. It was achieved to some extent. I'm really happy with Prasanna's performance, who ended up at 27th overall, and notched top 3 positions few positions.

Before CTC started, I had requested Serkan if it is possible to have Tapa books for top 3 Indians, and he had very kindly agreed to the proposal.

CTCOverallToPo
Prasanna27350.726
Rohan42315.751
Swaroop63283.181

Incidentally, or otherwise, they are also the top 3 players in TVC. Congratulations.
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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-04-05 1:55 PM

debmohanty - 2012-04-05 10:50 AM

One of my aims for running a daily contest at LMI was to attract some Indian solvers into daily puzzle solving. It was achieved to some extent. I'm really happy with Prasanna's performance, who ended up at 27th overall, and notched top 3 positions few positions.


Thank you. Slightly disappointed that I couldn't finish well, but for a first time contest, I'll take that and learn from it. As for attracting the Indians, I think I remember at least 10 who participated almost everyday :) Hope they all enjoyed the experience as much as I did. Congrats to Rohan and Swaroop. A good show from Swaroop, when we were discussing at around the start of CTC we both agreed he had an "outside chance" for 3rd. In the end, his 3rd place was probably the only one among the 3 of us that was never in doubt(Rohan did cross me a couple of times before I had my top-time-strings :P ).

debmohanty - 2012-04-05 10:50 AM
Before CTC started, I had requested Serkan if it is possible to have Tapa books for top 3 Indians, and he had very kindly agreed to the proposal.


Woohoo! :D Thanks Serkan.
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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-04-05 2:44 PM

debmohanty - 2012-04-05 10:50 AM

Before CTC started, I had requested Serkan if it is possible to have Tapa books for top 3 Indians, and he had very kindly agreed to the proposal.

CTCOverallToPo
Prasanna27350.726
Rohan42315.751
Swaroop63283.181

Incidentally, or otherwise, they are also the top 3 players in TVC. Congratulations.


Thanks a lot,
This was my first TVC experience and CTC anyways was new to everyone. I have a learned a lot especially got to know lots of variations of TAPA's. It feels good to finish at 3rd position in INDIA in both TVC and CTC. Also thanks to Prasanna, who used discuss with me daily and clarify my doubts.
Hope to give tough fight next time. :)
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Administrator posted @ 2012-04-18 12:14 PM

Here is the cover for the Tapa books



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carljohan posted @ 2013-08-23 7:29 AM

Is it possible to download the puzzles in pdf format? The file seems to give me an error.