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Posts: 460 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | purifire posted @ 2010-11-03 3:30 PM Thanks Zafer... The explanation is indeed helpful :) Looking forward to the test.. Rishi |
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Posts: 460 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | purifire posted @ 2010-11-03 3:51 PM purifire - 2010-11-03 3:30 PM Thanks Zafer... The explanation is indeed helpful :) Looking forward to the test.. Rishi solved the example on LM Germany and it was really a great puzzle.. :) Rishi |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 3:52 PM Minfang Lin - 2010-11-03 3:11 PM Chinese version is available on http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/index.php?showtopic=125 if you want to play examples online, click the image of puzzle on the left. ( please use IE7/8 or Chrome) ![]() ![]() ![]() Regards, Zafer |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 4:50 PM purifire - 2010-11-03 3:51 PM solved the example on LM Germany and it was really a great puzzle.. :) Rishi Hi Rishi, ![]() ![]() puzzle during the test. Zafer |
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Posts: 739 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | vopani posted @ 2010-11-03 8:36 PM In the note for Shifted Sudoku, it says 'The numbers 1~6 must not occur in standard 2x3 boxes'. 'Must not occur' or 'May not occur'? |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-03 9:26 PM Hi Rohan, It is actually stated that "In the example numbers 1~6 is occured once inside standard 2x3 blocks. But it is not a MUST. Therefore there may be some duplicating digits inside these 2x3 standard blocks for 6x6 shifted sudoku (and 3x3 standard blocks for 9x9 shifted sudoku)". In order to clearify this note I'll try to prepare a 6x6 shifted sudoku with renban groups in which there exist duplicating digits inside 2x3 standard blocks and try to share it here soon. Regards, Zafer |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-04 2:00 AM Here comes my new 6x6 shifted sudoku design. Regards, Zafer (shiftedsudwithrbgex2.JPG) Attachments ---------------- ![]() |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-04 8:25 AM Rohan Rao - 2010-11-03 8:36 PM In the note for Shifted Sudoku, it says 'The numbers 1~6 must not occur in standard 2x3 boxes'. 'Must not occur' or 'May not occur'? Rohan, it is "May not occur". It is basically a Toroidal Sudoku with special shapes of 2X3 or 3X3 blocks. [ So it should be much easier than a toroidal sudoku ] Zafer, thanks for uploading another example. |
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Posts: 739 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | vopani posted @ 2010-11-04 11:12 AM Ok. Got it. Thanx Zafer and Deb. Looking forward to this test :-) |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-04 1:09 PM Hi to all. Here comes the answer of my second 6x6 shifted sudoku example. You can see the duplicating digit or digits inside the standard 2x3 blocks. Spoiler: show Thanks Deb for your help on spoiler usage. Regards, Zafer Edited by zhergan 2010-11-04 1:15 PM |
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Posts: 9 Country : United Kingdom | gramar posted @ 2010-11-09 2:11 AM I'm looking forward to this one and have managed to complete all the 6 x 6s in the instruction booklet apart from one - the Symmetric Unequal Sudoku. I expect I'm missing something really obvious but I can't work out which cells are 180 degrees symmetric to each other. ![]() Can anyone try and explain it to me please? Thanks. |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-09 2:36 AM Hi, In the symmetric unequal sudoku cells that are 180° symmetric to each other cannot have same digits. Keeping in mind that R corresponds to row and C corresponds to column; If we talk about 6x6 R[n]C[k] can never have the same digit as R[7-n]C[7-k] all n, k from 1 to 6 and if we consider 9x9 this time R[n]C[k] can never have the same digit as R[10-n]C[10-k] for all n, k from 1 to 9 (of course not both 5 same time). Try to apply this rule once. You'll see it works. Hope it is more clear now. Regards, Zafer |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-09 2:41 AM And who are interested about symmetric unequal sudoku may try to solve my 9x9 example on LM Germany site with the following address: http://www.logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=000... It is not a hard one also. You may try it as an exercise. Zafer |
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Posts: 9 Country : United Kingdom | gramar posted @ 2010-11-09 3:38 AM Yes - I've got it now! Thanks for taking the time to reply - I've never come across this sudoku variant before. It's always great to come across a new puzzle type so I will go and try out the 9 x 9 now! Regards. Christine |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-09 8:47 AM |
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Posts: 8 Country : India | lmunira posted @ 2010-11-09 1:11 PM Hi, I cannot see any link to the IB for the test. Is there something that I am missing? Munira. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-09 1:17 PM lmunira - 2010-11-09 1:11 PM If you are using a small screen computer, please scroll towards your right. Hi, I cannot see any link to the IB for the test. Is there something that I am missing? Munira. We are having this problem for a while now. High time we get it fixed :-) |
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Posts: 8 Country : India | lmunira posted @ 2010-11-09 1:37 PM Thanks, Have got it. Silly of me. Munira. |
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Country : Germany | Pyrrhon posted @ 2010-11-10 1:51 AM Renban is a puzzle type invented (so far as I know) by Inaba Naoki. You can find his examples at http://inabapuzzle.com/honkaku/renban.html . (All digits occur in each row and column, all cages are renban groups.) The oldest sudoku variant with renban groups is Hanidoku ( http://www.hanidoku.com/ ). Other renban at http://www.sachsentext.de/en/node/1156 and other hanidoku at http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/162 . Pyrrhon |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-10 11:55 AM Pyrrhon - 2010-11-10 1:51 AM Renban is a puzzle type invented (so far as I know) by Inaba Naoki. You can find his examples at http://inabapuzzle.com/honkaku/renban.html . (All digits occur in each row and column, all cages are renban groups.) The oldest sudoku variant with renban groups is Hanidoku ( http://www.hanidoku.com/ ). Other renban at http://www.sachsentext.de/en/node/1156 and other hanidoku at http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/162 . Pyrrhon Thank you for sharing history of Renban. I'm sure this will be informative to many players. Also, for those who don't know, Pyrrhon's website http://www.sachsentext.de contains list of many many Sudoku variants. You google for any Sudoku variant, and sachsentext.de is most likely to be in 1st page. Thanks Uwe for maintaining such a wonderful website. |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-10 2:00 PM debmohanty - 2010-11-10 11:55 AM Thank you for sharing history of Renban. I'm sure this will be informative to many players. Also, for those who don't know, Pyrrhon's website http://www.sachsentext.de contains list of many many Sudoku variants. You google for any Sudoku variant, and sachsentext.de is most likely to be in 1st page. Thanks Uwe for maintaining such a wonderful website. I also want to thank Uwe (aka Pyrrhon) for sharing information about Renban ![]() ![]() Regards, Zafer Edited by zhergan 2010-11-10 2:04 PM |
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Posts: 44 ![]() ![]() Country : United States | davmillar posted @ 2010-11-11 11:37 PM Munira (and everyone else with small screens): I think I've found a fix and have tested it out on my local copy of the authors page. Deb will be adding the fix to the test pages sometime soon, which should work for almost everyone. Sorry about the inconvenience! |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2010-11-12 1:38 PM Puzzle booklet (1 Title page + 10 pages of sudokus) is uploaded at the submission page. Here is the direct link |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-12 11:39 PM davmillar - 2010-11-11 11:37 PM Munira (and everyone else with small screens): I think I've found a fix and have tested it out on my local copy of the authors page. Deb will be adding the fix to the test pages sometime soon, which should work for almost everyone. Sorry about the inconvenience! Players with small screens - Please scroll towards right if you can't see the IB / PB. David - thanks for helping in fixing this issue. We'll apply this technique in the next test. |
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Posts: 32 ![]() Country : Turkey | zhergan posted @ 2010-11-13 3:20 AM Hi to all, The test starts within almost 2 hours. I wish all participants the very best of luck. I hope you enjoy solving the sudokus. Regards, Zafer |