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yureklis
Posts: 183
 
Country : Turkey | Yuhei Kusui - 2012-08-15 2:28 PM
So many innovative puzzles... I'm really looking forward to the actual test!
BTW, let me confirm one thing about Chained Ships; is it possible to place a ship segment on a letter?
(even if two As are covered by ship segments, the grid might be solved by connecting other letters)
Oooo cool approach : ) I like it. But no, each given lettter pair should be connected. |
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Yuhei Kusui
Posts: 42
Country : Japan | yureklis - 2012-08-15 5:17 PM
Yuhei Kusui - 2012-08-15 2:28 PM
So many innovative puzzles... I'm really looking forward to the actual test!
BTW, let me confirm one thing about Chained Ships; is it possible to place a ship segment on a letter?
(even if two As are covered by ship segments, the grid might be solved by connecting other letters)
Oooo cool approach : ) I like it. But no, each given lettter pair should be connected.
OK. Thanks :- ) |
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yureklis
Posts: 183
Country : Turkey | Some Remarks
Puzzle 1: 3rd rule of the puzzle transform to "Each area should contain exactly one number"
Puzzle 5: Write the 3 unused words , and ignore the Turkish letters when submitting answer.
Puzzle 9: Write the 3 unused words , and ignore the Turkish letters when submitting answer.
Time Bonus: I've changed the percentage (previous one %95) because of puzzle difficulty, so If a puzzler can get %90 of 1600 points (Total points), he/she will earn time bonus as 0,05 points per saved second.
Points distribution is available below.
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2012-08-17 6:08 PM When you say ignore the turkish letter, do you mean "ÇÖZÜM" becomes "ZM" or "COZUM" or something else?Any information on how many words will be used will be given,or is it part of the solve?
Edited by anurag 2012-08-17 6:10 PM
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yureklis
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Country : Turkey | anurag - 2012-08-17 6:08 PM
When you say ignore the turkish letter, do you mean "ÇÖZÜM" becomes "ZM" or "COZUM" or something else?Any information on how many words will be used will be given,or is it part of the solve?
I mean that "ÇÖZÜM" should be "COZUM" when you submit. |
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anurag
Posts: 136
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2012-08-17 7:04 PM |
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Country : India | Announcements
Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 12 pages, including a cover page. There is no points table.
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rakesh_rai
Posts: 774
Country : India | I was looking at the example for signage in IB. Can anyone share a couple of starting steps? Except the clues on the edge, where arrows obviously cannot go towards the edge, I am unable to make much of a logical headway. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | rakesh_rai - 2012-08-18 9:11 AM
I was looking at the example for signage in IB. Can anyone share a couple of starting steps? Except the clues on the edge, where arrows obviously cannot go towards the edge, I am unable to make much of a logical headway.
Since the count starts including the clue arrow itself, the 2 clues have to reach some edge within 1 arrow. e.g. The 2 clue pointing downwards at R6C4 means R7C4 will have to be an arrow pointing leftward because it has to point directly toward an edge and there's an arrow on the right. This means you can cross out all the cells to the left, and there'll be an arrow on each cell on the right. |
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rakesh_rai
Posts: 774
Country : India | prasanna16391 - 2012-08-18 10:00 AM
rakesh_rai - 2012-08-18 9:11 AM
I was looking at the example for signage in IB. Can anyone share a couple of starting steps? Except the clues on the edge, where arrows obviously cannot go towards the edge, I am unable to make much of a logical headway.
Since the count starts including the clue arrow itself, the 2 clues have to reach some edge within 1 arrow. e.g. The 2 clue pointing downwards at R6C4 means R7C4 will have to be an arrow pointing leftward because it has to point directly toward an edge and there's an arrow on the right. This means you can cross out all the cells to the left, and there'll be an arrow on each cell on the right. Thanks.
I realize my problem now. My printout was not showing any arrows. The shading of the arrows did not come out at all. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | ^
That problem didn't occur for me, during the test(I didn't take printout of the IB).
Anyways, great puzzles. I don't really like word puzzles/letter entry puzzles much, so a part of this test wasn't in my comfort zone, but I liked every puzzle I did solve. A power cut in between made certain I didn't even attempt some types I felt uncomfortable with :P So will have to try them out later.
Thanks for the test Serkan.
Edited by prasanna16391 2012-08-18 12:06 PM
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Para
Posts: 315
Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2012-08-19 1:13 AM Do I get extra points for accidentally solving the Spiral Battleships example in test time? I only noticed this when I went to enter the entry key and noticed it was the same as the example's entry key. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | Para - 2012-08-19 1:13 AM
Do I get extra points for accidentally solving the Spiral Battleships example in test time?
Only if I get extra points for solving 3 of the puzzles with the sole illumination provided by the laptop screen... I'm gonna solve under candlelight from next time. :| |
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Richard
Posts: 191
Country : The Netherlands | Richard posted @ 2012-08-19 2:44 AM Nice puzzles Serkan!
This time I solved almost all of the puzzle I had pre-selected.
Thanks a lot for a fun set with pretty innovative stuff! |
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tamz29
Posts: 225
Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2012-08-19 5:10 PM I personally thought some puzzles were under/over valued.
The two hours went so fast for me I didn't get to see some pages.
A great Serkan test as always. Thank you! |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | A puzzle test after such a long time, but performance was not that par which i expected.
Puzzles were excellent and yes i dont like word puzzles and never gave a look to it in the test :p
Anyways Thanks Serkan!! for such a wonderful test.
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rakesh_rai
Posts: 774
Country : India | Thanks Serkan for excellent puzzles and a very enjoyable test.
Like Swaroop, I also gave the word puzzles a miss. Probably we should have an exclusive test at some point for word puzzles. |
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yureklis
Posts: 183
Country : Turkey | tamz29 - 2012-08-19 5:10 PM
I personally thought some puzzles were under/over valued.
I never believe this. Because it only depends on solver ability. Some solvers can be good at math puzzles, some of them can be good at word puzzles etc. So from my side there is not any under/over valued things in tests. And I don't mean any extreme examples. For example, for this test three solvers tested all puzzles. Honestly there were some huge differences for some puzzles. So when I determine the puzzle points with considering tester times, I always use average solving times, and sometimes I interfere in this average value. But in any case I follow average solving times. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | rakesh_rai - 2012-08-19 10:01 PM
Like Swaroop, I also gave the word puzzles a miss. Probably we should have an exclusive test at some point for word puzzles.
That seems to be a common theme among the Indian participants. If you refer to my post above, the "uncomfortable" part did indeed refer to word puzzles (well, letter-entry puzzles too, but we know that weakness from the IPC don't we? ). I'd definitely have given 2-3 of them a try if I had a little more time after finishing the ones I actually did solve though.
Edited by prasanna16391 2012-08-20 1:03 AM
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motris
Posts: 199
Country : United States | motris posted @ 2012-08-20 2:42 AM Thanks for the very excellent test Serkan; almost a perfect USPC preview (if I just had 2.5 hours to finish and check everything!).
I'm glad I had almost all of the back issues (7 of 9?) to practice on these puzzle types before starting. Even those who do not win the prize should consider getting AO regularly. |
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rachitrulz
Posts: 1
Country : India | hi..
just wanted to know the exact time duration of the test, and whether it is available for online solving or do we have to take a printout? |
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PuzzleScott
Posts: 42
Country : United States | IB Sudoku Builder seems to have a solution typo. Arrows ask for R4,C5. But the given solution is for R2,R4.
When both rows and columns have solution arrows, it appears the row arrows should precede the column arrows. Is that right? |
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Country : India | PuzzleScott - 2012-08-20 11:14 AM
IB Sudoku Builder seems to have a solution typo. Arrows ask for R4,C5. But the given solution is for R2,R4. Yes. That is a typo in the IB.
PuzzleScott - 2012-08-20 11:14 AM
When both rows and columns have solution arrows, it appears the row arrows should precede the column arrows. Is that right? That is correct. But we do manual checks for each wrong submission and you will get points if the answer keys are swapped. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1801
Country : India | rachitrulz - 2012-08-20 7:07 AM
hi..
just wanted to know the exact time duration of the test, and whether it is available for online solving or do we have to take a printout?
120 minutes. Not available for online solving, you'll have to take a printout. |
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