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kiwijam
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Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2026-04-19 2:25 PM #6 Azure and Rose Journey: Can the line visit the start or end points two times? e.g. we leave the start point with an azure segment, and later we pass through this point again with a long rose segment.
#12 Azure and Rose Optimum: Same question. |
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shedarshian
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Country : China | In the first puzzle, does the "overlap" in "may intersect or overlap" means that one orthogon completely contains another? |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1999
 
Country : India | kiwijam - 2026-04-19 2:15 PM
Admin: Please make this thread non-restricted.
I think there is utility in keeping it restricted in case someone wants to verify their solution following the rules, or comment on a solve path - unrestricting individual posts is easy, just a button. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | kiwijam - 2026-04-19 2:25 PM
#6 Azure and Rose Journey: Can the line visit the start or end points two times? e.g. we leave the start point with an azure segment, and later we pass through this point again with a long rose segment.
#12 Azure and Rose Optimum: Same question.
It's not forbidden. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | shedarshian - 2026-04-19 2:29 PM
In the first puzzle, does the "overlap" in "may intersect or overlap" means that one orthogon completely contains another?
One orthogon can completely contain another. |
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professorX
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Country : India | In puzzle 3 Jigsaw with tips, in one column CN , LI both are given. Does that mean CN is seen first and then LI ?
Since CN is given on top ....
Edited by professorX 2026-04-19 4:56 PM
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professorX
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Country : India | In puzzle 7, for 0 sum in the bottom right corner, can a fully blackened cell be valid? |
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Barbitos
Posts: 12
Country : France | I+believe+the+example+for+2%2E+Crossword%2DListovert+is+non+unique%2C+there+seems+to+be+a+second+solution+where+FIFIR+and+RUBIA+are+swapped%2C+and+every+word%27s+grid+rotation+is+shifted+90%C2%B0+compared+to+the+given+solution%0D%0A%0D%0AGiven%2C+i%27m+having+a+very+hard+time+wrapping+my+head+around+the+logic+of+this+genre+and+might%27ve+missed+a+rule+that+disambiguates+this%0D%0A%0D%0A |
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mstang
Posts: 79
Country : United States | mstang posted @ 2026-04-20 4:41 AM (puzzle 4) What is meant by "loop that does not touch or intersect itself"? Is it like a Snake, where (copying from GP rules) "if two cells in the snake touch orthogonally, then they must be exactly one cell apart along the path of the snake, and if two cells in the snake touch diagonally, then they must be exactly two cells apart along the path of the snake"?
Also, there must be only one loop, right? The second to last sentence says "each circle belongs to a loop" (not "the loop").
Edited by mstang 2026-04-20 4:42 AM
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1999
Country : India | mstang - 2026-04-20 4:41 AM
(puzzle 4) What is meant by "loop that does not touch or intersect itself"? Is it like a Snake, where (copying from GP rules) "if two cells in the snake touch orthogonally, then they must be exactly one cell apart along the path of the snake, and if two cells in the snake touch diagonally, then they must be exactly two cells apart along the path of the snake"?
Also, there must be only one loop, right? The second to last sentence says "each circle belongs to a loop" (not "the loop").
Your understanding for the loop is correct, it is a snake-like loop.
'A' vs 'the' is just translation issues that I missed, only one loop. |
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prasanna16391
Posts: 1999
Country : India | professorX - 2026-04-19 7:29 PM
In puzzle 7, for 0 sum in the bottom right corner, can a fully blackened cell be valid?
Yes that's valid. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | professorX - 2026-04-19 4:55 PM
In puzzle 3 Jigsaw with tips, in one column CN , LI both are given. Does that mean CN is seen first and then LI ?
Since CN is given on top ....
It's not necessary. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | professorX - 2026-04-19 7:29 PM
In puzzle 7, for 0 sum in the bottom right corner, can a fully blackened cell be valid?
Maybe. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | %5BQUOTE%5DBarbitos+%2D+2026%2D04%2D19++9%3A22+PM%0D%0A%0D%0AI+believe+the+example+for+2%2E+Crossword%2DListovert+is+non+unique%2C+there+seems+to+be+a+second+solution+where+FIFIR+and+RUBIA+are+swapped%2C+and+every+word%27s+grid+rotation+is+shifted+90%C2%B0+compared+to+the+given+solution%0D%0A%0D%0AGiven%2C+i%27m+having+a+very+hard+time+wrapping+my+head+around+the+logic+of+this+genre+and+might%27ve+missed+a+rule+that+disambiguates+this%0D%0A%0D%0A%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0AYou+cannot+swap+FIFIR+and+RUBIA+because+the+letter+R+is+upside+down%2E%0D%0A |
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shedarshian
Posts: 2
Country : China | In puzzle #3, does a pink circle allowed to be at the intersection of two words? If allowed, how does it transfer to #4? Pick one? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | shedarshian - 2026-04-20 4:08 PM
In puzzle #3, does a pink circle allowed to be at the intersection of two words? If allowed, how does it transfer to #4? Pick one?
When transferring, select one of the two options that are suitable for you. |
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anurag
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Country : India | anurag posted @ 2026-04-20 4:38 PM 3%3a+good+questrion%2c+and+is+the+Jigsaw+puzzle+independently+unique+or+is+one+supposed+to+find+a+solution+that+works+for+the+Pentoloop%3f%0a11%3a+What+is+meant+by+this+%22Words+should+read+from+left+to+right+and+right+to+left%2c+or+top+to+bottom+and+bottom+to+top.++%22+why+are+and+and+or+used+interchangeably%3f+I+interpret+it+as+you+can+only+use+both+directions+horizontally%2c+or+only+vertically.+%0a10%3a+%22Does+not+touch+itself%22+is+not+ambiguous.+Diagonal+%3f%0aPieces+can+be+repeated%3f%0a+ |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | anurag - 2026-04-20 4:38 PM
3: good questrion, and is the Jigsaw puzzle independently unique or is one supposed to find a solution that works for the Pentoloop?
11: What is meant by this "Words should read from left to right and right to left, or top to bottom and bottom to top. " why are and and or used interchangeably? I interpret it as you can only use both directions horizontally, or only vertically.
10: "Does not touch itself" is not ambiguous. Diagonal ?
Pieces can be repeated?
3. At the very top of the page it says "solve two related puzzles".
11. Words can be read in any of the 4 directions, as in the example.
10. The standard rule for the loop: Loop does not touch or intersect itself. In the example, the V pentomino is used twice. In this sense, it is possible to repeat. But there is no third V pentomino among the 14 given pentominoes. Therefore, you cannot use the V pentomino three times. |
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Lynxie
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Country : Philippines | Lynxie posted @ 2026-04-20 6:56 PM Administrator - 2026-04-19 11:59 AM
The Puzzle Booklet is now available. Good luck to all participants! |
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anurag
Posts: 151
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2026-04-20 7:08 PM %22Two+L+or+I+pentominoes+cannot+fit+entirely+in+2+x+5+and+5+x+2+rectangles.%22+This+is+automatically+implied+by+the+immediately+preceding+statement.+So+it+should+be+removed+to+avoid+confusion |
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Barbitos
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Country : France | Riad Khanmagomedov - 2026-04-19 6:09 PM
You cannot swap FIFIR and RUBIA because the letter R is upside down.
I don't think that happens in the alternative solution.
Describing it accurately is hard, so here's a link to what it looks like: https://imgur.com/gcIZnre |
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Barbitos
Posts: 12
Country : France | anurag - 2026-04-20 2:08 AM
"Two L or I pentominoes cannot fit entirely in 2 x 5 and 5 x 2 rectangles." This is automatically implied by the immediately preceding statement. So it should be removed to avoid confusion
It is not. In the example, this rule prevents swapping the leftmost L with the bottommost I, because then the first two columns would form a 5x2 rectangle that is filled with two I pentominoes and nothing else |
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anurag
Posts: 151
Country : India | anurag posted @ 2026-04-20 9:20 PM Got+it%2c+Thanks!%0a |
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Puzlifouk
Posts: 73
Country : France | Hello everybody. Problem 6 - Azure and rose journey:
I dont understand the scheme L1 R2 L3 R1 L2 R3 L1... If letters L and R are for colours, is L for Azure (why?) and R for Rose, or is it possible to begin with Rose? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
Posts: 267
Country : Russia | Puzlifouk - 2026-04-21 2:16 AM
Hello everybody. Problem 6 - Azure and rose journey:
I dont understand the scheme L1 R2 L3 R1 L2 R3 L1... If letters L and R are for colours, is L for Azure (why?) and R for Rose, or is it possible to begin with Rose?
I first composed the text in Russian, and then connected the translator. In Russian, the word azure is written with the letter L. I should have changed the letters L to A, but it's too late. You need to start with azure, as stated in the rules. |
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