@ 2019-04-01 9:49 AM (#26823 - in reply to #26822) (#26823) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2019-04-01 9:49 AM Some notes about April Contest 2019Please note this contest will have a slightly different format than regular LMI tests.Key differences from regular LMI tests: • There is no IB (i.e. no Instructions Booklet). If you have any questions about any puzzle, please ask here. • The PB (Puzzle Booklet) does not have any password. • You can download the pdf and start solving. Login at the contest page to start submitting. • There is no time limit. You can submit until the contest ends. • There will be some optimizer puzzles. Other puzzles will be very hard (compared to regular LMI tests) • Same scores will have same rank (i.e. early submissions do not count towards rank) |
@ 2019-04-03 11:13 AM (#26827 - in reply to #26822) (#26827) Top | |
Posts: 67 Country : France | Puzlifouk posted @ 2019-04-03 11:13 AM Hello everybody, Is it good for today? I'm so impatient: I took my leave for that. |
@ 2019-04-03 4:34 PM (#26829 - in reply to #26827) (#26829) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2019-04-03 4:34 PM Puzzle BookletThe Puzzle Booklet is available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=775 You may start solving the puzzles now. The submission page shall be set up soon and will be enabled thereafter. Please watch out for an announcement here. |
@ 2019-04-03 5:18 PM (#26830 - in reply to #26822) (#26830) Top | |
Posts: 67 Country : France | Puzlifouk posted @ 2019-04-03 5:18 PM Great! |
@ 2019-04-03 11:06 PM (#26831 - in reply to #26822) (#26831) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-03 11:06 PM Ships: As it is not mentioned on the file, I assume the fragments are pulled out straight without rotation and can be put back the same way as they are. Also, the column clues consider all 10 cells and not just the 5-cell strip. |
@ 2019-04-03 11:19 PM (#26832 - in reply to #26822) (#26832) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-03 11:19 PM Distyle: these puzzles usually do not allow 2x2 squares of shaded cells (except paint by number). What about this one? There is no mention. Solving the example does not help deuce the rule either way as it can be solved uniquely without having to consider 2x2 squares. Edited by anurag 2019-04-03 11:31 PM |
@ 2019-04-04 5:01 AM (#26833 - in reply to #26822) (#26833) Top | |
Posts: 187 Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2019-04-04 5:01 AM Pentocolour: 1) Can a black pentomino diagonally touch an orange pentomino with the same letter? 2) Please explain how to calculate K. In mathematics, two different-sized squares are 'similar'. Is this the count of different white shapes (different after rotation and reflection)? So if I have a horizontal white domino and a vertical white domino, then K=1? |
@ 2019-04-04 2:09 PM (#26834 - in reply to #26827) (#26834) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-04 2:09 PM Puzlifouk - 2019-04-03 11:13 AM Hello everybody, Is it good for today? I'm so impatient: I took my leave for that. I wish you success! |
@ 2019-04-04 2:10 PM (#26835 - in reply to #26831) (#26835) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-04 2:10 PM anurag - 2019-04-03 11:06 PM Ships: As it is not mentioned on the file, I assume the fragments are pulled out straight without rotation and can be put back the same way as they are. Also, the column clues consider all 10 cells and not just the 5-cell strip. Ships can be rotated. The column clues consider all 10 cells. |
@ 2019-04-04 2:10 PM (#26836 - in reply to #26832) (#26836) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-04 2:10 PM anurag - 2019-04-03 11:19 PM Distyle: these puzzles usually do not allow 2x2 squares of shaded cells (except paint by number). What about this one? There is no mention. Solving the example does not help deuce the rule either way as it can be solved uniquely without having to consider 2x2 squares. The 2 x 2 squares can be shaded. |
@ 2019-04-04 2:11 PM (#26837 - in reply to #26833) (#26837) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-04 2:11 PM kiwijam - 2019-04-04 5:01 AM Pentocolour: 1) Can a black pentomino diagonally touch an orange pentomino with the same letter? 2) Please explain how to calculate K. In mathematics, two different-sized squares are 'similar'. Is this the count of different white shapes (different after rotation and reflection)? So if I have a horizontal white domino and a vertical white domino, then K=1? 1) No. 2) If there are several white dominoes in the grid, then K=1. If several different white triminoes, then K=2. White square 1 x 1 and white square 2 x 2 - different shapes, K=2. If you still have doubts about the translation, I am ready to comment. |
@ 2019-04-04 2:20 PM (#26838 - in reply to #26822) (#26838) Top | |
Posts: 1 Country : France | Léotte posted @ 2019-04-04 2:20 PM At the levers : can you check for the solution? I may be mistaken (of course!), but I really see no solution here :/ |
@ 2019-04-04 2:54 PM (#26839 - in reply to #26835) (#26839) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-04 2:54 PM No, not ships. I was asking about the 5x10 fragments. But nevermind, I solved it. It was fun. |
@ 2019-04-04 9:22 PM (#26840 - in reply to #26839) (#26840) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2019-04-04 9:22 PM Submission pageThe Submission page is now ready: http://logicmastersindia.com/2019/04Contest/ You can submit your answer keys now. There is no instant grading in this test. (Potential) Results link shows possible points based on submissions, even if incorrect. Some of the answer keys (mainly for Optimizers) may show red validation messages. They can be ignored if you think your answer key is right. Submissions should be completed by 10th April midnight (Moscow time). |
@ 2019-04-04 10:05 PM (#26841 - in reply to #26822) (#26841) Top | |
Posts: 67 Country : France | Puzlifouk posted @ 2019-04-04 10:05 PM A remark about Magic Tapa : because we always have R>=r and C>=c, minimizing (|R-r|-r + |C-c|-c) is always exactly the same thing than minimizing (R-2r+C-2c). Right? |
@ 2019-04-04 11:47 PM (#26842 - in reply to #26841) (#26842) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-04 11:47 PM ROFL.. you are right. That's a print error. Perhaps it was intended like this: the closing pipe comes after the third 'r'. |R-r-r| + C-c-c| |
@ 2019-04-05 3:47 AM (#26843 - in reply to #26822) (#26843) Top | |
Posts: 187 Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2019-04-05 3:47 AM At The Levers: Does the small example have two solutions? When I put "3-3" on the diagonal lever it also works, or is this not allowed? |
@ 2019-04-05 9:32 AM (#26844 - in reply to #26841) (#26844) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-05 9:32 AM It appears the objective here is to maximize the row min and column min, as also indicated by the revealing title. Maximize (r+c) could be a simpler scoring formula. |
@ 2019-04-05 1:07 PM (#26845 - in reply to #26843) (#26845) Top | |
Posts: 11 Country : France | L00ping007 posted @ 2019-04-05 1:07 PM kiwijam - 2019-04-04 11:47 PM At The Levers: Does the small example have two solutions? When I put "3-3" on the diagonal lever it also works, or is this not allowed? I agree, the 2 solutions work for me Léotte - 2019-04-04 10:20 AM At the levers : can you check for the solution? I may be mistaken (of course!), but I really see no solution here :/ Same for me ... My step by step logic way leads to a dead end Do we miss something here ? |
@ 2019-04-05 2:10 PM (#26846 - in reply to #26838) (#26846) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-05 2:10 PM Léotte - 2019-04-04 2:20 PM At the levers : can you check for the solution? I may be mistaken (of course!), but I really see no solution here :/ 4 testers solved this puzzle. |
@ 2019-04-05 2:11 PM (#26847 - in reply to #26841) (#26847) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-05 2:11 PM Puzlifouk - 2019-04-04 10:05 PM A remark about Magic Tapa : because we always have R>=r and C>=c, minimizing (|R-r|-r + |C-c|-c) is always exactly the same thing than minimizing (R-2r+C-2c). Right? Convert the expression as you like. |
@ 2019-04-05 2:11 PM (#26848 - in reply to #26842) (#26848) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-05 2:11 PM anurag - 2019-04-04 11:47 PM ROFL.. you are right. That's a print error. Perhaps it was intended like this: the closing pipe comes after the third 'r'. |R-r-r| + C-c-c| There is no printer error. Some of the puzzles I've made in 2015 and corrected in 2019. I modified the problem, but the expression is correct. |
@ 2019-04-05 2:12 PM (#26849 - in reply to #26843) (#26849) Top | |
Posts: 234 Country : Russia | Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2019-04-05 2:12 PM kiwijam - 2019-04-05 3:47 AM At The Levers: Does the small example have two solutions? When I put "3-3" on the diagonal lever it also works, or is this not allowed? Thanks for the comment, I'll correct the example. |
@ 2019-04-05 2:38 PM (#26850 - in reply to #26848) (#26850) Top | |
Posts: 136 Country : India | anurag posted @ 2019-04-05 2:38 PM Strange. Are you saying sub-zero scores are valid and considered as more rewarding than a score of 0? |
@ 2019-04-05 3:13 PM (#26851 - in reply to #26822) (#26851) Top | |
Posts: 187 Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2019-04-05 3:13 PM Anurag, please show respect to Riad, I'm much enjoying the effort he has done for this competition. I think the Magic Tapa expression is clear and makes sense as it is (range minus minimum). As he says, you can maximize whatever you like but the final scores will be based on the official expression. And yes, a score of -1 would be better than a score of 0 if you can achieve that. If there are other negative scores then the most negative score would be the best. |