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@ 2023-08-05 7:00 PM (#31884 - in reply to #31730) (#31884) Top

swaroop2011




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swaroop2011 posted @ 2023-08-05 7:00 PM

Realshaggy - 2023-07-01 5:53 AMJust from trying the first few puzzles, one of the ways to mess up is by defining the wrong "default tool" that is used when you first open the puzzle in Penpa_PLUS_. If you use Penpa_PLUS_ a lot, you know what to do to fix that, but it's still a bit annoying, if you know there would have been a better option. And new users might throw the towel here already, if it is impossible to solve the puzzle with the tool that is given them on default. Don't know what your target audience is, but you probably want to put the bar for accessibility as low as possible. Just an example (without wanting to blame him, just so you know that I mean): Sams Slitherlink uses coloring as the default tool when it is opened and I think I have seen three more puzzles by now that felt wrong. But I also have no idea how to "guide" the setter to set up the best available tool as default.
Penpa is now updated with added additional checks. Now while submitting the puzzle, it will cross-check the default solver mode with the answer check option. If there is a mismatch, it will throw a message and ask the author to fix it. We just updated the Penpa along with some other new features. This should hopefully resolve the starting solver mode issues on puzzles moving forward. Of course, if there is something I missed, let us know and we will try to address it.
@ 2023-08-06 2:22 PM (#31887 - in reply to #31709) (#31887) Top

bakpao



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bakpao posted @ 2023-08-06 2:22 PM

Small point of feedback, it would be nice if a puzzle image is no longer hidden on the puzzle's Summary page when it is marked as 'Solved Elsewhere'
@ 2023-08-07 6:08 AM (#31890 - in reply to #31887) (#31890) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-07 6:08 AM

bakpao - 2023-08-06 2:22 PM

Small point of feedback, it would be nice if a puzzle image is no longer hidden on the puzzle's Summary page when it is marked as 'Solved Elsewhere'
Good point. Done.
@ 2023-08-07 4:28 PM (#31897 - in reply to #31709) (#31897) Top

dipa



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dipa posted @ 2023-08-07 4:28 PM

Thank you
@ 2023-08-14 12:38 AM (#31924 - in reply to #31709) (#31924) Top

Menderbug



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Menderbug posted @ 2023-08-14 12:38 AM

Could the "solved elsewhere" option also be enabled for non-exclusive puzzles? Sometimes that label might be applied erroneously, or I might have test solved the puzzle for the author.
@ 2023-08-15 7:39 AM (#31926 - in reply to #31709) (#31926) Top

Soni



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Soni posted @ 2023-08-15 7:39 AM

Right now the only way to see replays is if you have solved the puzzle already, which makes it pretty much redundant for the purposes of learning. There should be a "Give up" button (obviously framed nicer) that basically accepts that your timing will not be counted or "officially recorded". But then you can see others' replays and such, and actually complete the puzzle

Edited by Soni 2023-08-15 7:45 AM
@ 2023-08-15 8:29 AM (#31927 - in reply to #31709) (#31927) Top

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dohz posted @ 2023-08-15 8:29 AM

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@ 2023-08-15 11:46 AM (#31928 - in reply to #31926) (#31928) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-15 11:46 AM

Soni - 2023-08-15 7:39 AM

Right now the only way to see replays is if you have solved the puzzle already, which makes it pretty much redundant for the purposes of learning. There should be a "Give up" button (obviously framed nicer) that basically accepts that your timing will not be counted or "officially recorded". But then you can see others' replays and such, and actually complete the puzzle
The "give up" period is set to 24 hours. That means, 24 hours after you start a puzzle, you will be able to see the replay independent of whether you have solved it or not.
May be we should reduce the "give up" period? Thoughts?
@ 2023-08-16 6:24 AM (#31932 - in reply to #31927) (#31932) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-16 6:24 AM

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@ 2023-08-16 9:52 AM (#31933 - in reply to #31928) (#31933) Top

Soni



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Soni posted @ 2023-08-16 9:52 AM

Administrator - 2023-08-15 11:46 AM

Soni - 2023-08-15 7:39 AM

Right now the only way to see replays is if you have solved the puzzle already, which makes it pretty much redundant for the purposes of learning. There should be a "Give up" button (obviously framed nicer) that basically accepts that your timing will not be counted or "officially recorded". But then you can see others' replays and such, and actually complete the puzzle
The "give up" period is set to 24 hours. That means, 24 hours after you start a puzzle, you will be able to see the replay independent of whether you have solved it or not.
May be we should reduce the "give up" period? Thoughts?


I think the "give up period" should be a button instead of a fixed time period. Virtually nobody I know would fail to solve a puzzle AND go back to see a replay 24h later. But everyone's general thresholds for "How much time do I solve this before I need to see a solution" would be different. It's easier to have a button so people have the choice to see replays early.

Maybe if the concern is competitiveness, the period could have a fixed minimum? Maybe like the button is disabled for the first 30m-60m after which you can press it anytime you want?
@ 2023-08-17 9:53 AM (#31938 - in reply to #31933) (#31938) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-17 9:53 AM

Soni - 2023-08-16 9:52 AM
I think the "give up period" should be a button instead of a fixed time period. Virtually nobody I know would fail to solve a puzzle AND go back to see a replay 24h later. But everyone's general thresholds for "How much time do I solve this before I need to see a solution" would be different. It's easier to have a button so people have the choice to see replays early.
Maybe if the concern is competitiveness, the period could have a fixed minimum? Maybe like the button is disabled for the first 30m-60m after which you can press it anytime you want?
Thank you for your suggestion. We have added "Need help? View Replays" button which will be enabled 30 minutes after you start solving a puzzle. Upon confirming, you will be able to view replays. Even after clicking the button, you can continue to solve and submit the puzzle, but timing will not be displayed.
@ 2023-08-22 4:22 AM (#31947 - in reply to #31924) (#31947) Top

Menderbug



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Menderbug posted @ 2023-08-22 4:22 AM

Menderbug - 2023-08-14 12:38 AM

Could the "solved elsewhere" option also be enabled for non-exclusive puzzles? Sometimes that label might be applied erroneously, or I might have test solved the puzzle for the author.
Just wanted to check that this didn't slip through the cracks. :)

Edited by Menderbug 2023-08-22 4:22 AM
@ 2023-08-22 6:21 AM (#31948 - in reply to #31947) (#31948) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-22 6:21 AM

Menderbug - 2023-08-22 4:22 AM

Menderbug - 2023-08-14 12:38 AM

Could the "solved elsewhere" option also be enabled for non-exclusive puzzles? Sometimes that label might be applied erroneously, or I might have test solved the puzzle for the author.
Just wanted to check that this didn't slip through the cracks. :)
It did slip under the radar, apologies for that.
For puzzles marked erroneously as "Exclusive", we encourage players to report it, so that we can fix it from the backend, if the author misses to. It certainly is a bigger problem and should be dealt separately.
Agree that there is no mechanism today for test-solved puzzles, unless you are using Expo's test solving link. We highly recommend that authors share the test solver's link, but we agree that it is not always possible. We can explore how to solve this problem, but can you also share the outcome you expect after clicking on this option? (e.g. able to rate the puzzles / view Replays OR Not showing up in "Unsolved List" OR the Most active players stats etc)? Please let us know.
@ 2023-08-22 6:50 PM (#31949 - in reply to #31709) (#31949) Top

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Menderbug posted @ 2023-08-22 6:50 PM

I personally don't care too much whether I'd be able to vote in this situation, but it might be nice. Seeing replays, removing it from "unsolved" and adding it to the parenthesised number in player stats would be good. I mostly don't want to have to solve it again (especially with a non-representative time that an admin would have to remove).
@ 2023-08-25 7:45 AM (#31956 - in reply to #31949) (#31956) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-25 7:45 AM

Menderbug - 2023-08-22 6:50 PM

I personally don't care too much whether I'd be able to vote in this situation, but it might be nice. Seeing replays, removing it from "unsolved" and adding it to the parenthesised number in player stats would be good. I mostly don't want to have to solve it again (especially with a non-representative time that an admin would have to remove).
Done!
@ 2023-08-28 11:12 PM (#31964 - in reply to #31709) (#31964) Top

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amedayke posted @ 2023-08-28 11:12 PM

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@ 2023-08-28 11:13 PM (#31965 - in reply to #31709) (#31965) Top

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amedayke posted @ 2023-08-28 11:13 PM

Hello. There better be an option to stop at the Puzzle Expo. Just like on the gmpuzzles site. Because when I leave the question halfway, when I return to the question later, the time does not pick up where it left off. 47 min also shows the question I solved as 7 hours.
@ 2023-08-29 6:22 PM (#31967 - in reply to #31709) (#31967) Top

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Gotroch posted @ 2023-08-29 6:22 PM

I usually solve with Number - Candidates mode. Replays doesn't show candidates at all. During solving I enter few candidates in a cell, but in replay only big digit is shown at that cell.

Edited by Gotroch 2023-08-29 6:23 PM
@ 2023-08-29 9:36 PM (#31968 - in reply to #31965) (#31968) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-08-29 9:36 PM

amedayke - 2023-08-28 11:13 PM

Hello. There better be an option to stop at the Puzzle Expo. Just like on the gmpuzzles site. Because when I leave the question halfway, when I return to the question later, the time does not pick up where it left off. 47 min also shows the question I solved as 7 hours.
This is the designed implementation at the moment. We are not planning to revise it, for now.
@ 2023-08-29 9:36 PM (#31969 - in reply to #31967) (#31969) Top

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Gotroch - 2023-08-29 6:22 PM

I usually solve with Number - Candidates mode. Replays doesn't show candidates at all. During solving I enter few candidates in a cell, but in replay only big digit is shown at that cell.
we will have this debugged.
@ 2023-10-13 1:19 AM (#32043 - in reply to #31709) (#32043) Top

bluerobin



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bluerobin posted @ 2023-10-13 1:19 AM

I'm very very new on the site, and I'm finding it very difficult to understand the controls on the puzzles. Spending too much time on the controls increases the puzzle time even though I didn't do that. Can there be a tutorial version for first timers to understand the controls?
@ 2023-11-06 4:18 PM (#32094 - in reply to #31709) (#32094) Top

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Realshaggy posted @ 2023-11-06 4:18 PM

In any list, ordering the puzzles by using the "size" column does weird things. My guess is, the ordering is alphanumerical using the string in the size column. Probably the number of cells should be used.
@ 2023-11-14 7:19 AM (#32103 - in reply to #32094) (#32103) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2023-11-14 7:19 AM

Realshaggy - 2023-11-06 4:18 PM

In any list, ordering the puzzles by using the "size" column does weird things. My guess is, the ordering is alphanumerical using the string in the size column. Probably the number of cells should be used.
Fixed this. Ordering is now based on "Number of Cells".
@ 2023-11-22 10:13 PM (#32112 - in reply to #31709) (#32112) Top

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Realshaggy posted @ 2023-11-22 10:13 PM

Thank you, but can you please check again? It's working for the full list of puzzles now (as you can access it via the "recently published" button on the main site), but as soon as I'm setting any kind of filter (like excluding my solved puzzles or anything else), I'm still not able to order it by size.
@ 2023-12-14 10:28 PM (#32176 - in reply to #31709) (#32176) Top

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RBK posted @ 2023-12-14 10:28 PM

Where can I register or get updates about the next contest
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