@ 2016-01-03 2:03 AM (#20488 - in reply to #20392) (#20488) TopPosts: 69
Country : Germany
Realshaggy posted @ 2016-01-03 2:03 AM
Nice puzzles. Imho it should be clarified, that there may not be 0-clues in Magic Tapa, since this would cause non-uniqueness in the lower left corner.
@ 2016-01-03 2:27 AM (#20489 - in reply to #20392) (#20489) TopPosts: 28
Country : United Kingdom
puzzlemad posted @ 2016-01-03 2:27 AM
Thank you very much for these. It would help if I noticed things like the size of the area for the Tapa with Borders. The Florian theme was lovely - as TiiT says, I was thinking of him too whilst solving - in particular of the 24hr competitions.
@ 2016-01-03 12:26 PM (#20493 - in reply to #20392) (#20493) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-03 12:26 PM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint |
The fact that each puzzle's key has the letters ABC makes it very easy to enter the answer into the wrong puzzle. I did this several times before correcting them (in the end they were all right). But having them be "ABC" "DEF"etc would be helpful.
Also it would be nice if the points were listed in the IB. Not in the first version, but in the final version.
Thanks!
@ 2016-01-03 6:41 PM (#20495 - in reply to #20392) (#20495) TopPosts: 315
Country : The Netherlands
Para posted @ 2016-01-03 6:41 PM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Wooo. Full 0.2 points of bonus. Got stuck on the last Tapa Magic because I can't count to 2 (kept colouring 3 around a cell). When I saw my mistake I somehow managed to solve it and enter it just within the time limit in the last minute.
Fun set. Will have to get back to the second Skyscraper to figure out a bit more of the logic.
@ 2016-01-03 10:01 PM (#20496 - in reply to #20392) (#20496) TopPosts: 7
Country : Bulgaria
Deyan posted @ 2016-01-03 10:01 PM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint |
The last puzzle allows a double solution (although with the same answer)
It's good to avoid unnecessary graphics in booklets, which slow down printing
@ 2016-01-03 11:04 PM (#20497 - in reply to #20496) (#20497) TopPosts: 102
Country : United States
ghirsch posted @ 2016-01-03 11:04 PM
Deyan - 2016-01-02 11:01 PM
The last puzzle allows a double solution (although with the same answer)
It's good to avoid unnecessary graphics in booklets, which slow down printing
The last puzzle allows a double solution (although with the same answer)
It's good to avoid unnecessary graphics in booklets, which slow down printing
You should check again, I'm confident that it has only one solution. Maybe your alternate solution has some rows with repeated digits.
@ 2016-01-03 11:18 PM (#20498 - in reply to #20488) (#20498) TopPosts: 183
Country : Turkey
yureklis posted @ 2016-01-03 11:18 PM
Realshaggy - 2016-01-03 2:03 AM
Nice puzzles. Imho it should be clarified, that there may not be 0-clues in Magic Tapa, since this would cause non-uniqueness in the lower left corner.
Nice puzzles. Imho it should be clarified, that there may not be 0-clues in Magic Tapa, since this would cause non-uniqueness in the lower left corner.
Zero is not Classic Tapa clue. Tapa clues are from 1 to 8. If the zero is used in a varition we mention in the instruction. Moreover if the zero had been used in this variation, you would use the zero in clue cells with slash like 0/3, 0/1, 0/4. So it means there are tons of solutions. So you cannot use the zero in regular Tapa unless the instruction says 0-8 digits .
@ 2016-01-04 12:43 AM (#20499 - in reply to #20392) (#20499) TopPosts: 49
Country : France
Kithyane posted @ 2016-01-04 12:43 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Just started playing here at LMI for a few weeks (also working the backlog since 2010 on my free time), and for now the puzzles are really excellent.
I haven't played a lot of tapa puzzles before, but it is a puzzle type I really like, and I look forward to do more !
@ 2016-01-04 12:57 AM (#20500 - in reply to #20498) (#20500) TopPosts: 241
Country : Indonesia
chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-01-04 12:57 AM
yureklis - 2016-01-04 2:18 AM
Zero is not Classic Tapa clue. Tapa clues are from 1 to 8. If the zero is used in a varition we mention in the instruction. Moreover if the zero had been used in this variation, you would use the zero in clue cells with slash like 0/3, 0/1, 0/4. So it means there are tons of solutions. So you cannot use the zero in regular Tapa unless the instruction says 0-8 digits .
Realshaggy - 2016-01-03 2:03 AM
Nice puzzles. Imho it should be clarified, that there may not be 0-clues in Magic Tapa, since this would cause non-uniqueness in the lower left corner.
Nice puzzles. Imho it should be clarified, that there may not be 0-clues in Magic Tapa, since this would cause non-uniqueness in the lower left corner.
Zero is not Classic Tapa clue. Tapa clues are from 1 to 8. If the zero is used in a varition we mention in the instruction. Moreover if the zero had been used in this variation, you would use the zero in clue cells with slash like 0/3, 0/1, 0/4. So it means there are tons of solutions. So you cannot use the zero in regular Tapa unless the instruction says 0-8 digits .
A single zero is a Classic Tapa clue. (0/1, 0/2, etc isn't a Classic Tapa clue, but a single 0 is.) Otherwise, how would you explain the existence of Classic Tapa puzzles that involve a 0 (indicating all squares around it are empty)?
Edited by chaotic_iak 2016-01-04 12:57 AM
@ 2016-01-04 1:24 AM (#20501 - in reply to #20392) (#20501) TopPosts: 170
Country : Germany
rob posted @ 2016-01-04 1:24 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
Thanks, really good to have a new TVC series. The dedication is great way to keep Florian remembered.
I felt like I had a slow start, though the points per time don't really reflect that. One oversight on the harder skyscrapers meant I solved that one twice, but no trouble otherwise. I should revisit the star battle, the option I chose towards the end went through. The outside tapa also seemed a bit overvalued to me.
For less experienced solvers, it would be helpful to be a bit more explicit in the instructions about details like those 0s in the magic tapa, it's just very hard to tell if you haven't solved the example carefully. By the way, the base "tapa rule" at the start of the booklet makes no mention of a digit range 1-8.
@ 2016-01-04 2:20 AM (#20502 - in reply to #20392) (#20502) TopPosts: 28
Country : United Kingdom
puzzlemad posted @ 2016-01-04 2:20 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
I've now solved most of the puzzles - just the skyscrapers ones left. I was surprised how easy I found the Outside Tapa (for the points) - I should have tried that one in the test. Thanks again.
@ 2016-01-04 2:26 AM (#20503 - in reply to #20392) (#20503) TopPosts: 225
Country : Thailand
tamz29 posted @ 2016-01-04 2:26 AM
I made the effort to practise for this using Bram's puzzles. His puzzles were frighteningly difficult, but if it weren't for those,
I wouldn't have grasped so many Tapa concepts doing this test.
In general, I feel Tapa is heavily intuitive and to score well in these sprint tests, you're better off "guessing" your path.
All the puzzles are so neat. Make Room for Tapa was lovely because it had enough clear logical deductions to discourage guessing from early on.
Tapa Magic was cool, but sadly this type might be quickly worn out after, say, 10 puzzles.
I was on intense mode for the entire 80 minutes and I still have two big puzzles left.
How on earth are you guys so good at this!? ;
I wouldn't have grasped so many Tapa concepts doing this test.
In general, I feel Tapa is heavily intuitive and to score well in these sprint tests, you're better off "guessing" your path.
All the puzzles are so neat. Make Room for Tapa was lovely because it had enough clear logical deductions to discourage guessing from early on.
Tapa Magic was cool, but sadly this type might be quickly worn out after, say, 10 puzzles.
I was on intense mode for the entire 80 minutes and I still have two big puzzles left.
How on earth are you guys so good at this!? ;
@ 2016-01-04 2:45 AM (#20504 - in reply to #20392) (#20504) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-04 2:45 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2016-01-04 8:14 AM (#20506 - in reply to #20392) (#20506) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-04 8:14 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2016-01-04 10:24 AM (#20507 - in reply to #20503) (#20507) TopPosts: 315
Country : The Netherlands
Para posted @ 2016-01-04 10:24 AM
tamz29 - 2016-01-04 2:26 AM
I made the effort to practise for this using Bram's puzzles. His puzzles were frighteningly difficult, but if it weren't for those,
I wouldn't have grasped so many Tapa concepts doing this test.
I made the effort to practise for this using Bram's puzzles. His puzzles were frighteningly difficult, but if it weren't for those,
I wouldn't have grasped so many Tapa concepts doing this test.
My goal is always to put at least something in each practise puzzle that might be useful when doing the test puzzles. So that means that they might seem more difficult as there will be some deduction in there you might not be familiar with yet. But once you're aware of that logic, doing the next puzzle might seem easier as you no longer have to work out such deductions.
@ 2016-01-04 2:38 PM (#20508 - in reply to #20497) (#20508) TopPosts: 7
Country : Bulgaria
Deyan posted @ 2016-01-04 2:38 PM
ghirsch - 2016-01-03 7:04 PM
You should check again, I'm confident that it has only one solution. Maybe your alternate solution has some rows with repeated digits.
Deyan - 2016-01-02 11:01 PM
The last puzzle allows a double solution (although with the same answer)
It's good to avoid unnecessary graphics in booklets, which slow down printing
The last puzzle allows a double solution (although with the same answer)
It's good to avoid unnecessary graphics in booklets, which slow down printing
You should check again, I'm confident that it has only one solution. Maybe your alternate solution has some rows with repeated digits.
Bottom left clue might be 0 or 1.
@ 2016-01-04 2:56 PM (#20509 - in reply to #20392) (#20509) TopPosts: 66
Country : Hungary
Valezius posted @ 2016-01-04 2:56 PM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2016-01-04 3:12 PM (#20510 - in reply to #20392) (#20510) TopPosts: 3
Country : Romania
dahunor posted @ 2016-01-04 3:12 PM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | A bit skewed | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Way too many puzzles (too little time) | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2016-01-05 2:05 AM (#20515 - in reply to #20392) (#20515) TopAn LMI player
An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-05 2:05 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | I have a different complaint |
@ 2016-01-05 3:13 AM (#20516 - in reply to #20392) (#20516) TopPosts: 187
Country : New Zealand
kiwijam posted @ 2016-01-05 3:13 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Fairly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | Just right | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
I know TVC has been running a long time already, but perhaps adding one (easy?) Classic Tapa at the start might be nice for novice solvers?
@ 2016-01-05 4:09 AM (#20517 - in reply to #20516) (#20517) TopPosts: 241
Country : Indonesia
chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-01-05 4:09 AM
kiwijam - 2016-01-05 6:13 AM
I know TVC has been running a long time already, but perhaps adding one (easy?) Classic Tapa at the start might be nice for novice solvers?
I know TVC has been running a long time already, but perhaps adding one (easy?) Classic Tapa at the start might be nice for novice solvers?
I would assume Classic Tapa is covered by CTC (that is ongoing concurrently), so novice solvers that want to try Classic Tapa first can do CTC for one day before starting.
@ 2016-01-05 4:23 AM (#20518 - in reply to #20392) (#20518) TopPosts: 7
Country : United States
easonrevant posted @ 2016-01-05 4:23 AM
| How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? | Perfectly balanced | |
| What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | A bit hard | |
| What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | |
| How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? | A bit too many puzzles | |
| Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | |
| What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right |
@ 2016-01-05 5:29 AM (#20519 - in reply to #20392) (#20519) TopPosts: 9
Country : United States
Jacoblance posted @ 2016-01-05 5:29 AM
Hmm... If these are going to be every other weekend, then TVC XVIII will fall on Mystery Hunt weekend. I'd think there is a reasonable overlap between those two sets of puzzlers, so perhaps that one could start earlier, or its deadline be extended until later?
@ 2016-01-05 7:03 AM (#20520 - in reply to #20392) (#20520) TopPosts: 30
Country : United States
brecher92 posted @ 2016-01-05 7:03 AM
I'm just glad to have the best-three-of-four rule here, since my printer had a massive paper jam and I couldn't even get started...
p.s. I assume that my 0 will not be factored into the puzzle ratings?
p.s. I assume that my 0 will not be factored into the puzzle ratings?
@ 2016-01-05 8:50 AM (#20521 - in reply to #20392) (#20521) Top
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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-05 8:50 AM