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tamz29
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-16 6:45 PM (#29949 - in reply to #29948) (#29949)Quote Reply Top




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blivet - 2021-11-16 6:38 PM

Sailing:

Could the solution to the example be a rectangle, i.e. could the line visit row 2 column 4 instead of row 3 column 3? If not, why?


This is a very good question and is precisely why we added "If the loop cannot travel in the wind’s direction upon entering a cell in which the wind blows (such as it results in the loop hitting the edge of the grid, or a black cell), it may not enter that cell" to the new version of the IB (see download link above).

In the example, if the loop travels down from R2C4 to R3C4 it would be hit by the wind and will not be able to travel in the wind's direction as it will crash to the edge of the grid.
Hope this helps.
blivet
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-16 7:05 PM (#29950 - in reply to #29949) (#29950)Quote Reply Top




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Great, thanks. I saw the addition, but somehow still thought that the wind was only in the cell next to the arrow.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-16 8:18 PM (#29952 - in reply to #29698) (#29952)Quote Reply Top


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The 16th Time Trial, Gymnastics, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T16
spelvin
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:13 AM (#29954 - in reply to #29932) (#29954)Quote Reply Top




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tamz29 - 2021-11-16 2:40 AM

spelvin - 2021-11-16 5:05 AM

Feature request: After the Time Trials are all over, will it be possible to post a single PDF with all of them together? I'm prioritizing the other rounds while they count, and I hope to be able to solve the TT later without having to print out 27 separate files...


We hope this can be done, but please understand that it will be near the bottom of a list of things that needs to get done.
If some time passes and this hasn't been completed, I can personally forward the files to you later.
Thank you kindly for the interest.


That's very kind of you! And even posting a ZIP file of the separate PDFs (which is probably as simple as sending them to me directly and benefits more people) would be great. I'm just hoping not to have to visit all the pages separately.

Thank you all for your hard work! The puzzle quality on everything I've encountered so far has been tremendous.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:18 AM (#29955 - in reply to #29698) (#29955)Quote Reply Top


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The 17th Time Trial, Aquatics, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T17
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 8:17 AM (#29957 - in reply to #29698) (#29957)Quote Reply Top


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The 18th Time Trial, Equestrian, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T18
ghirsch
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:25 PM (#29966 - in reply to #29698) (#29966)Quote Reply Top




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It looks like the puzzle booklet still has not been uploaded for Rowing, which opens in a few minutes.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:27 PM (#29967 - in reply to #29698) (#29967)Quote Reply Top


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Its up now
https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T19
ndimov
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:41 PM (#29969 - in reply to #29698) (#29969)Quote Reply Top




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On Rowing, my answer key was highlighted in red and I had to use the "Submit All" button for it to work. Is this normal? I was confused for a solid minute or two about what I had done wrong.
kheti
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:55 PM (#29970 - in reply to #29698) (#29970)Quote Reply Top




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I also faced the same issue. The Instruction booklet shows the Answer Key with comma-separated co-ordinates but the submission page expects the answers the co-ordinates with no spaces or any other separators. That's what was causing the issue. I found it after experimenting with the submissions.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 2:59 PM (#29971 - in reply to #29698) (#29971)Quote Reply Top


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There are commas in the IB only to separate the multiple keys to show how they work. We never have commas in the submission page. We will remove your penalties later, other than that something to remember.
kheti
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 3:05 PM (#29972 - in reply to #29698) (#29972)Quote Reply Top




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That's okay. I don't mind the penalties. My submissions with the commas were wrong anyways for one of the co-ordinates. But the red highlight definitely threw me off a bit.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 3:07 PM (#29973 - in reply to #29698) (#29973)Quote Reply Top


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Ya by remove penalties it means if we see any correct submissions with the wrong format we will resolve those.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-17 8:13 PM (#29990 - in reply to #29698) (#29990)Quote Reply Top


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The 20th Time Trial, Sailing, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T20
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 1:05 AM (#30001 - in reply to #29698) (#30001)Quote Reply Top


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Time Trials Part 3 IB


The Time Trials part 3 Instruction Booklet is available on the landing page. Here is a quick link - https://www.worldpuzzle.org/files/106/timetrials%20part%20three%20IB...
Note that there is a new schedule for the last 11 Time Trials. Mainly, after TT23 there is now a 12 hour gap, and everything else continues every 6 hours from there. The IB has the schedule. Also note that on the landing page, Time Trials 23-33 are currently collapsed by default and can be clicked on to expand. We will switch this with 12-22 when the 22nd one is over.

The new timings are updated on both the landing page as well as the Progress page.


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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 2:18 AM (#30002 - in reply to #29698) (#30002)Quote Reply Top


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The 21st Time Trial, Weightlifting, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T21
Timjamiller
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 5:27 AM (#30005 - in reply to #29698) (#30005)Quote Reply Top




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The instructions for Volleyball contain a line that says "so that numbers repeat in any straight line" and also a "no repeat rule". Based on the example, I think the first phrase is the wrong one.
tamz29
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 6:18 AM (#30006 - in reply to #30005) (#30006)Quote Reply Top




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Timjamiller - 2021-11-18 5:27 AM

The instructions for Volleyball contain a line that says "so that numbers repeat in any straight line" and also a "no repeat rule". Based on the example, I think the first phrase is the wrong one.


You are right, it is a major typo. Normal Trid rules apply and "numbers do not repeat in any straight line".
Sorry about the mistake, thank you for alerting us.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 8:17 AM (#30007 - in reply to #30002) (#30007)Quote Reply Top


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The 22nd Time Trial, Tae Kwon Do, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T22
Timjamiller
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 8:58 AM (#30008 - in reply to #29698) (#30008)Quote Reply Top




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I think there may have been an oversight in the answer key for Tae Kwon Do. This may be a spoiler, though. Anyway, the booklet didn't specify to use units digits, but the answer is marked as incorrect if you put in the full digit string. I'd assume that due to this oversight, appropriate errors will be rectified and the score will reflect the original time of the "error" in the answer key. Edit: This is particularly important for people, like me, who solved using ONLY the penpa link, and didn't see the instruction that was in the puzzle but not the IB.

Edited by Timjamiller 2021-11-18 9:02 AM
tamz29
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 9:53 AM (#30009 - in reply to #30008) (#30009)Quote Reply Top




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Timjamiller - 2021-11-18 8:58 AM

I think there may have been an oversight in the answer key for Tae Kwon Do. This may be a spoiler, though. Anyway, the booklet didn't specify to use units digits, but the answer is marked as incorrect if you put in the full digit string. I'd assume that due to this oversight, appropriate errors will be rectified and the score will reflect the original time of the "error" in the answer key. Edit: This is particularly important for people, like me, who solved using ONLY the penpa link, and didn't see the instruction that was in the puzzle but not the IB.


We understand and will accept the alternate answer key. The penalties will be manually revoked for those affected some time later. Thank you for pointing this out. Apologies for the snag.

Edited by tamz29 2021-11-18 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 11:11 AM (#30010 - in reply to #30008) (#30010)Quote Reply Top


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Timjamiller - 2021-11-18 8:58 AM

I think there may have been an oversight in the answer key for Tae Kwon Do. This may be a spoiler, though. Anyway, the booklet didn't specify to use units digits, but the answer is marked as incorrect if you put in the full digit string. I'd assume that due to this oversight, appropriate errors will be rectified and the score will reflect the original time of the "error" in the answer key. Edit: This is particularly important for people, like me, who solved using ONLY the penpa link, and didn't see the instruction that was in the puzzle but not the IB.
This is corrected.
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-18 2:20 PM (#30011 - in reply to #29698) (#30011)Quote Reply Top


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The 23rd Time Trial, Triathlon, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T23
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Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-19 2:16 AM (#30019 - in reply to #29698) (#30019)Quote Reply Top


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The 24th Time Trial, Judo, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T24
RogerChristman
Subject: Re: 2021 WS+PC Time Trials @ 2021-11-19 3:04 AM (#30021 - in reply to #30019) (#30021)Quote Reply Top




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