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2021 WS+PC Time Trials
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@ 2021-11-19 3:04 AM (#30021 - in reply to #30019) (#30021)Quote Reply Top

RogerChristman



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RogerChristman posted @ 2021-11-19 3:04 AM

How do we get all unshaded cells into one single contiguous region
if they are already separated into 3 separate non-contiguous regions?
Adding more shading will not eliminate the grey shading that
is already present.
@ 2021-11-19 3:07 AM (#30022 - in reply to #29698) (#30022)Quote Reply Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 3:07 AM

The grey shading is for aesthetic purposes only. You may use some other colours to determine shaded and unshaded areas.

The unshaded cells do not need to be a single contiguous region, only the shaded cells need to be. The unshaded cells just have the shape restrictions.
@ 2021-11-19 5:37 AM (#30025 - in reply to #29698) (#30025)Quote Reply Top

Gotroch



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Gotroch posted @ 2021-11-19 5:37 AM

I tried to solve last few Time Trial puzzles in Penpa, but there is no Undo/Redo button.
Is that intentional or is it just some problem on my side?
@ 2021-11-19 8:22 AM (#30026 - in reply to #29698) (#30026)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 8:22 AM

The 25th Time Trial, Cycling, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T25
@ 2021-11-19 9:04 AM (#30027 - in reply to #30025) (#30027)Quote Reply Top

Sedho



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Sedho posted @ 2021-11-19 9:04 AM

Penpa has a Contest Mode which prevents solvers from using the undo function, I think this was used for the later time trials.
@ 2021-11-19 1:53 PM (#30029 - in reply to #30027) (#30029)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 1:53 PM

Sedho - 2021-11-19 9:04 AM

Penpa has a Contest Mode which prevents solvers from using the undo function, I think this was used for the later time trials.


The clone function can still be used in contest mode.
@ 2021-11-19 2:19 PM (#30031 - in reply to #29698) (#30031)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 2:19 PM

The 26th Time Trial, Pentathlon, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T26
@ 2021-11-19 2:51 PM (#30033 - in reply to #29698) (#30033)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 2:51 PM

Tile Wordsearch has 2 solutions. Both have been added now, and we will sort out the submissions once the time's up.
@ 2021-11-19 8:19 PM (#30034 - in reply to #29698) (#30034)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-19 8:19 PM

The 27th Time Trial, Skateboarding, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T27
Please note there is no online solving for this puzzle (it is noted on the submission page too)
@ 2021-11-20 1:23 AM (#30037 - in reply to #29698) (#30037)Quote Reply Top

muhorka



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muhorka posted @ 2021-11-20 1:23 AM

Question for boxing - the answer code for example puzzles should be 3,3 right?
@ 2021-11-20 2:03 AM (#30038 - in reply to #29698) (#30038)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 2:03 AM

You are right. That seems to be pasted from some other puzzle's key. It should be 3,3.
@ 2021-11-20 2:13 AM (#30039 - in reply to #29698) (#30039)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 2:13 AM

The 28th Time Trial, Boxing, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T28
@ 2021-11-20 8:13 AM (#30040 - in reply to #29698) (#30040)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 8:13 AM

The 29th Time Trial, Tennis, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T29
@ 2021-11-20 2:20 PM (#30041 - in reply to #29698) (#30041)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 2:20 PM

The 30th Time Trial, Volleyball, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T30
See some minor notes on the submission page.
@ 2021-11-20 8:17 PM (#30046 - in reply to #29698) (#30046)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 8:17 PM

The 31st Time Trial, Canoeing, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T31
@ 2021-11-20 8:17 PM (#30047 - in reply to #29698) (#30047)Quote Reply Top

Bluey



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Bluey posted @ 2021-11-20 8:17 PM

For the Canoeing Time Trial, do we put commas between each co-ordinate? (eg. "H1,J2,J4,I6" or "H1J2J4I6")
@ 2021-11-20 8:23 PM (#30048 - in reply to #29698) (#30048)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-20 8:23 PM

No commas or spaces. Only letters and digits. We have put that message on the key space too.
@ 2021-11-21 2:22 AM (#30050 - in reply to #29698) (#30050)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-21 2:22 AM

The 32nd Time Trial, Basketball, is starting soon! Link - https://logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=WSPC2021_T32
@ 2021-11-21 3:16 AM (#30051 - in reply to #29698) (#30051)Quote Reply Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2021-11-21 3:16 AM

Uh oh, the rules for Aqre are wrong in the Instruction Booklet! Aqre has a rule that *you cannot have 4 unshaded cells in a row, anywhere in the grid*. This is not mentioned in the rules, and it is not used in the very-shaded example.
So anybody trying the Basketball Time Trial is going to get very stuck one third of the way through unless they know this...
@ 2021-11-21 3:19 AM (#30052 - in reply to #29698) (#30052)Quote Reply Top

pwahs



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pwahs posted @ 2021-11-21 3:19 AM

(For those who find the puzzle unsolvably hard, the rules were missing that no 4 adjacent unshaded cells can appear either, had to look up the Aqre rules during the trial on puzz.link.)

(Edit: posted simultaneously to the above)

Edited by pwahs 2021-11-21 3:21 AM
@ 2021-11-21 3:41 AM (#30053 - in reply to #29698) (#30053)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-21 3:41 AM

We are very sorry about the missing rule. Thanks James and Philipp for pointing it out. For now we have added a note in the submission page which hopefully helps anyone who will try the puzzle in the future. Beyond that, we will discuss it and see if more action is to be taken.
@ 2021-11-21 4:03 AM (#30054 - in reply to #30051) (#30054)Quote Reply Top

Semax



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Semax posted @ 2021-11-21 4:03 AM

Thanks for the hint about the missing Aqre rule. I spent way too much time on it.
@ 2021-11-21 5:45 AM (#30055 - in reply to #29698) (#30055)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-21 5:45 AM

After some internal discussion we have decided that the individual winners of Time Trial 8 and Time Trial 32 will stay, and the medals from these rounds will not count to country tallies. We will sort that out in the Hall of Fame page in a while.
@ 2021-11-21 6:50 AM (#30056 - in reply to #30055) (#30056)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-21 6:50 AM

Administrator - 2021-11-21 5:45 AM

We will sort that out in the Hall of Fame page in a while.
The Hallf of Fame page reflects this now.
@ 2021-11-22 12:54 AM (#30069 - in reply to #29698) (#30069)Quote Reply Top

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Administrator posted @ 2021-11-22 12:54 AM


A combined PDF of all 33 Time Trial files is available here - https://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/WSPC_2021_T00_PB.pdf

Note that this is a combination of the competition PDFs as they were without any updates for issues like multiple solutions or wrong rules. One prominent example is, in Puzzle 32, Aqre, there must be a rule added that "there cannot be a continuous line of 4 unshaded cells in any row or column". The other major point to note is that in the Pentathlon, the Word Search has a an alternate solution. If in doubt it may be best to visit the progress page and go to the relevant competition page to see if anything is noted.

Thanks to IHNN for helping us put this together.

The link to this PDF is also there on the landing page in the first row of the Time Trials Table (which is now a combined table of all 33 time trials).

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