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@ 2012-09-20 5:38 PM (#8602 - in reply to #8593) (#8602) Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2012-09-20 5:38 PM

It can be a typo,or a guess,or a hurried entry with a bad answer format.So, this test uses a better instant grading system.
@ 2012-09-20 7:25 PM (#8603 - in reply to #8600) (#8603) Top

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vopani posted @ 2012-09-20 7:25 PM

kishy72 - 2012-09-20 5:06 PM

one incorrect submission would reduce the total puzzle points of that particular puzzle by 80% or the total points of all the puzzles by 80%?!

Only that particular puzzle.
@ 2012-09-20 7:30 PM (#8604 - in reply to #8602) (#8604) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-09-20 7:30 PM

A bad answer format will not be penalized.
For example, "entering 3 digits while 4 digits are expected" will not be penalized. The individual submit button will not be enabled if the answer key is not formatted properly.
@ 2012-09-20 10:32 PM (#8605 - in reply to #8584) (#8605) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-20 10:32 PM

3 things i need to be carefull is : (shared it thinking that it may be helpful to others too)
kakuro triplet - numbers repeat
doors - excluding cell itself
Hitori - shaded cells can be adjacent

2 questions ??
1) can one more sample of arithmetic box utilizing BODMAS Rule be uploaded (if possible)
2) Trimino hunt the triminos can be read from any direction right ??
i mean 223 can be read as 223 from left to right and 322 as if from right to left or 223 from top to bottom and 322 as if from bottom to top??
@ 2012-09-20 10:41 PM (#8606 - in reply to #8605) (#8606) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-09-20 10:41 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-09-20 10:32 PM

2) Trimino hunt the triminos can be read from any direction right ??
i mean 223 can be read as 223 from left to right and 322 as if from right to left or 223 from top to bottom and 322 as if from bottom to top??


Yes, they can. In the given Trimino set in the IB, there is no 322 given, as 223 and 322 are considered the same instance(this is usually the case with domino hunt puzzles and it looks to be the same here). So hunt for the ones given without caring about direction and stuff.

Edited by prasanna16391 2012-09-20 10:42 PM
@ 2012-09-20 10:45 PM (#8607 - in reply to #8584) (#8607) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-20 10:45 PM

ohk consider 233 which is marked as 332 from left to right correct??
@ 2012-09-21 1:57 PM (#8608 - in reply to #8584) (#8608) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-21 1:57 PM

One more doubt ??
In water fun all water cells need not be connected from different areas. i.e i mean there is no such rule mentioned so as that all water cells should be connected somehow right??
@ 2012-09-21 2:08 PM (#8609 - in reply to #8608) (#8609) Top

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vopani posted @ 2012-09-21 2:08 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-09-20 10:45 PM

ohk consider 233 which is marked as 332 from left to right correct??

233 is same as 332, irrespective of its direction, irrespective of it being horizontal/vertical.

swaroop2011 - 2012-09-21 1:57 PM

One more doubt ??
In water fun all water cells need not be connected from different areas. i.e i mean there is no such rule mentioned so as that all water cells should be connected somehow right??

The water cells do not 'have to' be connected. They may or may not be connected.
@ 2012-09-21 3:29 PM (#8610 - in reply to #8584) (#8610) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-21 3:29 PM

Thanks Rohan,

Here i made 3 practice puzzles for this test :Arithmetic Box, Doors, No-touch Diagonal Sudoku
Hope this would be helpful for everyone and you enjoy it !! :)
http://swaroopg92.blogspot.in/2012/09/puzzles-77-79-practice-puzzle...
@ 2012-09-21 9:54 PM (#8615 - in reply to #8584) (#8615) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-09-21 9:54 PM

Announcements

• Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 10 pages. There is no cover page / points table.
• Note again that Instant Grading is enabled in this test. You will get penalized for each intermediate wrong submission.


@ 2012-09-22 6:37 AM (#8616 - in reply to #8584) (#8616) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-09-22 6:37 AM

Restricted Thread

This is a restricted thread. As you might have seen during other LMI tests :

Comments posted in the thread after the test started can only be viewed by players who have finished the test. If you are not logged in to forum or if you have not finished the test, you will see first few characters of the post.

The purpose is to encourage players to freely post comments while the test is running.

@ 2012-09-22 7:21 AM (#8617 - in reply to #8584) (#8617) Top

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deu posted @ 2012-09-22 7:21 AM

Thanks for a really nice 1-2-3 themed set.
I broke 9 puzzles during the test and got completely confused. Probably my worst performance ever.
I hope I won't repeat the same failure in the upcoming WPC and WSC.
@ 2012-09-22 8:27 AM (#8618 - in reply to #8584) (#8618) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-09-22 8:27 AM

The score page is not yet done.
Some quick updates :
deu finished in 63:19 (too long in his opinion), but without mistakes
Melon finished 14 puzzles in 26 minutes (continuing). ETA : Melon finished in 36:52 minutes, with one submission mistake.

I hope to finish the score page soon.
@ 2012-09-22 8:47 AM (#8619 - in reply to #8618) (#8619) Top

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-09-22 8:47 AM

That was quite a sprint. Most of those puzzles fell in 1-2 minute rushes where the pencil almost didn't leave the page. Trimino Hunt, Battleships, and Snake really gave me trouble though. Probably didn't help that I broke each one midway in.

I continue to be 0 for something in correctly solving/entering sudoku puzzles over the last several months. Glad that was the only error, but that's going to hurt the time bonus...
@ 2012-09-22 9:39 AM (#8620 - in reply to #8584) (#8620) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-09-22 9:39 AM

I had a similar experience to deu's, kept breaking puzzles everywhere, and sometimes didn't see that I broke them. Thats gonna cost me quite a few places in this sprint-like test.

The puzzles themselves were nice. I liked Polyominos and Number Snake most, even though I made a stupid error on both of them during the test time.
@ 2012-09-22 12:43 PM (#8623 - in reply to #8584) (#8623) Top

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vopani posted @ 2012-09-22 12:43 PM

Score Page is now ready.

You can view the score page: http://logicmastersindia.com/M201209P2/score.asp
@ 2012-09-22 1:25 PM (#8624 - in reply to #8584) (#8624) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-09-22 1:25 PM

NIce puzzles and really needed sprint
Could have solved 3-4 more easily if not some disturbances and mistakes.
But was happy that submitted Fillomino at last second :p
was stuck in doors, snake, nurikabe, in which i made a mistake and it cost me the points as well as time.
Will have to take care from next time as in sprint test 1 mistake as much more effect than in normal test
Anyways Thanks Rohan for nice test :)
@ 2012-09-22 4:34 PM (#8626 - in reply to #8584) (#8626) Top

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gbansal posted @ 2012-09-22 4:34 PM

Water Tap: What does thick Layer region must have same surface area means in the water tap?
Does it mean that the thick layer region will have water completely or will not have at all ?
If so the example provided doesn't satisfy this rule.

Edited by gbansal 2012-09-22 4:35 PM
@ 2012-09-22 4:36 PM (#8627 - in reply to #8626) (#8627) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-09-22 4:36 PM

gbansal - 2012-09-22 4:34 PM

Water Tap: What does thick Layer region must have same surface area means in the water tap?
Does it mean that the thick layer region will have water completely or will not have at all ?
If so the example provided doesn't satisfy this rule.


Someone asked a similar query above, and you can refer to that. Anyway, The thick layer region, if it has water, will have at the same height. So suppose there is a scare region, you either have all 4 cells filled(surface height 2 units) or 2 bottom cells filled (surface height 1 unit)
@ 2012-09-22 8:00 PM (#8629 - in reply to #8584) (#8629) Top

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anurag posted @ 2012-09-22 8:00 PM

Fun puzzles.Shame that i couldnt make much out of snake,ships and polyominos,and wasted all the time on them.
@ 2012-09-23 12:21 AM (#8633 - in reply to #8584) (#8633) Top

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FoxFireX posted @ 2012-09-23 12:21 AM

One thing I was surprised by a bit was the penalties on questions that I never managed to figure out at all. I assumed from the earlier posts that if you entered a wrong answer, then a correct one, you'd get partial credit, but entering a wrong answer and never solving it would not incur a penalty by itself. I could have read it wrong, but was a little disappointed.

Very enjoyable puzzles, misunderstanding of penalties aside. :)

Edited to add: And now I see some of those penalties evaporating. Maybe it just needs a little post-processing by the admins.

Edited by FoxFireX 2012-09-23 12:30 AM
@ 2012-09-23 12:45 AM (#8634 - in reply to #8633) (#8634) Top

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vopani posted @ 2012-09-23 12:45 AM

FoxFireX - 2012-09-23 12:21 AM

Edited to add: And now I see some of those penalties evaporating. Maybe it just needs a little post-processing by the admins.

Yes :-) We haven't automated that part. It would probably be in place by the next Instant Grading test.

I'm glad you enjoyed the puzzles.
@ 2012-09-23 7:09 AM (#8635 - in reply to #8584) (#8635) Top

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ksun48 posted @ 2012-09-23 7:09 AM

I like the test, despite only getting 66. Are penalties going to be incurred for puzzles that were never solved? (e.g. random guessing?)
@ 2012-09-23 7:15 AM (#8636 - in reply to #8635) (#8636) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-09-23 7:15 AM

ksun48 - 2012-09-23 7:09 AM

I like the test, despite only getting 66. Are penalties going to be incurred for puzzles that were never solved? (e.g. random guessing?)
Like Rohan replied in the previous post, "penalty for puzzles that were never solved" have to be removed manually. It is done now for you, and you can refresh score page to check.
@ 2012-09-23 5:38 PM (#8638 - in reply to #8584) (#8638) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2012-09-23 5:38 PM

I didn't see that the timing was 80 minutes. I was lucky to have the idea to submit after 73 minutes...
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