bakpao - 2023-07-10 3:40 PM

It would be nice if puzzles uploaded as example puzzles weren't treated as normal puzzles. Things I'm particularly thinking about are:

- Being able to see the (unsolved) puzzle without having started it on the puzzle page
- Being able to see the solution (by toggle?) without having to solve the puzzle
- (To a lesser extent and because of the above) perhaps no leaderboards/ratings on these puzzles
- (Also less important) an indication in the search engine that the puzzle is an example puzzle

The examples mainly serve to illustrate/explain a ruleset and being able to solve them should still be possible, but I think they would have much more value if you can see them before solving them.
This would also be in line with other platforms (puzz.link and puzzleduel come to mind) and most instruction booklets.

Apologies if any of this is already the case (I believe I'm the only one who has uploaded example puzzles so far so perhaps it's just something I'm not able to see/validate)

Realshaggy - 2023-07-05 9:50 PM

The "List of Standard Puzzles/Examples..." has a different header than the other pages (in particular it is missing the freshly introduced "Help" menu, but also a few other options). Smae for some other pages. I can't see a system behind it. Maybe the header should be the same for all pages.

Realshaggy - 2023-07-14 7:52 PM

I think the filter just excludes the pure "emoji" comments.

Realshaggy - 2023-07-14 6:12 PM
Since this is a hobby for (almost) all of us, I would suggest using a less harsh wording on the recently introduced "penalties" page . In particular, I think it would be better to talk about "restrictions" instead of "penalities".

Menderbug - 2023-07-15 6:52 AMI just tried to submit a puzzle for the first time, but both the Preview and Submit buttons seem to do nothing except set the puzzle's Display Size to 20 for some reason. Am I doing something silly?

Realshaggy - 2023-07-15 8:39 AMI have some strange behavior in my only posted puzzle. There was a comment, that the answer check was not triggering for somebody. There were a lot of solutions since then, so maybe the solution was just wrong in this case, I don't know. But I still decided to check it. And whatever I do if I start the puzzle in "review" mode, it seems like I can't trigger the answer check either. Not in Sudoku mode (which is set by default) not in numbers mode, not in any color I tried. Is it still possible to trigger the answer check in "review" mode in a puzzle that is a few weeks old? I'm sure it worked, when I set it up originally. I can provide the solution if that helps, just send me a message in that case.

Realshaggy - 2023-07-08 8:15 AMBut even then, if this is a common mistake, there is a question if there might be a better guidance for the setter.

Menderbug - 2023-07-16 7:05 PM
It might be nice to allow people to mark (at least non-exclusive) puzzles as solved without actually having to solve them. There have been a couple such puzzles that I have solved before elsewhere. I know I can skip them to remove them from the front page, but then they'll still be counted as unsolved (and I can't submit a rating, I think).

Menderbug - 2023-07-16 7:05 PM
It might be nice to allow people to mark (at least non-exclusive) puzzles as solved without actually having to solve them. There have been a couple such puzzles that I have solved before elsewhere. I know I can skip them to remove them from the front page, but then they'll still be counted as unsolved (and I can't submit a rating, I think).

bakpao - 2023-07-10 3:40 PM
- Being able to see the solution (by toggle?) without having to solve the puzzle

bakpao - 2023-07-21 4:14 PM
Ah, I see. I'd be happy to upload future examples using Edit Mode. I'll wait with starting to do so until you reach a decision on implementing or not though, but thanks for looking into it in any case!

bakpao - 2023-07-23 8:30 AMOh great! That's fantastic. Do example puzzles now need to be uploaded with edit mode then or is solver mode fine as well?

Realshaggy - 2023-07-01 5:53 AMJust from trying the first few puzzles, one of the ways to mess up is by defining the wrong "default tool" that is used when you first open the puzzle in Penpa_PLUS_. If you use Penpa_PLUS_ a lot, you know what to do to fix that, but it's still a bit annoying, if you know there would have been a better option. And new users might throw the towel here already, if it is impossible to solve the puzzle with the tool that is given them on default. Don't know what your target audience is, but you probably want to put the bar for accessibility as low as possible. Just an example (without wanting to blame him, just so you know that I mean): Sams Slitherlink uses coloring as the default tool when it is opened and I think I have seen three more puzzles by now that felt wrong. But I also have no idea how to "guide" the setter to set up the best available tool as default.