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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | forcolin - 2016-04-20 8:27 PM
a question about 4.BRICKS.
the brick fragment which must be filled with the length of the brick will always occur at one of the ends of the brick or it can occur also in the middle?
Length is always stated at the end of the brick. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | kiwijam - 2016-04-21 5:34 AM
"Borderless Sextet" questions:
- Is every cell of the grid in one of the 6 regions? Or can there be cells which are not used?
- Packing Figures are only on white cells, Battleships only on blue cells, the other 4 regions can be white or blue. Correct?
- The Battleships region must include empty cells between ships, but can other regions include empty cells also? e.g. can the Snake region be larger than 19 cells, or can the Scrabble region include cells without letters?
I think in the other three regions, every cell must be part of a loop/tetromino/yellow figure?
1. Each cell belongs to one of 6 regions.
2. Correct.
3. Yes. |
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rob
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Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2016-04-21 5:25 PM In the Citadel stair codes answer code is marked red, although my format seems correct as far as I can tell. |
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Mihalich
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Country : Ukraine | ??????? 6 - ?. 4 ?????? ?????????? ? ??????? ??????. ??? ????? ?????????? 4? |
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Mihalich
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Country : Ukraine | Zadanije 6 - C. 4 dolgno nahoditsa tolko v zelenoy kletke. Kak i kuda moget otrazitsa 4? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Mihalich - 2016-04-21 11:01 PM
Zadanije 6 - C. 4 dolgno nahoditsa tolko v zelenoy kletke. Kak i kuda moget otrazitsa 4?
4, chto v pole C, otrazitsya v 4 v pole A, esli sootvetstvuyushchie kletki zelyonye. |
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Country : India | Tie-breaker for Puzzle 10 - OPTI-PENTOBATTLEAnnouncement from Riad - Tie-breaker for solutions with same value of K + 1.5NIf two solutions have same value of K + 1.5N, the solution which has smallest rectangular Pentomino area will be considered as better solution.
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Para
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Country : The Netherlands | Para posted @ 2016-04-22 5:29 PM Administrator - 2016-04-22 2:37 PM
Tie-breaker for Puzzle 10 - OPTI-PENTOBATTLEAnnouncement from Riad - Tie-breaker for solutions with same value of K + 1.5NIf two solutions have same value of K + 1.5N, the solution which has smallest rectangular Pentomino area will be considered as better solution.
What does smallest rectangular Sea Area mean exactly? Is that the smallest rectangle the pentomino shape could be fitted in (with max dimensions 10 by 10 )? Is this purely by size (9x4=6x6 )? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Para - 2016-04-22 5:29 PM
What does smallest rectangular Sea Area mean exactly? Is that the smallest rectangle the pentomino shape could be fitted in (with max dimensions 10 by 10)? Is this purely by size (9x4=6x6)?
The best, where Pentamino area limited by the rectangle of smaller area. For example, the area bounded by the rectangle 8x10 better that by the rectangle 9x9.
The length of the rectangle cannot be more than 10. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Deb, please change places K and N in the Tie-breaker. Must be K + 1.5N. |
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chaotic_iak
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Country : Indonesia | To clarify, it's the Pentomino area that's on the tiebreaker, not the Sea area, right? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | chaotic_iak - 2016-04-22 9:06 PM
To clarify, it's the Pentomino area that's on the tiebreaker, not the Sea area, right?
In our case Pentamino area is the Sea area. |
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chaotic_iak
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Country : Indonesia | So it's the area that's not covered by pentomino, the area that doesn't contain the ships? |
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kiwijam
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Country : New Zealand | kiwijam posted @ 2016-04-23 4:31 AM So it's the area that's not covered by pentomino, the area that doesn't contain the ships?
The area not covered by pentominoes is "land". The pentominoes are the "sea". The ships are placed into the sea somewhere. So then the pentominoes contain ship cells and empty sea cells.
You need to find the smallest rectangle (max 10x10 ) that will hold all your pentominoes. |
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chaotic_iak
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Country : Indonesia | Oh, right, ships are placed on sea. I instinctively translate regions left without pieces as sea.
I also misread the tiebreaker, thinking that the tiebreaker is to minimize the area of the largest rectangular region that is entirely inside the pentominoes. |
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forcolin
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Country : ITALY | question about 9 ACCORDANCES
Is the question solvable only with logic/algebraic calculations or does it require knowledge in a particular field? (music, sport, astronomy etc.) |
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Igor_Aipkin
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Country : Uzbekistan | Sorry for repeating the question, that was above, but nevertheless - my answers for puzzles 1 and 12 are considered in wrong format, though I checked it many times. Deb said that it would be fixed, but it's still not. Is there a way to be sure that the format of the answer is right? Maybe a pm from someone? I'm not asking to check the answer itself, only format.
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?
Edited by Igor_Aipkin 2016-04-26 1:27 AM
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forcolin
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Country : ITALY | I have used the notation in parenthesis - for example (19). i know the length of the input string is longer and the format alarm goes on but i believe this is a warning for the player rather than a physical limitation to the length. If i am wrong pls administrator let me know and i will change the format |
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Country : India | Igor_Aipkin - 2016-04-26 1:26 AM
Sorry for repeating the question, that was above, but nevertheless - my answers for puzzles 1 and 12 are considered in wrong format, though I checked it many times. Deb said that it would be fixed, but it's still not. Is there a way to be sure that the format of the answer is right? Maybe a pm from someone? I'm not asking to check the answer itself, only format.
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?
Fixed red warnings for 1 (again )
Red warnings for 12 can not be fixed. Please ignore them and submit carefully.
About 8 : Riad expects to type 19. You can follow forcolin's advice above, if you want.
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | forcolin - 2016-04-24 2:43 AM
question about 9 ACCORDANCES
Is the question solvable only with logic/algebraic calculations or does it require knowledge in a particular field? (music, sport, astronomy etc.)
Accepted any answer. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Igor_Aipkin - 2016-04-26 1:26 AM
One more question - about puzzle 8 - how do you write the content of a cell with a number, if it has more than one digit - for example 19 - should I write 19 or 9, for example, or somehow else?
Only one solver gave the last digits of the numbers, but I'll count this answer as correct. |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | In the puzzle VOYAGE five solvers have indicated a certain number once (instead of having to do it twice). I think to count such answers as correctly, because the solvers could be difficulties with the translation of the text. |
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Igor_Aipkin
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Country : Uzbekistan | Riad, I'd like to know your personal opinion about the way to solve optimizers - how do you think, is it ok to write programs to solve them, or they should be solved by a human alone? I know you can't check how everyone does it, but how are they intended to be solved? Can a solution, found by a program, be "true"? |
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Riad Khanmagomedov
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Country : Russia | Igor_Aipkin - 2016-04-26 4:24 PM
Riad, I'd like to know your personal opinion about the way to solve optimizers - how do you think, is it ok to write programs to solve them, or they should be solved by a human alone? I know you can't check how everyone does it, but how are they intended to be solved? Can a solution, found by a program, be "true"?
Igor, I am not a programmer. In the years of study at University, I have relied on pure math, and now regret that I ignored the programming. 16 years since I quit math and do editorial work. As a solver I don't use programs. Are programmers other solvers? I don't know. I know that Kiwijam, won in the April Contest in past years, reported in detail on their strategies for optimization puzzles and without programming. |
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Mihalich
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Country : Ukraine | Zadanije 7. Nugno perechislat vse cisla v geltoy linii (primer 12) - 12,12,10,8,11 ili tolko po odnoy - 12,10,8,11 |
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