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Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020
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Subject: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-15 5:53 PM (#27732) (#27732) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2020pr.asp
Instructions for Shading and Loops - https://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/


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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-15 7:39 PM (#27733 - in reply to #27732) (#27733) Top


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Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/

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Subject: RE: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-16 12:42 PM (#27735 - in reply to #27732) (#27735) Top




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Does the Ripple Loop example have two solutions (see attached)? Or am I misunderstanding the rules?



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Feadoor
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-16 1:22 PM (#27736 - in reply to #27732) (#27736) Top




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In your proposed solution, the loop travels straight through both R3C1 and R3C2, which is against the rules.
swaroop2011
Subject: RE: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-17 1:25 AM (#27737 - in reply to #27735) (#27737) Top


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ghirsch - 2020-03-16 12:42 PM

Does the Ripple Loop example have two solutions (see attached)? Or am I misunderstanding the rules?


Just reiterating what Feadoor already mentioned.

For every pair of adjacent circles, if the loop passes through one of them as straight, it must turn in another.
In your solution, R3C1 and R3C2 are adjacent circles and the loop is going straight in both of them, which is against the rules.
ghirsch
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-17 10:43 AM (#27738 - in reply to #27732) (#27738) Top




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Oh, I see. My misunderstanding was the phrase "edge-adjacent", which I took to mean that two circles were adjacent on an edge of the path (e.g. in the example R1C1 and R3C1 share an edge of the path, and no other circles are between them).

Maybe change the wording in the instructions to simply "For any two adjacent circles, the loop must..."?

Edited by ghirsch 2020-03-17 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-17 1:54 PM (#27739 - in reply to #27732) (#27739) Top


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(Updated) Instruction Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet (March 17 1:50 PM IST) is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/

Change in the new version:
(1) Rules for Ripple Loop have been re-worded.

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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-19 5:24 PM (#27740 - in reply to #27732) (#27740) Top


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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-19 11:07 PM (#27741 - in reply to #27732) (#27741) Top


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Puzzle Booklet


The password protected Puzzle Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/

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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 9:53 AM (#27742 - in reply to #27732) (#27742) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Trio Cut
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Great contest! The puzzles were really nice, and well balanced across the various types!
vopani
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 11:28 AM (#27743 - in reply to #27732) (#27743) Top


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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Transparent Yajilin
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Too hard to choose favourite puzzles. All of them were fantastic and a great PR set.

This will go down as one of the best across years.

Thanks a lot Swaroop!
Puzzle_Maestro
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 8:14 PM (#27744 - in reply to #27732) (#27744) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Border Nurikabe
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 8:17 PM (#27745 - in reply to #27732) (#27745) Top




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When you have people finishing the test in 27 minutes, it's probably too easy! Despite this, I thought the puzzles were very nice and fun to solve, so overall an excellent test.
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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 10:10 PM (#27747 - in reply to #27732) (#27747) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


anurag
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 10:24 PM (#27748 - in reply to #27732) (#27748) Top




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Thanks for an easy-raised-to-the-power-of-2 test. The puzzle quality was very decent. I thought the 7-pointer Trio cut and 12-pointeer Nurikabe were overrated though. On the other hand, I struggled 25 minutes to break the tricky loop closure in the centre-left center in the 10-pointer RL!

Edited by anurag 2020-03-20 10:24 PM
anurag
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-20 10:36 PM (#27749 - in reply to #27732) (#27749) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Myopia
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 2:50 AM (#27751 - in reply to #27732) (#27751) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Lovely puzzle set, although I found it quite hard. That, however, is probably because I am weak at some of these shading variants, but I enjoyed it!

Thanks, Swaroop!
And thanks for dedicating some of the puzzles to Shaheer :) wonderful gesture...
bob
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 3:18 AM (#27753 - in reply to #27732) (#27753) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Myopia
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very hard for me as usual but i am just an average solver. Most were fun enough without the timer, except the ripple loop puzzles. I found even the 2 pointer to be impossible. I solved it several times and even downloaded the instructions/examples again during the test and do not understand where i am wrong. My solution is 320212
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:38 AM (#27754 - in reply to #27742) (#27754) Top


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ghirsch - 2020-03-20 9:53 AM

Great contest! The puzzles were really nice, and well balanced across the various types!


Thank you. I am glad you enjoyed.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:39 AM (#27755 - in reply to #27743) (#27755) Top


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vopani - 2020-03-20 11:28 AM

Too hard to choose favourite puzzles. All of them were fantastic and a great PR set.

This will go down as one of the best across years.

Thanks a lot Swaroop!


Thanks a lot, Rohan.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:41 AM (#27756 - in reply to #27745) (#27756) Top


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Puzzle_Maestro - 2020-03-20 8:17 PM

When you have people finishing the test in 27 minutes, it's probably too easy! Despite this, I thought the puzzles were very nice and fun to solve, so overall an excellent test.


Thank you. The aim is to encourage more newcomers and so the difficulty was set towards easier with some challenging stuff for top solvers. I am glad you had fun.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:44 AM (#27757 - in reply to #27748) (#27757) Top


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anurag - 2020-03-20 10:24 PM

Thanks for an easy-raised-to-the-power-of-2 test. The puzzle quality was very decent. I thought the 7-pointer Trio cut and 12-pointeer Nurikabe were overrated though. On the other hand, I struggled 25 minutes to break the tricky loop closure in the centre-left center in the 10-pointer RL!


Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes the points can be varying based on the experience, as some of them find shading and loop puzzles easy while some find it hard, so there might be some minor variation in the Points to Difficulty experience. But I hope overall it was as close to its possible. Ripple Loop indeed was challenging.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:45 AM (#27758 - in reply to #27751) (#27758) Top


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priyambhushan - 2020-03-21 2:50 AM

Lovely puzzle set, although I found it quite hard. That, however, is probably because I am weak at some of these shading variants, but I enjoyed it!

Thanks, Swaroop!
And thanks for dedicating some of the puzzles to Shaheer :) wonderful gesture...


Thanks Priyam. I am confident you will master it soon.
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 5:51 AM (#27759 - in reply to #27753) (#27759) Top


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bob - 2020-03-21 3:18 AM

Very hard for me as usual but i am just an average solver. Most were fun enough without the timer, except the ripple loop puzzles. I found even the 2 pointer to be impossible. I solved it several times and even downloaded the instructions/examples again during the test and do not understand where i am wrong. My solution is 320212


Thank's for your feedback. We would be happy to assist you if you need help in solving certain puzzles. You can post here, where you are stuck, and we can guide you through the next steps.
I can only inform you that, all puzzles are logically approachable.
Timjamiller
Subject: Re: Shading and Loops - 20th - 25th Mar 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-03-21 7:17 AM (#27760 - in reply to #27732) (#27760) Top




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This is the first set that I was able to complete in time while live.

So I'm excited about that, even if the test seems to have been on the easier side.

I definitely needed to reread the instructions a couple of times in order to find the solutions, especially for Ripple Loop. But overall I'm pleased with my result. Hooray!
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