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@ 2020-03-17 1:54 PM (#27739 - in reply to #27732) (#27739) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2020-03-17 1:54 PM

(Updated) Instruction Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet (March 17 1:50 PM IST) is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/

Change in the new version:
(1) Rules for Ripple Loop have been re-worded.

@ 2020-03-19 5:24 PM (#27740 - in reply to #27732) (#27740) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-19 5:24 PM

Best of Luck to Everyone.
I hope you Enjoy the Test.
Stay Safe. Stay Healthy.
@ 2020-03-19 11:07 PM (#27741 - in reply to #27732) (#27741) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2020-03-19 11:07 PM

Puzzle Booklet


The password protected Puzzle Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/202003/

@ 2020-03-20 9:53 AM (#27742 - in reply to #27732) (#27742) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2020-03-20 9:53 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Trio Cut
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Great contest! The puzzles were really nice, and well balanced across the various types!
@ 2020-03-20 11:28 AM (#27743 - in reply to #27732) (#27743) Top

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vopani posted @ 2020-03-20 11:28 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Transparent Yajilin
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Too hard to choose favourite puzzles. All of them were fantastic and a great PR set.

This will go down as one of the best across years.

Thanks a lot Swaroop!
@ 2020-03-20 8:14 PM (#27744 - in reply to #27732) (#27744) Top

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Puzzle_Maestro posted @ 2020-03-20 8:14 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Border Nurikabe
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-03-20 8:17 PM (#27745 - in reply to #27732) (#27745) Top

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Puzzle_Maestro posted @ 2020-03-20 8:17 PM

When you have people finishing the test in 27 minutes, it's probably too easy! Despite this, I thought the puzzles were very nice and fun to solve, so overall an excellent test.
@ 2020-03-20 10:10 PM (#27747 - in reply to #27732) (#27747) Top

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-03-20 10:24 PM (#27748 - in reply to #27732) (#27748) Top

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anurag posted @ 2020-03-20 10:24 PM

Thanks for an easy-raised-to-the-power-of-2 test. The puzzle quality was very decent. I thought the 7-pointer Trio cut and 12-pointeer Nurikabe were overrated though. On the other hand, I struggled 25 minutes to break the tricky loop closure in the centre-left center in the 10-pointer RL!

Edited by anurag 2020-03-20 10:24 PM
@ 2020-03-20 10:36 PM (#27749 - in reply to #27732) (#27749) Top

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anurag posted @ 2020-03-20 10:36 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Myopia
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-03-21 2:50 AM (#27751 - in reply to #27732) (#27751) Top

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priyambhushan posted @ 2020-03-21 2:50 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Ripple Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Lovely puzzle set, although I found it quite hard. That, however, is probably because I am weak at some of these shading variants, but I enjoyed it!

Thanks, Swaroop!
And thanks for dedicating some of the puzzles to Shaheer :) wonderful gesture...
@ 2020-03-21 3:18 AM (#27753 - in reply to #27732) (#27753) Top

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bob posted @ 2020-03-21 3:18 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Myopia
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very hard for me as usual but i am just an average solver. Most were fun enough without the timer, except the ripple loop puzzles. I found even the 2 pointer to be impossible. I solved it several times and even downloaded the instructions/examples again during the test and do not understand where i am wrong. My solution is 320212
@ 2020-03-21 5:38 AM (#27754 - in reply to #27742) (#27754) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:38 AM

ghirsch - 2020-03-20 9:53 AM

Great contest! The puzzles were really nice, and well balanced across the various types!


Thank you. I am glad you enjoyed.
@ 2020-03-21 5:39 AM (#27755 - in reply to #27743) (#27755) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:39 AM

vopani - 2020-03-20 11:28 AM

Too hard to choose favourite puzzles. All of them were fantastic and a great PR set.

This will go down as one of the best across years.

Thanks a lot Swaroop!


Thanks a lot, Rohan.
@ 2020-03-21 5:41 AM (#27756 - in reply to #27745) (#27756) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:41 AM

Puzzle_Maestro - 2020-03-20 8:17 PM

When you have people finishing the test in 27 minutes, it's probably too easy! Despite this, I thought the puzzles were very nice and fun to solve, so overall an excellent test.


Thank you. The aim is to encourage more newcomers and so the difficulty was set towards easier with some challenging stuff for top solvers. I am glad you had fun.
@ 2020-03-21 5:44 AM (#27757 - in reply to #27748) (#27757) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:44 AM

anurag - 2020-03-20 10:24 PM

Thanks for an easy-raised-to-the-power-of-2 test. The puzzle quality was very decent. I thought the 7-pointer Trio cut and 12-pointeer Nurikabe were overrated though. On the other hand, I struggled 25 minutes to break the tricky loop closure in the centre-left center in the 10-pointer RL!


Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes the points can be varying based on the experience, as some of them find shading and loop puzzles easy while some find it hard, so there might be some minor variation in the Points to Difficulty experience. But I hope overall it was as close to its possible. Ripple Loop indeed was challenging.
@ 2020-03-21 5:45 AM (#27758 - in reply to #27751) (#27758) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:45 AM

priyambhushan - 2020-03-21 2:50 AM

Lovely puzzle set, although I found it quite hard. That, however, is probably because I am weak at some of these shading variants, but I enjoyed it!

Thanks, Swaroop!
And thanks for dedicating some of the puzzles to Shaheer :) wonderful gesture...


Thanks Priyam. I am confident you will master it soon.
@ 2020-03-21 5:51 AM (#27759 - in reply to #27753) (#27759) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 5:51 AM

bob - 2020-03-21 3:18 AM

Very hard for me as usual but i am just an average solver. Most were fun enough without the timer, except the ripple loop puzzles. I found even the 2 pointer to be impossible. I solved it several times and even downloaded the instructions/examples again during the test and do not understand where i am wrong. My solution is 320212


Thank's for your feedback. We would be happy to assist you if you need help in solving certain puzzles. You can post here, where you are stuck, and we can guide you through the next steps.
I can only inform you that, all puzzles are logically approachable.
@ 2020-03-21 7:17 AM (#27760 - in reply to #27732) (#27760) Top

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Timjamiller posted @ 2020-03-21 7:17 AM

This is the first set that I was able to complete in time while live.

So I'm excited about that, even if the test seems to have been on the easier side.

I definitely needed to reread the instructions a couple of times in order to find the solutions, especially for Ripple Loop. But overall I'm pleased with my result. Hooray!
@ 2020-03-21 2:13 PM (#27761 - in reply to #27732) (#27761) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-03-21 2:13 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Transparent Yajilin
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-03-21 6:42 PM (#27762 - in reply to #27732) (#27762) Top

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peluri posted @ 2020-03-21 6:42 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Myopia
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2020-03-21 6:58 PM (#27763 - in reply to #27759) (#27763) Top

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bob posted @ 2020-03-21 6:58 PM

Let a = corner with loop arms going down and to the right, b = down and to the left, c = up and to the left, d = up and to the right, - = horizontal, l = vertical, . = empty.
My solution row by row is ..a--b, a-cabl, l..lll, la-cll, ll.acl, dc.d-c
This this leads to the code 320212 which is incorrect. I presume I misinterpreted the rules somewhere but I've never had so much difficulty with a 2-point puzzle.

Thanks for your time and for especially for providing something interesting to do during these crazy times. Please be careful. -bob
@ 2020-03-21 7:55 PM (#27764 - in reply to #27760) (#27764) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 7:55 PM

Timjamiller - 2020-03-21 7:17 AM

This is the first set that I was able to complete in time while live.

So I'm excited about that, even if the test seems to have been on the easier side.

I definitely needed to reread the instructions a couple of times in order to find the solutions, especially for Ripple Loop. But overall I'm pleased with my result. Hooray!


Well Done. Indeed that was the intention, for many people to complete the test. I am glad you enjoyed an are happy.
@ 2020-03-21 7:56 PM (#27765 - in reply to #27763) (#27765) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2020-03-21 7:56 PM

bob - 2020-03-21 6:58 PM

Let a = corner with loop arms going down and to the right, b = down and to the left, c = up and to the left, d = up and to the right, - = horizontal, l = vertical, . = empty.
My solution row by row is ..a--b, a-cabl, l..lll, la-cll, ll.acl, dc.d-c
This this leads to the code 320212 which is incorrect. I presume I misinterpreted the rules somewhere but I've never had so much difficulty with a 2-point puzzle.

Thanks for your time and for especially for providing something interesting to do during these crazy times. Please be careful. -bob


May I know, which 2 point puzzle you are mentioning here? There are many puzzles. (Myopia, RL, Transparent Yajilin?)
@ 2020-03-21 8:21 PM (#27766 - in reply to #27763) (#27766) Top

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Timjamiller posted @ 2020-03-21 8:21 PM

Hey Bob. One misinterpretation you're having is that you're allowing empty spaces to occur. The puzzle instructions say that the loop must visit every cell.

The rule I was having trouble with was the horizontal/vertical adjacency stuff...mostly because I overlooked that in my first readthrough. I was originally thinking that it was path adjacent (like ghirsh) and not cell-adjacent.
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