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@ 2015-12-28 5:36 PM (#20392) (#20392) Top

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@ 2015-12-29 8:34 PM (#20422 - in reply to #20392) (#20422) Top

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Logic Masters Indian announces Tapa Variations Contest XVII

Date: 2nd - 4th January 2016

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XVII/


@ 2015-12-29 10:22 PM (#20423 - in reply to #20392) (#20423) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2015-12-29 10:22 PM

> The answer for the example would be:

The instruction booklet doesn't finish the sentence. Is that "111, 3, 111"?
@ 2015-12-29 10:29 PM (#20424 - in reply to #20392) (#20424) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2015-12-29 10:29 PM

Tapa with Borders: Are the clues outside the small grid guaranteed to be false, or only that they don't matter (they can be true or false)?
@ 2015-12-29 10:31 PM (#20425 - in reply to #20423) (#20425) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-29 10:31 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-12-29 10:22 PM

> The answer for the example would be:

The instruction booklet doesn't finish the sentence. Is that "111, 3, 111"?


:) I missed the line. Next version of IB has uploaded, and yes the solution is 111,3,111
@ 2015-12-29 10:38 PM (#20426 - in reply to #20424) (#20426) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-29 10:38 PM

chaotic_iak - 2015-12-29 10:29 PM

Tapa with Borders: Are the clues outside the small grid guaranteed to be false, or only that they don't matter (they can be true or false)?


You can check the TVC V, we used this puzzle in there. Normally the grid sizes should be given, but this time I didn't.

Outside clues can be true or false, it doesn't matter. We need to find a correct Tapa puzzle with a squared sized grid, other clues outside the grid are irrelevant.
@ 2015-12-29 11:30 PM (#20427 - in reply to #20392) (#20427) Top

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bskbri posted @ 2015-12-29 11:30 PM

Will instant grading be used, or not?
@ 2015-12-30 12:09 AM (#20428 - in reply to #20392) (#20428) Top

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rob posted @ 2015-12-30 12:09 AM

For Tapa Magic, digits must be non-zero?

For Tapa Logic and Knapp Daneben Tapa, a clue with only zeros means no shaded cells, while a clue with some zeros and some non-zero digits, the zeros are ignored?
@ 2015-12-30 12:28 AM (#20429 - in reply to #20427) (#20429) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-30 12:28 AM

bskbri - 2015-12-29 11:30 PM

Will instant grading be used, or not?


No we don't use
@ 2015-12-30 12:46 AM (#20430 - in reply to #20428) (#20430) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-30 12:46 AM

rob - 2015-12-30 12:09 AM

For Tapa Magic, digits must be non-zero?

For Tapa Logic and Knapp Daneben Tapa, a clue with only zeros means no shaded cells, while a clue with some zeros and some non-zero digits, the zeros are ignored?


1. Yes, digits must be non zero

2. For Knapp Daneben Tapa, if a clue contain zero/s all of them must be 1, but if I remember correctly I don't use zeros in this type.
For Tapa Logic, if a clue is formed with just zeros there are no blackened cells around the cell; if a clue contain some zeros and digits, you should ignore the zero/s.
@ 2015-12-30 12:53 AM (#20431 - in reply to #20430) (#20431) Top

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rob posted @ 2015-12-30 12:53 AM

yureklis - 2015-12-30 12:46 AM

rob - 2015-12-30 12:09 AM

For Tapa Magic, digits must be non-zero?

For Tapa Logic and Knapp Daneben Tapa, a clue with only zeros means no shaded cells, while a clue with some zeros and some non-zero digits, the zeros are ignored?


1. Yes, digits must be non zero

2. For Knapp Daneben Tapa, if a clue contain zero/s all of them must be 1, but if I remember correctly I don't use zeros in this type.
For Tapa Logic, if a clue is formed with just zeros there are no blackened cells around the cell; if a clue contain some zeros and digits, you should ignore the zero/s.


Thanks. For Knapp Daneben, I was thinking of clues that become zeros.
@ 2015-12-30 1:53 AM (#20433 - in reply to #20392) (#20433) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2015-12-30 1:53 AM

Could you explain how the extra time and penalties work?
@ 2015-12-30 8:04 AM (#20436 - in reply to #20433) (#20436) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2015-12-30 8:04 AM

ghirsch - 2015-12-30 1:53 AM

Could you explain how the extra time and penalties work?

The contest length is 75 minutes, however you can submit after 75 minutes, upto 80 minutes. This 5 minutes is "extra time" or "grace period". A penalty will be imposed if you submit during extra time (irrespective of whether the puzzle is correct or not). The penalty amount will be announced before the contest starts. For your reference, we used 5 points per minute in TVC XIII and 15 points per minute in TVC XVI.

The timer in the submission page will have two components. The extra time will be in red color. Additionally, you will also be able to see how much penalty you will get if you submit right at that moment.

Normal timer


Timer during grace period


@ 2015-12-30 10:31 AM (#20437 - in reply to #20392) (#20437) Top

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Para posted @ 2015-12-30 10:31 AM

Come on. I don't want to actually have to defend my title. Can we just cancel this? ;)
@ 2015-12-30 10:42 AM (#20438 - in reply to #20392) (#20438) Top

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Para posted @ 2015-12-30 10:42 AM

In Tapa Borders will the size of the square be known in the puzzle booklet or do you have to work that out?
@ 2015-12-30 1:40 PM (#20440 - in reply to #20437) (#20440) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-30 1:40 PM

Para - 2015-12-30 10:31 AM

Come on. I don't want to actually have to defend my title. Can we just cancel this? ;)


:) eheheee, You must :) Will you prepare practice puzzles and share with others in your blog, as you made before?
@ 2015-12-30 1:41 PM (#20441 - in reply to #20438) (#20441) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-30 1:41 PM

Para - 2015-12-30 10:42 AM

In Tapa Borders will the size of the square be known in the puzzle booklet or do you have to work that out?


Yes, we will give the size of the square in the puzzle booklet.
@ 2015-12-30 8:29 PM (#20445 - in reply to #20440) (#20445) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2015-12-30 8:29 PM

yureklis - 2015-12-30 1:40 PM

Para - 2015-12-30 10:31 AM

Come on. I don't want to actually have to defend my title. Can we just cancel this? ;)


:) eheheee, You must :) Will you prepare practice puzzles and share with others in your blog, as you made before?


Clearly he should continue this winning strategy.
@ 2015-12-30 8:49 PM (#20446 - in reply to #20445) (#20446) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2015-12-30 8:49 PM

prasanna16391 - 2015-12-30 8:29 PM

yureklis - 2015-12-30 1:40 PM

Para - 2015-12-30 10:31 AM

Come on. I don't want to actually have to defend my title. Can we just cancel this? ;)


:) eheheee, You must :) Will you prepare practice puzzles and share with others in your blog, as you made before?


Clearly he should continue this winning strategy.


Ahahaha this is good one :)))) I never thought like that. Yeee, I'm getting now why Bram prepared so many TVC practice puzzles :)
@ 2015-12-30 9:47 PM (#20451 - in reply to #20440) (#20451) Top

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Para posted @ 2015-12-30 9:47 PM

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Para - 2015-12-30 10:31 AM

Come on. I don't want to actually have to defend my title. Can we just cancel this? ;)


:) eheheee, You must :) Will you prepare practice puzzles and share with others in your blog, as you made before?


I assume this answers your question. :)

http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/tvc-xvii-practise-par...
@ 2016-01-02 4:29 AM (#20470 - in reply to #20392) (#20470) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-02 4:29 AM

Announcements

Password protected puzzle has 11 pages (including a cover page with points table)
Time bonus will be computed after you click 'Claim Bonus'
Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission



Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 3 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 5 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


@ 2016-01-02 8:21 AM (#20471 - in reply to #20392) (#20471) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-02 8:21 AM

@ 2016-01-02 9:00 AM (#20472 - in reply to #20392) (#20472) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2016-01-02 9:00 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for a fun test. I especially liked the TAPA LOGIC, and the Tapa Magic puzzles.
@ 2016-01-02 9:16 AM (#20473 - in reply to #20392) (#20473) Top

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logiclord posted @ 2016-01-02 9:16 AM

I am a newbie..Could you please tell me the password of the puzzle booklet?
@ 2016-01-02 9:28 AM (#20474 - in reply to #20473) (#20474) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-02 9:28 AM

logiclord - 2016-01-02 9:16 AM

I am a newbie..Could you please tell me the password of the puzzle booklet?
We will not be posting the password here in the forum. You need to login at the submission page ( http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XVII/ ), start the test, and you will get the password.

You might want to read the F.A.Q. about this.
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