Thread - Word Show — November Puzzle Test

@ 2012-11-09 1:25 PM (#8941) (#8941) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-11-09 1:25 PM

@ 2012-11-13 5:20 AM (#8944 - in reply to #8941) (#8944) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-11-13 5:20 AM

Logic Masters India announces November Puzzle Test — Word Show

Author : Nikola Zivanovic

Dates : 17^nd — 19^th November

Length : 90 minutes

IB and Submission Link : here

@ 2012-11-13 5:45 PM (#8946 - in reply to #8941) (#8946) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2012-11-13 5:45 PM

A few clarifications.
Hidden Words: I'm right to think that all words have to be placed in a straight line, readable from left to right or top to bottom. It's not mentioned in the instructions, but otherwise the example isn't unique.
Sigma Snake: The given letters aren't necessarily the head and tail of the snake. In the Snake Variations Contest they were.

Edited by Para 2012-11-13 5:48 PM

@ 2012-11-13 7:05 PM (#8947 - in reply to #8946) (#8947) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2012-11-13 7:05 PM

Hidden Words: I'm right to think that all words have to be placed in a straight line, readable from left to right or top to bottom. It's not mentioned in the instructions, but otherwise the example isn't unique.

Yes, you are right.

Sigma Snake: The given letters aren't necessarily the head and tail of the snake. In the Snake Variations Contest they were.

Two letters in grey cells represent head and tail of the snake. Some other letters may be given (e. g. like number 23 in classic snake). Those letters are not in grey cells and they are part of the snake. I hope it's clear now.

@ 2012-11-13 9:03 PM (#8948 - in reply to #8941) (#8948) Top

greenhorn

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greenhorn posted @ 2012-11-13 9:03 PM

Hi, I have also few questions.

Will be the proper answer rows marked in the PB?
Is it possible that we may cover 2x2 square only with a path (without any letters) in the puzzle no. 7 - Word Connection?
Is Slovakia one of the countries used in puzzle no. 12 - Word Search?

Thanks

@ 2012-11-14 1:44 AM (#8949 - in reply to #8948) (#8949) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2012-11-14 1:44 AM

Will be the proper answer rows marked in the PB?

Answer rows will be marked by an arrow(s) in all puzzles except in ABC Decoder and Word Connection.

Is it possible that we may cover 2x2 square only with a path (without any letters) in the puzzle no. 7 - Word Connection?

Yes, it is possible. There is no condition about 2x2 squares.

Is Slovakia one of the countries used in puzzle no. 12 - Word Search?

Slovakia is one of the listed countries, of course.

Edited by Nikola 2012-11-14 1:49 AM

@ 2012-11-14 2:44 AM (#8950 - in reply to #8949) (#8950) Top

greenhorn

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greenhorn posted @ 2012-11-14 2:44 AM

Thank you, Nikola!

This seems to be one of my favourite tests

@ 2012-11-14 5:27 AM (#8951 - in reply to #8949) (#8951) Top

greenhorn

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greenhorn posted @ 2012-11-14 5:27 AM

One small correction
Probably, there is one sentence missing from the instruction of puzzle no. 4 - Snail´s nest: ... Firstly replace one of the states with another state and then write the names into its own snail ... (E.g. Nebraska - New York)

@ 2012-11-14 11:01 AM (#8952 - in reply to #8941) (#8952) Top

Yuhei Kusui

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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2012-11-14 11:01 AM

I have a question about FULL TAPA.

There is a sentence in the Answer key paragraph - "in each answer key indicated by an arrow there will be at least one letter".
I wonder why this sentence doesn't appear in other puzzles.
Does that means we should use this condition to reach a unique solution at FULL TAPA?

@ 2012-11-14 11:21 AM (#8953 - in reply to #8951) (#8953) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-11-14 11:21 AM

greenhorn - 2012-11-14 5:27 AM

One small correction
Probably, there is one sentence missing from the instruction of puzzle no. 4 - Snail´s nest: ... Firstly replace one of the states with another state and then write the names into its own snail ... (E.g. Nebraska - New York)

The given word list is not correct.
2 practice puzzles from Indian Puzzle Championship 2011 attached.

Attachments
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IPC2011_Finals_Round3_Four_Snails.pdf (28KB - 16 downloads)

@ 2012-11-15 4:19 AM (#8954 - in reply to #8952) (#8954) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2012-11-15 4:19 AM

Thank you, Yuhei. Sorry, I should note that in the general instructions. This is not a condition, just an information, obviously bad placed. I tried to predict the possible question "what if there is no letters in answer row?"

@ 2012-11-15 4:24 AM (#8955 - in reply to #8951) (#8955) Top

Nikola

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Nikola posted @ 2012-11-15 4:24 AM

This is what happens when you do not pay enough attention for the instructions using copy-paste technology only. Sorry.

@ 2012-11-15 5:45 PM (#8957 - in reply to #8954) (#8957) Top

Yuhei Kusui

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Yuhei Kusui posted @ 2012-11-15 5:45 PM

Nikola - 2012-11-15 4:19 AM

Thanks Nikola, that makes a sense.

I'm really looking forward to this kind of test; it's a chance in a million for me to beat Hideaki and Kota

Edited by Yuhei Kusui 2012-11-15 5:46 PM

@ 2012-11-16 12:19 PM (#8964 - in reply to #8941) (#8964) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2012-11-16 12:19 PM

Links to lot of practice materials from Bram's blog and following Serkan's comment - http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.in/2012/11/puzzle-139-abc-decoder.ht...

@ 2012-11-16 10:06 PM (#8968 - in reply to #8941) (#8968) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-11-16 10:06 PM

Announcements

• Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 7 pages. There is no cover page / points table.
• Note about WORD CONNECTION : Answer format checking for the puzzle is not enabled.
• Link to score page : http://logicmastersindia.com/M201211P/score.asp
• The score page also has new feedback system tab.

@ 2012-11-17 7:12 AM (#8971 - in reply to #8941) (#8971) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2012-11-17 7:12 AM

Well my goal of leading the test at one point worked by taking it right at the start. I had fun. I enjoyed what I managed to solve.

@ 2012-11-17 10:32 AM (#8973 - in reply to #8941) (#8973) Top

chaotic_iak

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2012-11-17 10:32 AM

So I'm not used to word puzzles -_-

Nice test and tribute to WPC 2012.

@ 2012-11-18 3:57 AM (#8976 - in reply to #8973) (#8976) Top

MellowMelon

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MellowMelon posted @ 2012-11-18 3:57 AM

3 letters away from the word search (last puzzle) with one minute to go... and I discover after the test that my missing letter set was wrong, which explains why I couldn't finish it. Ouch. And for what is probably my new greatest oops in puzzle competitions, I missed the word stairs because I forgot to put my own name in.

Having the same word set for all puzzles was a nice touch, even ignoring that my name was in it. Meant that you could start picking up speed in the middle of the test as you got more used to the quirks of that particular word bank. Word Nurikabe for example seemed impossible when I tried it at the beginning, then not all that hard when I came back to it at the end.

@ 2012-11-18 5:25 PM (#8977 - in reply to #8941) (#8977) Top

Zormac

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Zormac posted @ 2012-11-18 5:25 PM

Certainly a nice test, a good mixture of intuitive word placement thinking and some more working puzzles. Even if my name was "included". :D Was surprising to fail on the Scrabble even after spending a few minutes on it - am not used to that. Great stuff.

@ 2012-11-18 5:56 PM (#8978 - in reply to #8941) (#8978) Top

Kota

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Kota posted @ 2012-11-18 5:56 PM

What a Good test! Nikola, Great Job!
But, I had a sad feeling because my place at WPC was 11th. If I had performed little better, my name would have been listed in the puzzles...

@ 2012-11-18 6:27 PM (#8979 - in reply to #8941) (#8979) Top

forcolin

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forcolin posted @ 2012-11-18 6:27 PM

How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were?	A bit skewed
What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Mostly perfect answer keys
How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test?	Just right
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?

Edited by forcolin 2012-11-18 6:41 PM

@ 2012-11-18 7:01 PM (#8980 - in reply to #8979) (#8980) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-11-18 7:01 PM

forcolin - 2012-11-18 6:27 PM

am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?

I believe you're the only one who's posted it on the forum so far. I'm sure others have voted.

@ 2012-11-18 7:02 PM (#8981 - in reply to #8941) (#8981) Top

kishy72

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kishy72 posted @ 2012-11-18 7:02 PM

How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were?	Very skewed
What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Too many hard puzzles
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Below Average
What was your opinion about the answer key extraction?	Perfect answer keys
How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test?	Way too many puzzles (too little time)
How fair do you think the rankings were?	Most players got scores that did not reflect their performance
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

@ 2012-11-18 7:06 PM (#8982 - in reply to #8980) (#8982) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2012-11-18 7:06 PM

prasanna16391 - 2012-11-18 7:01 PM

forcolin - 2012-11-18 6:27 PM

am I the only one which has replied to this questionaire?

I believe you're the only one who's posted it on the forum so far. I'm sure others have voted.

Should we say "first one", and "not only one"?

@ 2012-11-18 7:12 PM (#8983 - in reply to #8982) (#8983) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-11-18 7:12 PM

debmohanty - 2012-11-18 7:06 PM

Should we say "first one", and "not only one"?

"so far"