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@ 2011-07-06 3:00 PM (#5051 - in reply to #4980) (#5051) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-07-06 3:00 PM

thank you
i will try out those.
@ 2011-07-06 7:43 PM (#5052 - in reply to #5051) (#5052) Top

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detuned posted @ 2011-07-06 7:43 PM

Re suraromu/slalom, there are some good examples on Melon's Puzzles blog as well. I don;t recall making many suraromu puzzles, so perhaps other sources are a good idea if you want to get some practice in.

Re motris, I'm sort of taking the view from the other side of things. My own testing times for the larger puzzles vary slightly, but then my solving abilities between these 3 types also varies slightly. The fastest possible times are hopefully all about the same, and so then the theory is the participant can choose to sprint on their own terms. This obviously relaxes the whole accuracy of scientifically measuring everyone's performance relative to each other - but on the other hand should hopefully be a little more fun. For example, I've come across comments where yajilin is a bit of a love/hate type for many people. If they happen to love solving yajilin, then great, but if they don't, then they aren't going to be miserable about being forced to solve an arbitrary type as an apparent tie-breaker. The choice adds a little variability, but hopefully not too much.

@ 2011-07-07 8:48 PM (#5059 - in reply to #4980) (#5059) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-07-07 8:48 PM

just as a suggestion.
cant there be another way to answer LITS puzzle its confusing to count number of T's or S's we may miss out one.
answer key similar to NURIKABE or any other.


Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-07-08 7:36 AM
@ 2011-07-08 3:03 AM (#5060 - in reply to #4980) (#5060) Top

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detuned posted @ 2011-07-08 3:03 AM

Answer keys can be a fiddly business, and I'm not sure I'm entirely happy with the hashi one either. My tip for LITS is once you've completed the puzzle, to briefly spend some time writing the relevant letter on each of the tetrominoes (this doesn't take very long) and then answers will be relatively easy to read off. Promise!
@ 2011-07-08 1:38 PM (#5062 - in reply to #4980) (#5062) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-07-08 1:38 PM

ok no problem
@ 2011-07-08 8:53 PM (#5065 - in reply to #5062) (#5065) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-07-08 8:53 PM

Puzzle Booklets (one for Main Section, and a separate one for Marathon) uploaded

Main Section Puzzle pdf has 10 pages, including a cover page.
Marathon puzzle pdf has 4 pages, including a cover page. Note that Marathon puzzle pdf file has Landscape orientation.

Both pdf files have same password.
@ 2011-07-08 9:00 PM (#5066 - in reply to #4980) (#5066) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-07-08 9:00 PM

As discussed after Fillomino-Fillia test, a typo will cost 20% of the puzzle value. Of course, one gets 80% only if the author/organizers are certain that the puzzle was solved correctly, but a mistake was made during submission.
@ 2011-07-09 6:00 AM (#5067 - in reply to #4980) (#5067) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-07-09 6:00 AM

Nikoli Selection has started - Good luck to all.
@ 2011-07-09 7:57 AM (#5068 - in reply to #4980) (#5068) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-07-09 7:57 AM

Score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/M201107P1/score.asp

If you've not taken the test yet, you can check who all have taken the test in the score page.
If you've taken the test, you can check details of your submission, and others' scores. If you believe some puzzle is marked incorrectly, please use the score page to 'claim points'.
@ 2011-07-09 8:21 AM (#5069 - in reply to #4980) (#5069) Top

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Nehsb posted @ 2011-07-09 8:21 AM

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask for this, but can I have a manual override for a typo on the numberlink?
@ 2011-07-09 8:33 AM (#5072 - in reply to #5069) (#5072) Top

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vopani posted @ 2011-07-09 8:33 AM

Nehsb - 2011-07-09 8:21 AM

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask for this, but can I have a manual override for a typo on the numberlink?

Yes, this is the place to 'claim' typos.
@ 2011-07-09 9:00 AM (#5073 - in reply to #4980) (#5073) Top

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figonometry posted @ 2011-07-09 9:00 AM

My kingdom for five more minutes! At least I'm error-free this time. Thanks to all for the test.
@ 2011-07-09 9:27 AM (#5074 - in reply to #5069) (#5074) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-07-09 9:27 AM

Nehsb - 2011-07-09 8:21 AM

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask for this, but can I have a manual override for a typo on the numberlink?
Check updated score page.
@ 2011-07-09 10:25 AM (#5075 - in reply to #5074) (#5075) Top

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vopani posted @ 2011-07-09 10:25 AM

Very nice set of puzzles Tom! Thanks.
The answer key for LITS and Hashi should be made simpler if possible in subsequent tests.

Hashi Suggestions: http://logicmastersindia.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=354&p...
For LITS, maybe a 'Tapa-style' answer key for marked rows/columns would be suitable.

Edited by Rohan Rao 2011-07-09 10:26 AM
@ 2011-07-09 1:04 PM (#5076 - in reply to #5075) (#5076) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2011-07-09 1:04 PM

Nice group of puzzles, more, more!!

I Find the answer key for hashi and lits very simple indeed....can't be simpler...

by the way in shikaku I entered the column next (right) to the column A I know its stupid but I keep doing it.... any chances to have the points awarded?

stefano
@ 2011-07-09 1:14 PM (#5077 - in reply to #4980) (#5077) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-07-09 1:14 PM

All claims made in forum or made using the Score page will be settled. Please allow us few hours.
@ 2011-07-09 2:10 PM (#5078 - in reply to #4980) (#5078) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-07-09 2:10 PM

puzzles were excellent .
I njoyed a lot.
although could have done better.
would be waiting for nikoli 3..!!
@ 2011-07-09 6:24 PM (#5082 - in reply to #4980) (#5082) Top

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euklid posted @ 2011-07-09 6:24 PM

Thanks for the puzzles, great test!

If you can reconstruct all my answer entries then you will see that my latest entry was just overwriting one valid entry key (that I entered much earlier) by another. This could save me some seconds for the tiebreaker and one rank in the final table. :-)

Have fun,
Stefan

P.S.: I actually had a reason to overwrite my solution a second time. You can write me an email if you want to have an explanation. Here it would be a spoiler.
@ 2011-07-09 7:36 PM (#5083 - in reply to #5082) (#5083) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-07-09 7:36 PM

@euklid, please see my PM
@ 2011-07-09 9:17 PM (#5084 - in reply to #5076) (#5084) Top

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vopani posted @ 2011-07-09 9:17 PM

forcolin - 2011-07-09 1:04 PM

Nice group of puzzles, more, more!!

I Find the answer key for hashi and lits very simple indeed....can't be simpler...

by the way in shikaku I entered the column next (right) to the column A I know its stupid but I keep doing it.... any chances to have the points awarded?

stefano

The answer key for Hashi is simple, I agree. But I'm not convinced its the simplest. The problem is there's a good chance of a counting error. It requires the player to go through the entire grid carefully. And one can easily mistake a double bridge by a single one in counting (especially those with cumbersome handwriting).
There are some interesting suggestions in the answer key topic for Hashi.
@ 2011-07-09 10:11 PM (#5087 - in reply to #4980) (#5087) Top

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Gareth posted @ 2011-07-09 10:11 PM

I had to change computers part of the way through since mine lost its internet connection. The results page only shows those I entered on the second computer - can you add in those I submitted previously please? Thanks! :)
@ 2011-07-10 4:38 AM (#5088 - in reply to #4980) (#5088) Top

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reesylou posted @ 2011-07-10 4:38 AM

Yet another enjoyable test... unfortunately my printer ink died (thanks hubby for printing so many things and not telling me) so I had to transcribe most of the puzzles which slowed me down even further than my usual glacial pace.
@ 2011-07-10 5:01 AM (#5089 - in reply to #4980) (#5089) Top

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fractaled posted @ 2011-07-10 5:01 AM

Great test. Typo correction request for the Hashi: the solution I entered is the total number of horizontal bridges (so 2 * double horizontal bridges + 1 * single horizontal bridges).
@ 2011-07-10 5:03 AM (#5090 - in reply to #4980) (#5090) Top

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sanket posted @ 2011-07-10 5:03 AM

Nice puzzles(whatever i attempted) !
Made few really stupid errors while submitting the answers(Maybe im too sleepy at this hour!)
(Please consider them if possible!)
Errors:
1.Shikaku-submitted the column to the right of B arrow.
2.Numberlink-submitted the combination of R2 and R3(i dunno what was i looking at!)
Overall i had a good time solving !
All the best to all the remaining participants !
@ 2011-07-10 7:22 AM (#5091 - in reply to #5090) (#5091) Top

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motris posted @ 2011-07-10 7:22 AM

Very nice puzzles and a lot of fun solves to be found. Thanks Tom!
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