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Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 18th to 27th April 202536 posts • Page 2 of 2 • 1 2
@ 2025-04-26 12:23 PM (#33783 - in reply to #33782) (#33783) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-26 12:23 PM

kiwijam - 2025-04-26 3:57 AM

A question for Riad:

After reading Anurag's question, I think there are 2 ways to understand Name Hitori.
1) Are the words chosen by the contestant, using parentheses? 2) Or are the words chosen by wordlist only?

For example, my row is "KENDOWXYZ". This includes the letters "KEN" and "ENDO".
1) I know I am only allowed one word here. In the answer key I enter (KEN)DOWXYZ or K(ENDO)WXYZ. The other word is ignored, and I do not count it for my score.
or 2) This row breaks the rules. Even if I enter (KEN)DOWXYZ, the puzzle is invalid and I get no score.

So we all use the same rule, do you think 1) or 2) is correct?

James, example 1) using the name KEN ENDO is correct. If you specify only one word in parentheses, the answer will be accepted. It is not allowed to use parentheses like this: (K(EN)DO)WXYZ.
@ 2025-04-26 4:05 PM (#33785 - in reply to #33716) (#33785) Top

krasnosulinec1797



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krasnosulinec1797 posted @ 2025-04-26 4:05 PM

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@ 2025-04-26 6:33 PM (#33786 - in reply to #33716) (#33786) Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2025-04-26 6:33 PM

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@ 2025-04-26 10:24 PM (#33787 - in reply to #33786) (#33787) Top

Carlos



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Carlos posted @ 2025-04-26 10:24 PM

@anurag The example of "Name Hitori" contains the name "AOKI" without counting it among the valid words, since it overlaps "NAOKI". Nevertheless, the grid is considered to be valid. Hence, I guess that a valid grid can contain words overlapping other words, as long as they are not counted. At least, that is what I understand from the example.
Unfortunately, you're not the only one who misunderstood the first answer of Riad: this is my case too, so I understand your frustration.
@ 2025-04-27 12:51 AM (#33788 - in reply to #33785) (#33788) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-27 12:51 AM

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@ 2025-04-27 12:59 AM (#33789 - in reply to #33787) (#33789) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-27 12:59 AM

Carlos - 2025-04-26 10:24 PM

@anurag The example of "Name Hitori" contains the name "AOKI" without counting it among the valid words, since it overlaps "NAOKI". Nevertheless, the grid is considered to be valid. Hence, I guess that a valid grid can contain words overlapping other words, as long as they are not counted. At least, that is what I understand from the example.
Unfortunately, you're not the only one who misunderstood the first answer of Riad: this is my case too, so I understand your frustration.

Paul, thanks for your detailed answer to Anurag. The example is eloquent.
@ 2025-04-27 4:45 AM (#33790 - in reply to #33716) (#33790) Top

krasnosulinec1797



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krasnosulinec1797 posted @ 2025-04-27 4:45 AM

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