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Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 18th to 27th April 202551 posts • Page 2 of 3 • 1 2 3
@ 2025-04-26 6:33 PM (#33786 - in reply to #33716) (#33786) Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2025-04-26 6:33 PM

LOL%2c+this+is+a+debacle.++Admin%3a+please+delete+my+submission.+++I+do+not+want+to+enter+anymore.+Thank+you.+BTW%2c+the+reply+is+still+unclear+and+does+not+help.+The+last+reply+(to+me)+meant+something+diametrically+opposite.+Things+need+to+be+made+explicit+as+this+is+only+a+test+of+logic.
@ 2025-04-26 10:24 PM (#33787 - in reply to #33786) (#33787) Top

Carlos



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Carlos posted @ 2025-04-26 10:24 PM

@anurag The example of "Name Hitori" contains the name "AOKI" without counting it among the valid words, since it overlaps "NAOKI". Nevertheless, the grid is considered to be valid. Hence, I guess that a valid grid can contain words overlapping other words, as long as they are not counted. At least, that is what I understand from the example.
Unfortunately, you're not the only one who misunderstood the first answer of Riad: this is my case too, so I understand your frustration.
@ 2025-04-27 12:51 AM (#33788 - in reply to #33785) (#33788) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-27 12:51 AM

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@ 2025-04-27 12:59 AM (#33789 - in reply to #33787) (#33789) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-27 12:59 AM

Carlos - 2025-04-26 10:24 PM

@anurag The example of "Name Hitori" contains the name "AOKI" without counting it among the valid words, since it overlaps "NAOKI". Nevertheless, the grid is considered to be valid. Hence, I guess that a valid grid can contain words overlapping other words, as long as they are not counted. At least, that is what I understand from the example.
Unfortunately, you're not the only one who misunderstood the first answer of Riad: this is my case too, so I understand your frustration.

Paul, thanks for your detailed answer to Anurag. The example is eloquent.
@ 2025-04-27 4:45 AM (#33790 - in reply to #33716) (#33790) Top

krasnosulinec1797



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krasnosulinec1797 posted @ 2025-04-27 4:45 AM

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@ 2025-04-28 5:02 AM (#33792 - in reply to #33781) (#33792) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2025-04-28 5:02 AM

kiwijam - 2025-04-26 2:58 AM

A question for LMI:


Simple explanation here I think, unless I misunderstood the question. Two posts were pending approval as they were first time posts from people, and some of us were away for the weekend and slow to approve it.
@ 2025-04-28 7:05 AM (#33793 - in reply to #33716) (#33793) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2025-04-28 7:05 AM

Optimizer Submissions

Submissions to Optimizer puzzles here.

Puzzles are not checked for correctness. If you notice any incorrect submissions, please help Riad by reporting them.

Puzzle 10 : S not cross checked
Puzzle 11 : N not cross checked, Hitori not solved
Puzzle 12 : S, L not cross checked. puzzle not solved.
@ 2025-04-28 10:41 PM (#33795 - in reply to #33716) (#33795) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-28 10:41 PM

Preliminary+results+have+been+published%2E+%0D%0AI+ask+Christian+to+check+his+Hitori%2E+%0D%0ANikola+and+Du%D1%81%2C+please+check+your+answers+to+puzzle+12%2E+The+lines+should+not+overlap%2E+
@ 2025-04-29 4:02 PM (#33797 - in reply to #33716) (#33797) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2025-04-29 4:02 PM

Oh+wow%2C+thank+you+for+a+great+contest+Riad%21+The+puzzles+were+hard%2C+but+they+are+always+hard%2E+And+thank+you+to+all+the+contestants+with+short+names%2E+%F0%9F%98%8E%0D%0AI+don%27t+think+anybody+has+got+100+points+before%2E+If+it+is+useful+for+others%2C+I+will+share+some+thoughts+on+how+I+approached+them%2E%0D%0A%0D%0AOpti%2DSumdoku%3A+%0D%0AThe+first+step+was+to+find+a+grid+with+a+high+Samedoku+score%2E+I+looked+at+patterns+for+each+digit+separately%2E+It+is+not+possible+to+place+a+digit+in+9+cells+so+that+it+counts+18+times+to+the+sum+%28when+every+digit+can+see+another+digit+in+both+diagonal+directions%29%2E+The+best+possible+is+16+times+%28see+the+9s+in+my+solution%29%2E+But+not+all+digits+can+be+16+%2D+the+best+grid+overall+has+%7B16%2C+15%2C+15%2C+14%2C+14%2C+14%2C+14%2C+14%2C+14%7D+for+the+Samedoku%2E+I+think+Carlos+has+the+same+grid+as+me%2E%0D%0AThe+second+step+is+to+take+away+as+many+digits+as+possible%2E+Check+for+uniqueness%2C+try+another+digit%2E+Eventually+you+will+get+down+to+%7E22+clues%2E%0D%0AThe+last+step+is+to+choose+which+digit+goes+in+each+part+of+the+grid+pattern%2E+Calculate+16%2F15%2F14+minus+the+number+of+hints+remaining+%28e%2Eg%2E+9+gets+the+best+place+%3D+16%2D1%2C+8+gets+the+14%2D0%2C+7+gets+15%2D2%29%2E+%0D%0APlease+don%27t+try+to+solve+my+classic+sudoku%21+It+is+unique%2C+but+it+needs+a+lot+of+Xwings%2C+Ywings%2C+chains%2E%2E%2E+%F0%9F%98%AD%0D%0A%0D%0AName+Hitori%3A%0D%0AI+decided+to+use+all+the+2%2Dletter+and+3+words%2C+and+many+4s%2C+and+I+ignored+all+5%5FPLUS%5F+words%2E%0D%0AIt+is+easy+to+have+too+many+blacks%2C+or+not+enough+blacks%2C+so+I+started+by+trying+to+intersect+many+4%2Dwords+together%2E%0D%0AI+found+a+4x4+with+6+4%2Dwords+inside%2C+I+put+that+in+the+bottom%2Dleft+corner%2E+I+found+another+4x4+with+6+words+inside%2E+When+I+put+that+in+the+bottom%2Dright%2C+the+common+letters+%28e%2Eg%2E+ADEM%2DENDO%29+helped+fill+90%25+of+those+cells+with+black+or+white%2E+I+filled+the+top%2Dright+with+4%2Dwords+too%2C+sometimes+choosing+letters+for+Hitori%2C+sometimes+choosing+for+intersection%2E+At+the+end+I+put+the+final+2%2D+and+3%2Dwords+in+the+gaps%2E+I+had+two+empty+cells%2E+One+I+used+to+finish+the+Hitori%2C+and+one+was+a+bonus+point%2E%0D%0A%0D%0AThreads+With+Knots%3A%0D%0AI+wanted+to+start+with+long+diagonal+lines+for+the+1st%2C+3rd%2C+5th%2C+7th+sections+to+get+a+high+length%2E+I+put+small+numbers+near+the+corners%2E+The+8%2C5%2C3%2C7+clues+define+knots+1+to+7%2E+The+2+clue+is+not+needed%2C+but+it+did+give+lots+of+empty+squares+on+the+long+diagonal%2E+%0D%0AThen+I+switched+to+finding+a+unique+solution+with+small+clues%2E+Thread+length+was+less+important+now%2E+Putting+clues+on+the+same+parity%2Fcolour+diagonals+helped+too%2E+I+found+two+medium+numbers+%289%2C+13%29+to+finish%2E%0D%0ASP1+and+EKBM+both+had+much+better+clues+than+me%2C+but+my+long+thread+was+important%2E+It+is+possible+to+have+length+%3E+100%2C+but+then+you+need+too+many+big+clues+to+make+it+unique%2E
@ 2025-04-29 10:12 PM (#33798 - in reply to #33716) (#33798) Top

SP1



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SP1 posted @ 2025-04-29 10:12 PM

Riad, thanks for organizing a great contest!
And congratulations to kiwijam for a perfect win!!!
Thanks also to the LMI team for running the event.
I had not participated in this contest for a few years, but I really enjoyed it.

I especially like prob. 7 and 12.
I didn't have time to fix my solution for 12 because it was the last day of the contest when I realized that the length of lines was important.I regret that.
Anyway, I think prob.12 is a really good optimization setup!

I like optimization puzzles very much, and I am very happy to see the April Contest where I can enjoy them.
I'm planning to hold an optimization contest at a local site in Japan.
I hope that the fun of optimization will spread more and more.

Edited by SP1 2025-04-29 10:13 PM
@ 2025-04-30 12:43 AM (#33799 - in reply to #33716) (#33799) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2025-04-30 12:43 AM

Thanks a lot to everyone!
Congratulations to James, Takuma and Paul!
Success in optimization problems in 2025 earned more points than ever. James had a very impressive victory. Only two participants managed to score points in all optimizations. Takuma, great result! Interestingly written in the two posts above. I wish Takuma success in organizing the optimization contest in Japan.
There were questions like: Why ban word overlapping in Hitori? I think through the answer format so that it is convenient for the organizers. A lot of parentheses can prevent Deb from forming grids with solutions. For clarity, it is better to place the parentheses sequentially. Thanks to the LMI team, Deb and Prasanna, and a special thanks to Kota for the long-term support!
@ 2025-05-03 4:09 PM (#33805 - in reply to #33716) (#33805) Top

pinkagape



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pinkagape posted @ 2025-05-03 4:09 PM

Thanks Riad and well done James! Are there solutions available to the puzzles? I had a tough time with some of them and was hoping to work through them with the solutions.
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