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Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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CompletionistDan
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 1:25 AM (#26385 - in reply to #26370) (#26385) Top




Posts: 1

Location: United Kingdom
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


mackokajka
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 2:36 AM (#26386 - in reply to #26370) (#26386) Top




Posts: 5

Location: Slovakia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ghirsch
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 5:11 AM (#26387 - in reply to #26370) (#26387) Top




Posts: 88
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Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 6:43 AM (#26388 - in reply to #26370) (#26388) Top


WSPC Organizer

Posts: 561
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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Wonderfull set of Puzzles.
That's a good beginning to the year 2019.
Thanks Rohan and LMI.
My favourite were Wranglers and Battleships.
It could have been better for me, as I spent 27 min just for last puzzle Wranglers. But at least managed to finish it in time. So happy for that.
But Wranglers was real workout, there were so many possibilites i was missing. Finally with the help of few tricks i grinded it out.
Thanks again.
Happy New Year to everyone !!!
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 9:02 AM (#26389 - in reply to #26370) (#26389) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 4:17 PM (#26390 - in reply to #26370) (#26390) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


JonaS2010
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-05 9:15 PM (#26391 - in reply to #26370) (#26391) Top




Posts: 17

Location: Germany
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Nilz
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-06 12:11 AM (#26392 - in reply to #26370) (#26392) Top




Posts: 29
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Location: United Kingdom
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Felt like there were more rows/columns that had arrows (for the answer keys) than normal. Also a bit weird that some of them had letters on and some didn't (unless there's something odd going on with my printing!). But the puzzles themselves were mostly nice, anyway. :-)
I hope the level of difficulty will be consistent across all the rounds, I'm much more likely to compete if I know/ hope I only need to set aside one hour instead of 90 minutes.
WA1729
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-06 1:20 AM (#26393 - in reply to #26370) (#26393) Top


Shading and Loops (PR 2016/17) Author

Posts: 36
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Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Favorite Puzzles:

9 Four Winds
11 Eight Winds
15 Battleships
21 Wranglers

Thank you!
udoroh
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-06 2:37 AM (#26394 - in reply to #26370) (#26394) Top




Posts: 10

Location: Poland
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kiwijam
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-06 4:32 AM (#26395 - in reply to #26370) (#26395) Top




Posts: 147
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Location: New Zealand
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I had #14 marked as wrong, so I double checked my answer and then wrote an email to the admins as instructed... before finally noticing a digit error in my answer key. Oops! I was too distracted by the message. :)
detuned
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-06 10:47 PM (#26396 - in reply to #26370) (#26396) Top




Posts: 151
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Location: United Kingdom
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


TiiT
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 12:16 AM (#26397 - in reply to #26370) (#26397) Top




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Location: Estonia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


It was a nice set of puzzles, but really... the answer keys were confusing. I spent quite remarkable time filling the answer keys - and the worst one was fourwinds in my opinion.
GaS
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 5:17 AM (#26398 - in reply to #26370) (#26398) Top




Posts: 17

Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 5:26 AM (#26399 - in reply to #26370) (#26399) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


forcolin
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 6:27 AM (#26400 - in reply to #26370) (#26400) Top





Posts: 156
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Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Para
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 9:42 AM (#26401 - in reply to #26370) (#26401) Top




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Location: The Netherlands
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


mstang
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:12 AM (#26402 - in reply to #26370) (#26402) Top





Posts: 49
2020
Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


priyambhushan
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:20 AM (#26403 - in reply to #26370) (#26403) Top




Posts: 10

Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ABcDexter
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 11:24 AM (#26404 - in reply to #26370) (#26404) Top




Posts: 12

Location: INDIA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Kithyane
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 11:59 AM (#26405 - in reply to #26370) (#26405) Top




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Location: France
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Four Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was a very nice test, with good puzzle quality :)

On the subject of answer keys, it was hard for certain puzzles to generate and check the answer key.

In general, I feel like answer keys that ask for full rows/columns are better : easier to check for competitors, and easier to auto-check for mistyping (length, sum...)

The hardest for me was the "tents" answer key : I found it very hard and slow to count "longest non-tent area", as trees are "occupied cells" and look more like tents cells than blank cells.
I think I'd rather have to copy full rows (something like XOOXOX, with X tents and 0 non-tent), than what we had in this test.
Alternatively, making it a "battleship like" answer key with leftmost tent for each row would at least unify the format with another placement puzzle.

Four|Eight winds and [wr|]anglers weren't easy as well but not as bothersome as tents.

Of course, all the above does not take into account the primary role of answer keys, which is to check the correctness of the players's solution, so I have no pretention to offer a perfect solution. I just wanted to give my prespective on this subject :)
Panni
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 3:44 PM (#26406 - in reply to #26370) (#26406) Top




Posts: 5

Location: Hungary
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kishy72
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 4:25 PM (#26407 - in reply to #26370) (#26407) Top




Posts: 364
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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I had great fun solving the puzzles.Answer keys for four Winds and Eight winds (length of longest line segment) were too confusing to me.As I hadn't looked at the answer keys before starting the test , I opened the IB and understood how the answer key worked which took some time.Tents' too could have been better .But this apart, a great set.

Still struggling to solve the left out wranglers (14 pointer) .I have just 2 clues remaining (10 & 8)with rest all fitting well.But just unable to reach a solution. Breaking my head over it :-p

Favourite puzzles are Battleships (8 pointer), Hitori (3 pointer) and Area Division (10 points).

Thanks Rohan .Nicely constructed !
forcolin
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 8:15 PM (#26408 - in reply to #26370) (#26408) Top





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I also found the puzzles very good and with the right balance easy-difficult. Got through most of the easy ones very quickly and after 41 minutes with only 4 puzzles left to solve I started to key in my answers. But it took me more than 10 minutes just to file the answer keys for 18 puzzles! Far too long!! Then I solved three more puzzles quickly and then.... the last wrangler! 22 minutes left, I got the grasp of it relatively quickly but was stuck with the bottom left corner and the last two clues.... until I saw the light with only two minute to go.
Could have been a nearly perfect round. At least it has been a round in which I could complete the task. Doesn't happen often, when it happens is exhilarating. Thanks Rohan for an exciting contest.
pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:02 PM (#26409 - in reply to #26370) (#26409) Top




Posts: 35
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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Really enjoyed this test.
I liked the 4 winds and the 8 winds sets most of all.
Weirdly, I got the 8 pointer Battleships in less than 1 minute,whereas the 4 pointer one took me quite a while.

Didnt have much time to finish the wranglers.

Anglers answer key was a pain tbh,counting the number of turns took a while.

Thanks to Rohan for an enjoyable test :)
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