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Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 12:16 AM (#26397 - in reply to #26370) (#26397) Top




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Location: Estonia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


It was a nice set of puzzles, but really... the answer keys were confusing. I spent quite remarkable time filling the answer keys - and the worst one was fourwinds in my opinion.
GaS
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 5:17 AM (#26398 - in reply to #26370) (#26398) Top




Posts: 17

Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 5:26 AM (#26399 - in reply to #26370) (#26399) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


forcolin
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 6:27 AM (#26400 - in reply to #26370) (#26400) Top





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Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Para
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 9:42 AM (#26401 - in reply to #26370) (#26401) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


mstang
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:12 AM (#26402 - in reply to #26370) (#26402) Top





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Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


priyambhushan
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:20 AM (#26403 - in reply to #26370) (#26403) Top




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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


ABcDexter
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 11:24 AM (#26404 - in reply to #26370) (#26404) Top




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Location: INDIA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Kithyane
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 11:59 AM (#26405 - in reply to #26370) (#26405) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Four Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was a very nice test, with good puzzle quality :)

On the subject of answer keys, it was hard for certain puzzles to generate and check the answer key.

In general, I feel like answer keys that ask for full rows/columns are better : easier to check for competitors, and easier to auto-check for mistyping (length, sum...)

The hardest for me was the "tents" answer key : I found it very hard and slow to count "longest non-tent area", as trees are "occupied cells" and look more like tents cells than blank cells.
I think I'd rather have to copy full rows (something like XOOXOX, with X tents and 0 non-tent), than what we had in this test.
Alternatively, making it a "battleship like" answer key with leftmost tent for each row would at least unify the format with another placement puzzle.

Four|Eight winds and [wr|]anglers weren't easy as well but not as bothersome as tents.

Of course, all the above does not take into account the primary role of answer keys, which is to check the correctness of the players's solution, so I have no pretention to offer a perfect solution. I just wanted to give my prespective on this subject :)
Panni
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 3:44 PM (#26406 - in reply to #26370) (#26406) Top




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Location: Hungary
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kishy72
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 4:25 PM (#26407 - in reply to #26370) (#26407) Top




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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Battleships
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I had great fun solving the puzzles.Answer keys for four Winds and Eight winds (length of longest line segment) were too confusing to me.As I hadn't looked at the answer keys before starting the test , I opened the IB and understood how the answer key worked which took some time.Tents' too could have been better .But this apart, a great set.

Still struggling to solve the left out wranglers (14 pointer) .I have just 2 clues remaining (10 & 8)with rest all fitting well.But just unable to reach a solution. Breaking my head over it :-p

Favourite puzzles are Battleships (8 pointer), Hitori (3 pointer) and Area Division (10 points).

Thanks Rohan .Nicely constructed !
forcolin
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 8:15 PM (#26408 - in reply to #26370) (#26408) Top





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I also found the puzzles very good and with the right balance easy-difficult. Got through most of the easy ones very quickly and after 41 minutes with only 4 puzzles left to solve I started to key in my answers. But it took me more than 10 minutes just to file the answer keys for 18 puzzles! Far too long!! Then I solved three more puzzles quickly and then.... the last wrangler! 22 minutes left, I got the grasp of it relatively quickly but was stuck with the bottom left corner and the last two clues.... until I saw the light with only two minute to go.
Could have been a nearly perfect round. At least it has been a round in which I could complete the task. Doesn't happen often, when it happens is exhilarating. Thanks Rohan for an exciting contest.
pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-07 10:02 PM (#26409 - in reply to #26370) (#26409) Top




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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Really enjoyed this test.
I liked the 4 winds and the 8 winds sets most of all.
Weirdly, I got the 8 pointer Battleships in less than 1 minute,whereas the 4 pointer one took me quite a while.

Didnt have much time to finish the wranglers.

Anglers answer key was a pain tbh,counting the number of turns took a while.

Thanks to Rohan for an enjoyable test :)
amitsowani
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 9:33 AM (#26410 - in reply to #26370) (#26410) Top



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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 12:10 PM (#26411 - in reply to #26370) (#26411) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 1:58 PM (#26412 - in reply to #26370) (#26412) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Elyot
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 3:23 PM (#26413 - in reply to #26370) (#26413) Top




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Location: Canada
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Some grids need more margins, like grid 2 in wranglers has its heading so close to grid 1 that it looks like the 22 and 14 could be fish for grid one.

2/5/8 (especially 8) seemed undervalued to me but I guess I'm not really fast at grinding easy puzzles on large grids.

Very nice contest!
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 6:01 PM (#26415 - in reply to #26370) (#26415) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Eight Winds
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


puzzler05
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-08 7:49 PM (#26416 - in reply to #26370) (#26416) Top




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Location: korea rep
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Wranglers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Well the overall puzzles were pretty good,but puzzle 10 has multiple answers and puzzle 19 was too simple and easy.
And summiting the answer key took so long.
MrWutki
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-09 1:16 AM (#26418 - in reply to #26370) (#26418) Top




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Location: Italy
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Area Division
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys were horrible
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Administrator
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-09 8:44 AM (#26419 - in reply to #26370) (#26419) Top


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Congratulations to Endo Ken, Tomoya Kimura and Bram de Laat for taking the top three places. They were heads and shoulders above the rest of the competition.

Amongst Indian participants, Congratulations to Prasanna Seshadri, Amit Sowani and Swaroop Guggilam for taking the top 3 places. Also, they were the only three to complete all puzzles.

Of the 188 participants, 37 were from India, 29 from Japan and 17 from USA. Andrey Lemesh (Russia) was the first to start the test while Stephanie D'Souza (India) was the last person to start the test. 54 participants completed the set within the allotted time. The median score of the test was 75.

Thanks Rohan Rao for the puzzles!

Participants may share feedback on the results page and rate the puzzles on the contest page.
carburra
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-09 2:20 PM (#26420 - in reply to #26370) (#26420) Top





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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


wgryciuk
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-09 2:54 PM (#26421 - in reply to #26370) (#26421) Top




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I took participation in Puzzle Ramayan (4th-8th of January) for the first time after long break and I am very embarrassed, beause I can't open a "score page" on my notebook and my smartphone as well and I am not among 300 best solvers, so up to now I don't know how many points I've obtained and on what position I've finished. So I probably will resign to take participation in any of the next competitions, nevertheless I took participation in World Wide Puzzle Championship in Eger (Hungary) in 2005.

Wojciech Gryciuk
swaroop2011
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-09 11:05 PM (#26422 - in reply to #26421) (#26422) Top


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wgryciuk - 2019-01-09 2:54 PM

I took participation in Puzzle Ramayan (4th-8th of January) for the first time after long break and I am very embarrassed, beause I can't open a "score page" on my notebook and my smartphone as well and I am not among 300 best solvers, so up to now I don't know how many points I've obtained and on what position I've finished. So I probably will resign to take participation in any of the next competitions, nevertheless I took participation in World Wide Puzzle Championship in Eger (Hungary) in 2005.

Wojciech Gryciuk


Hi Wojciech,
You have scored 33.4 Points. You are at #148 position out of 188 participants.
I would request you to please do not stop participating.
Regarding the score page, you would need an adobe flash plugin in the browser. Smartphone browser does not support that. Not only you but even we can't open it in the smartphone. I don't know if notebook as well supports it, so please check that. Best way to access score page is through laptop browsers like Google Chrome, Mozilla, Opera etc.
If you have further difficulties please feel free to ask in the forum, we would be happy to assist you.

wgryciuk
Subject: Re: Classics and Evergreens - 4th - 8th Jan 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-01-10 4:27 AM (#26423 - in reply to #26422) (#26423) Top




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Location: Poland
Thank you for your suggestions. I've just tried to open "score page" using Google Chrome and I've opened it succesfully. Of course I'll try to take participation in next competition, because it'll be a good preperation before semifinals of Polish Championship in Puzzles and Sudoku, which every year are organised in February.

Best regards,

Wojciech Gryciuk
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