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@ 2018-01-23 12:28 PM (#24099 - in reply to #24029) (#24099) Top

ghirsch



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ghirsch posted @ 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.
@ 2018-01-23 4:31 PM (#24101 - in reply to #24099) (#24101) Top

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amitsowani posted @ 2018-01-23 4:31 PM

ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.


Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.
@ 2018-01-24 11:28 AM (#24103 - in reply to #24101) (#24103) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-24 11:28 AM

ghirsch - 2018-01-23 12:28 PM

Sorry, I meant a path of open doors. To be honest, the statement "all rooms are interconnected by doors" seems meaningless since it sounds like every border between cells is a door (open if you can see through it, and closed if not). Though maybe I'm still missing something.

amitsowani - 2018-01-23 4:31 PM

Yes the rule is not clear to me as well. Can you clarify if the usual rule for Doors puzzle, that any two rooms should have a path between them through open doors (or no set of rooms should be isolated through closed doors) is required for solving the puzzles or not.

Rules have been modified "Each cell in the grid represents a room. Some doors are open, while the others are closed. The number inside a room indicates the number of rooms that can be seen (through open doors) from it in all four directions, including itself. All rooms are interconnected by open doors. Draw the closed doors."

Answer keys have been modified: "Enter number of vertical closed doors in the marked rows and number of horizontal closed doors in the marked columns."

Updated IB shall be uploaded later today.
@ 2018-01-24 7:08 PM (#24106 - in reply to #24029) (#24106) Top

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vopani posted @ 2018-01-24 7:08 PM

Rules of Doors (a.k.a. Vista) puzzle is exactly same as in WPC 2017 Instruction Booklet.
@ 2018-01-25 3:18 PM (#24108 - in reply to #24029) (#24108) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 3:18 PM

A lookback at past winners of PR 'Classics' contests:


@ 2018-01-25 10:05 PM (#24109 - in reply to #24029) (#24109) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 10:05 PM

Updated Instructions Booklet


The updated IB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

The only change is the rewording of instructions for Doors puzzle.

@ 2018-01-25 11:10 PM (#24110 - in reply to #24109) (#24110) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 11:10 PM

Puzzle Booklet

The PB is available now at http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201801/

Wish you happy solving!

@ 2018-01-25 11:54 PM (#24111 - in reply to #24110) (#24111) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-25 11:54 PM

Good luck to all participants!

The test has now started.
@ 2018-01-26 12:09 AM (#24112 - in reply to #24029) (#24112) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-26 12:09 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-26 2:05 AM (#24113 - in reply to #24029) (#24113) Top

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WA1729 posted @ 2018-01-26 2:05 AM

Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!
@ 2018-01-26 2:19 AM (#24114 - in reply to #24029) (#24114) Top

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WA1729 posted @ 2018-01-26 2:19 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Favorite Puzzles:

Tents 7
Black and White 12
Number TriLink 20
Black and White and Grey 22

Thank you!
@ 2018-01-26 2:57 AM (#24115 - in reply to #24029) (#24115) Top

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kousek-nebe posted @ 2018-01-26 2:57 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)
@ 2018-01-26 3:00 AM (#24116 - in reply to #24029) (#24116) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-26 3:00 AM

Puzzle Booklet updated

During a change in puzzle booklet to optimize some formatting elements, some givens were missed in a puzzle making it non-unique. This change has been rolled back and we have reverted to the earlier version at 2:55 AM IST (5 minutes prior to this post). As no Indians were impacted, this is the best solution possible at the moment. We apologize to the international participants who tried out the puzzle while it had multiple solutions. If you wish, we can remove your score from LMI ratings consideration.

@ 2018-01-26 3:03 AM (#24117 - in reply to #24115) (#24117) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-01-26 3:03 AM

kousek-nebe - 2018-01-26 2:57 AM

Are you sure that puzzle no.3 numberlink has unique solution? ;-)


WA1729 - 2018-01-26 2:05 AM

Is puzzle 3 supposed to have 10s in the lower left and lower right corner? It didn't seem unique to me but worked nicely with those added. Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks for a good test!


Explained above. Apologies for the inconvenience. We request that this isn't considered in the puzzle quality rating since there is a best author prize this year! :)
@ 2018-01-26 1:15 PM (#24119 - in reply to #24029) (#24119) Top

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auroux posted @ 2018-01-26 1:15 PM

I don't mean to be unappreciative, but I didn't particularly enjoy the mechanics of all the grids were one idea was repeated over and over -- it is funny once in a while but here it made solving quite repetitive and not so enjoyable. (Hitori 5 and 6, tents 8 and 9, loop finder 15, doors 17: each of them had a very nice and rather original underlying idea in principle, but in practice these grids were just not fun to solve). This is a case where trying to have original aesthetics / themes in the puzzle construction actually hurts the puzzle quality in my opinion.

Denis
@ 2018-01-27 4:21 AM (#24120 - in reply to #24029) (#24120) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 4:21 AM

 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 5:56 AM (#24121 - in reply to #24029) (#24121) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2018-01-27 5:56 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Wonderful Test !!
Actually went smooth for being starter.
I completed 20 puzzles in 40 min but took like 15 min in just the Doors and BWG big ones.
At the end entering answer keys was little hectic.

My favourite was of course Doors Big and BWG big.

Thanks Rohan for wonderful test.
@ 2018-01-27 8:19 AM (#24122 - in reply to #24029) (#24122) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 8:19 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 1:07 PM (#24124 - in reply to #24029) (#24124) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2018-01-27 1:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 6:43 PM (#24125 - in reply to #24029) (#24125) Top

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Gotroch posted @ 2018-01-27 6:43 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 9:18 PM (#24126 - in reply to #24029) (#24126) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 9:18 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 9:37 PM (#24127 - in reply to #24029) (#24127) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-27 9:37 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-27 11:07 PM (#24128 - in reply to #24029) (#24128) Top

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Joo M.Y posted @ 2018-01-27 11:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2018-01-28 2:05 AM (#24129 - in reply to #24029) (#24129) Top

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JonaS2010 posted @ 2018-01-28 2:05 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Doors
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2018-01-28 5:05 AM (#24130 - in reply to #24029) (#24130) Top

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paramesis posted @ 2018-01-28 5:05 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Loop Finder
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I was disappointed with the raster graphics on Black and White and Grey and on Tents (pixellation was really ugly to look at). Also, the interior grid lines in Doors were too dark and thick to be solved in the manner the IB suggests. I ended up drawing X's over borders that contained closed doors and perpendicular lines through doors that were open to create a network of lines. Perhaps slitherlink-style dots would have been better?

Thanks for a great set!
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