@ 2018-01-12 8:41 PM (#23991 - in reply to #23957) (#23991) Top | |||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-12 8:41 PM
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@ 2018-01-12 10:56 PM (#23992 - in reply to #23957) (#23992) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 22 Country : ITALY | lenzo posted @ 2018-01-12 10:56 PM
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@ 2018-01-13 12:56 AM (#23993 - in reply to #23957) (#23993) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 17 Country : Hungary | Gyuszi13 posted @ 2018-01-13 12:56 AM
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@ 2018-01-13 11:18 AM (#23994 - in reply to #23957) (#23994) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 18 Country : India | aditi2302 posted @ 2018-01-13 11:18 AM
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@ 2018-01-13 2:55 PM (#23995 - in reply to #23957) (#23995) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : India | SEREnSEALS posted @ 2018-01-13 2:55 PM
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@ 2018-01-13 6:10 PM (#23996 - in reply to #23957) (#23996) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 8 Country : France | geronimo92 posted @ 2018-01-13 6:10 PM
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@ 2018-01-13 6:31 PM (#23997 - in reply to #23957) (#23997) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 55 Country : India | pranavmanu posted @ 2018-01-13 6:31 PM
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@ 2018-01-13 7:21 PM (#23999 - in reply to #23957) (#23999) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 43 Country : United States | davep posted @ 2018-01-13 7:21 PM
Enjoyed the test, nice puzzle designs! | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-13 7:37 PM (#24000 - in reply to #23957) (#24000) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2018-01-13 7:37 PM
A great start to SM 2018 ! I hope the trend continues in all respects and aspects :).I had a very smooth run during the test.Not breaking any sudokus helped a lot. I really enjoyed solving the Linked Classics(14 points) ,overlapping(12) and Expanded(7) as well.Consecutive(11) was the hardest to crack for me following by XV(9).I felt that the set is on the harder side and should be difficult to complete but there was no doubt about the fun quotient.I enjoyed a lot .Well done Akash ! | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-13 8:17 PM (#24001 - in reply to #23957) (#24001) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 3 Country : India | Llewellyn posted @ 2018-01-13 8:17 PM XV Sudoku 1 has an error i guess... Ive managed to solve the sudoku with the adjacent "x"'s and yet the solution says wrong - 136452 452361 645123 213645 324516 561234 | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-13 8:22 PM (#24002 - in reply to #24001) (#24002) Top | |||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2018-01-13 8:22 PM Llewellyn - 2018-01-13 8:17 PM XV Sudoku 1 has an error i guess... Ive managed to solve the sudoku with the adjacent "x"'s and yet the solution says wrong - 136452 452361 645123 213645 324516 561234 In your solution, in column 1 first two cells are 1 and 4. They add to 5 but there is no V symbol. | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-13 8:28 PM (#24003 - in reply to #23957) (#24003) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 3 Country : India | Llewellyn posted @ 2018-01-13 8:28 PM Average Sudoku 1 - also showing wrong solution 125436 (4 is the average of 5+3) 364125 456312 213654 632541 541263 :( :( | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-13 9:51 PM (#24004 - in reply to #24003) (#24004) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 43 Country : United States | davep posted @ 2018-01-13 9:51 PM In your 4th row, the last three digits are 6 5 4. 5 is the average of 4 and 6, but there is no line there. (also 5th column, reading from the top 3 2 1) Edited by davep 2018-01-13 9:53 PM | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-14 12:26 AM (#24005 - in reply to #23957) (#24005) Top | |||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-14 12:26 AM
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@ 2018-01-14 4:03 AM (#24006 - in reply to #23957) (#24006) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 17 Country : Poland | udoroh posted @ 2018-01-14 4:03 AM
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@ 2018-01-14 11:17 AM (#24009 - in reply to #23957) (#24009) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 44 Country : Thailand | MrLiang posted @ 2018-01-14 11:17 AM
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@ 2018-01-14 12:16 PM (#24010 - in reply to #23957) (#24010) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 71 Country : India | shera90 posted @ 2018-01-14 12:16 PM
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@ 2018-01-14 5:31 PM (#24011 - in reply to #23957) (#24011) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 30 Country : Poland | margareta456 posted @ 2018-01-14 5:31 PM
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@ 2018-01-14 5:38 PM (#24012 - in reply to #23957) (#24012) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 23 Country : India | sunderramanv posted @ 2018-01-14 5:38 PM
The layout of the Overlapping Sudoku was different from the sample sudoku. This created a little confusion. May be the intent itself was to find out which boxes are overlapping. It would have been helpful, if the similar layout (Overlapping Sudoku) was provided in the sample also | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM (#24013 - in reply to #23957) (#24013) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 22 Country : Germany | JonaS2010 posted @ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM
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@ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM (#24014 - in reply to #23957) (#24014) Top | |||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2018-01-14 5:40 PM
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@ 2018-01-14 6:22 PM (#24015 - in reply to #24012) (#24015) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2018-01-14 6:22 PM sunderramanv - 2018-01-14 5:38 PM The layout of the Overlapping Sudoku was different from the sample sudoku. This created a little confusion. May be the intent itself was to find out which boxes are overlapping. It would have been helpful, if the similar layout (Overlapping Sudoku) was provided in the sample also Good point. The IB puzzle layout was intentionally kept different from the PB puzzle in this case. The puzzle itself was very easy, though. I don't think it would have affected much solving-wise, except for the surprise in the visual part of layout. | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-14 6:33 PM (#24016 - in reply to #23957) (#24016) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 225 Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2018-01-14 6:33 PM Good puzzles, but really not a huge fan of 6x6 puzzles that are actually non-trivial. I feel the best strategy is to trial-and-error through them since they are hardly worth any points rather than logically working them out (which takes longer). When I look at the 6x6 XV or the 6x6 Consecutive, I am not convinced that these are great introductions for solvers before they tackle the larger 9x9. I think the reason they are worth a lot less is because they are more prone to lucky guessers. I suggest either: A/ having it worth more, since the steps are non-straightforward or B/ have the 6x6 actually be simpler since they are worth way less points. | ||||||||||||
@ 2018-01-14 6:36 PM (#24017 - in reply to #23957) (#24017) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 25 Country : South Korea | Kwaka posted @ 2018-01-14 6:36 PM
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@ 2018-01-14 10:55 PM (#24018 - in reply to #24016) (#24018) Top | |||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2018-01-14 10:55 PM tamz29 - 2018-01-14 6:33 PM Good puzzles, but really not a huge fan of 6x6 puzzles that are actually non-trivial. I feel the best strategy is to trial-and-error through them since they are hardly worth any points rather than logically working them out (which takes longer). When I look at the 6x6 XV or the 6x6 Consecutive, I am not convinced that these are great introductions for solvers before they tackle the larger 9x9. I think the reason they are worth a lot less is because they are more prone to lucky guessers. I suggest either: A/ having it worth more, since the steps are non-straightforward or B/ have the 6x6 actually be simpler since they are worth way less points. This is an interesting point to discuss. So first of all, at least for this contest, the test solvers have solved the 6x6s and 9x9s logically. So guesswork did not factor into the timings, and the points were calculated and assigned based on the timings and not any external factors. So in that sense, I'd say at least in theory that they weren't intentionally undervalued or given a lower value 'because' of a quicker solving path via guesswork. So I don't think A can be done here since it would just be random subjective overvaluing. But about them not being great introductions, I would love to discuss further because I see it going both ways. I think that if there is an introduction, an intermediate and then a final level, then what you say is definitely the way to go because then we can have the intermediate preparing solvers to tackle the regular difficulties while the introduction can be easy to be most approachable. But since we just have a 6x6 directly leading into a 9x9, a straightforward 6x6 leading into a difficult 9x9 doesn't do much in preparing you for it. So personally I think it is fine to have some easy ones and some difficult ones among the 6x6 variants within the format used here, to give options both of approachable variants and of variants where, if you attempt the 6x6 logically, you'll be better equipped to deal with higher levels and difficulties. |