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forcolin
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Country : ITALY | just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?
Edited by forcolin 2016-01-21 12:42 AM
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | forcolin - 2016-01-21 12:40 AM
just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?
Yes you are correct regarding heyawacky.
Regarding Lakes, Its Nurikabe without connectivity rule and without 2x2 rule. |
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kishy72
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Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2016-01-22 3:45 PM Any beginner level tips and strategies for Crazy pavement ? I attempted a couple of easy puzzles from Janko which gave me the impression that there are not many tricks in the puzzle.So,I jumped to a bigger sized puzzle where I was clearly clueless .The grid was 12X12 and the start was really difficult with bigger valued clues.... |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | Can you post a link to this specific puzzle? |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | forcolin - 2016-01-21 12:40 AM
just to clarify. A heyawacky is a heyawake with irregular (not rectangular) shapes. All other rules are the same. Correct?
ALso. A lakes is a Nurikabe without the requirement of the black cells to be all connected. Correct?
The only rule to be careful about with Heyawacky is that Heyawake is generally worded as "rooms" for the spanning rule and Heyawacky as "borders". This is mainly because the same irregular region can wrap around two borders. For example a U pentomino is allowed to have both its "ends" unshaded and the cell in between them unshaded by Nikoli Heyawake rules which use "rooms", but not allowed by Heyawacky rules using "borders". |
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Country : India | Points TableInstruction Booklet is re-uploaded with points table. Here it is for your quick reference.
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | kishy72 - 2016-01-22 3:45 PM
Any beginner level tips and strategies for Crazy pavement ? I attempted a couple of easy puzzles from Janko which gave me the impression that there are not many tricks in the puzzle.So,I jumped to a bigger sized puzzle where I was clearly clueless .The grid was 12X12 and the start was really difficult with bigger valued clues....
Please share the puzzles, so that we can help you.
In general one tip I would give is doing some math for each row/column which has clue. For e.g. If you consider the IB example: For 1st row, the combinations of shading available is 1+2+4, and the clue is "5". So you clearly know it has to be 1+4. So you can keep doing like that. This will make your things easy.
Secondly, sometimes try looking for combined clues together for multiple rows/columns.
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | All the best everyone. :) |
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drsteve
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Country : United Kingdom | drsteve posted @ 2016-01-23 3:03 AM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many medium difficult puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Windows | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A fun test - on the one hand, I found it a bit easy, on the other, it was nice to finish one of these for once. |
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An LMI player
| An LMI player posted @ 2016-01-23 5:03 AM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Heyawacky | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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Hotel
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Country : Japan | Hotel posted @ 2016-01-23 8:22 AM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Heyawacky | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Nice puzzles. Especially I enjoyed Heyawacky 4. |
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rakesh_rai
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Country : India | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Lakes | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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vopani
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Country : India | vopani posted @ 2016-01-23 1:21 PM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Heyawacky | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
I felt this was the most balanced PR round so far. Excellent puzzles and a good hour spent in solving them. Thanks Swaroop! |
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chaotic_iak
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Country : Indonesia | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Lakes | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A fun set overall, if more on the easier side. Apparently Windows is a type that can be broken by intuition; I did Windows 4 in 2m25, the largest point/time ratio for this test. I'm not very certain why Paint by Numbers is chosen here, since it's not a very deep type on its own; I don't think there's too many variations of tricks that can be used there. On the other hand, it's perhaps the type that is most well-known to people not active in competitive puzzling, so perhaps that's a reason on its own. It's also interesting that there's a lack of "common" shading types such as Nurikabe, but since the basic things of shading puzzles are covered ("black cells cannot be adjacent" and "white cells form contiguous region" are by Heyawacky; "black cells are connected" and "no 2x2 black cells" are by Windows; even Nurikabe's own island rule exists as Lakes ), I guess the variations do represent the theme well. |
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prasanna16391
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Country : India | The reason for including Paint By Numbers is exactly what you said, it is familiar and easy to understand. |
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Puzlifouk
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Country : France | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Crazy Pavement | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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AndreyBogdanov
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Country : Russia | | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Too many easy puzzles | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Fairly Nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Lakes | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Many puzzles were worth too much or too little | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
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kishy72
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Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2016-01-23 9:36 PM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Heyawacky | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Just one word to describe the set. Splendid !! This becomes my favourite PR round so far and I am confident that it will remain that way until the end.Everything was perfect about the test.Construction/Points distribution/Difficulty/Selection of puzzle genres etc.,.My favourites of the test were Heyawacky (10 Points )and Windows (11 points ). Tremendous job Swaroop.Just for designing this test,you deserve a place in the Puzzle Team this year :-p.Simply stunning work behind the scenes.I greatly enjoyed the set.Thanks a lot for the test. You made me experience the concept of 'fun' in a puzzle test which occurs very rarely.So you made me give an all "green" feedback in a puzzle test : )which is another of those rare things that I thought will never happen .Perfect work!!Keep it up! |
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Helen
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Country : Australia | Helen posted @ 2016-01-23 9:44 PM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Crazy Pavement | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
A very nice puzzle set and I thought the difficulty level was nicely targeted for beginners. Thanks to the creators : ) Edited by Helen 2016-01-23 9:46 PM
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ghirsch
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Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2016-01-23 10:36 PM | How well did the variants represent the theme of the test ? | variations represented the theme well | | | What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? | Just right | | | What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? | Very nice | | | Which set of puzzles did you like the most? | Crazy Pavement | | | Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? | Most puzzles were worth the right amount | | | What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? | Just right | |
Once again, this set was a lot of fun, though maybe a little too easy. There was a good amount of variety in the different puzzle types, and I liked seeing some unfamiliar types. Heyawacky 4 was very nice, and I also really liked both instructionless puzzles (though I made the stupid mistake of solving the instructionless Heyawacky example, thinking it was one of the puzzles for points ). |
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | drsteve - 2016-01-23 3:03 AM
A fun test - on the one hand, I found it a bit easy, on the other, it was nice to finish one of these for once.
I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback. Yes indeed this test was targeted towards easy side. |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | Hotel - 2016-01-23 8:22 AM
Nice puzzles. Especially I enjoyed Heyawacky 4.
I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback. |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | Rohan Rao - 2016-01-23 1:21 PM
I felt this was the most balanced PR round so far.
Excellent puzzles and a good hour spent in solving them.
Thanks Swaroop!
Thanks for your feedback. I am glad you enjoyed the test. You did well. |
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swaroop2011
Posts: 668
Country : India | chaotic_iak - 2016-01-23 2:49 PM
A fun set overall, if more on the easier side. Apparently Windows is a type that can be broken by intuition; I did Windows 4 in 2m25, the largest point/time ratio for this test.
I'm not very certain why Paint by Numbers is chosen here, since it's not a very deep type on its own; I don't think there's too many variations of tricks that can be used there. On the other hand, it's perhaps the type that is most well-known to people not active in competitive puzzling, so perhaps that's a reason on its own. It's also interesting that there's a lack of "common" shading types such as Nurikabe, but since the basic things of shading puzzles are covered ("black cells cannot be adjacent" and "white cells form contiguous region" are by Heyawacky; "black cells are connected" and "no 2x2 black cells" are by Windows; even Nurikabe's own island rule exists as Lakes), I guess the variations do represent the theme well.
Thanks for your feedback. Yes this round was targeted towards easy side. Although the details regarding thinking behind selection of puzzles and difficulty will be posted once the test is over.
But just to complete the reasoning for Paint by Numbers, it's as what you said. It's easy to do, fun and suitable for beginners.
I am glad you enjoyed the test. |
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swaroop2011
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Country : India | kishy72 - 2016-01-23 9:36 PM
Just one word to describe the set.
Splendid !!
This becomes my favourite PR round so far and I am confident that it will remain that way until the end.Everything was perfect about the test.Construction/Points distribution/Difficulty/Selection of puzzle genres etc.,.My favourites of the test were Heyawacky (10 Points)and Windows(11 points).
Tremendous job Swaroop.Just for designing this test,you deserve a place in the Puzzle Team this year :-p.Simply stunning work behind the scenes.I greatly enjoyed the set.Thanks a lot for the test.
You made me experience the concept of 'fun' in a puzzle test which occurs very rarely.So you made me give an all "green" feedback in a puzzle test :)which is another of those rare things that I thought will never happen .Perfect work!!Keep it up!
Thank you for your kind words. I am happy that you really enjoyed the test and had fun.
You did very well in the test. Although frankly, I expected you could have completed the test just within time. But nevertheless nice performance. |
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