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Riad Khanmagomedov's April Contest — 13th to 21st April 202466 posts • Page 2 of 3 • 1 2 3
@ 2024-04-20 10:38 AM (#32586 - in reply to #32583) (#32586) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2024-04-20 10:38 AM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2024-04-20 8:50 AM
The same as in puzzle 6. In the circle between the grids, the digit is common to both grids. If the circle between the grids is empty, you can find a digit from one grid and use it for the second.

Ah, I didn't understand we were taking those rules from puzzle 6. Good question Leonardo.
To clarify, is this statement correct Riad?:
"There must be a unique solution, which has a digit in every circle and both square grids filled according to the rules."

Edited by kiwijam 2024-04-20 10:42 AM
@ 2024-04-20 12:04 PM (#32587 - in reply to #32583) (#32587) Top

Leonardo024



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Leonardo024 posted @ 2024-04-20 12:04 PM

Thanks for the info! I updated my grid. In that case, for clarification one can think of placing the digits in the circles in the example solution, as they were also part of the solving process.
@ 2024-04-20 2:53 PM (#32588 - in reply to #32586) (#32588) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-20 2:53 PM

kiwijam - 2024-04-20 10:38 AM

Riad Khanmagomedov - 2024-04-20 8:50 AM
The same as in puzzle 6. In the circle between the grids, the digit is common to both grids. If the circle between the grids is empty, you can find a digit from one grid and use it for the second.

Ah, I didn't understand we were taking those rules from puzzle 6. Good question Leonardo.
To clarify, is this statement correct Riad?:
"There must be a unique solution, which has a digit in every circle and both square grids filled according to the rules."

It is not necessary for each circle to have given digits. You need to create a puzzle with a unique solution within the rules of puzzle 6.
@ 2024-04-20 3:08 PM (#32589 - in reply to #32587) (#32589) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-20 3:08 PM

Leonardo024 - 2024-04-20 12:04 PM

Thanks for the info! I updated my grid. In that case, for clarification one can think of placing the digits in the circles in the example solution, as they were also part of the solving process.

The translator gives a sentence that I cannot understand.
When you solved puzzle 6 letters appeared in the common circles that were correct for both grids. The same should be true here. When checking, I will write the digits only in the circles common to both grids. These digits should work for both grids.
To achieve a unique solution you can additionally enter numbers in the squares.
@ 2024-04-20 4:18 PM (#32590 - in reply to #32543) (#32590) Top

Puzlifouk



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Puzlifouk posted @ 2024-04-20 4:18 PM

For the answer format for optimization problems, what exactly is meant by "Type one answer key per line"? Compared to the 'Answer format' examples in the booklet, you have to go to the line after each comma, right?
@ 2024-04-20 5:04 PM (#32591 - in reply to #32590) (#32591) Top

Leonardo024



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Leonardo024 posted @ 2024-04-20 5:04 PM

Last+year+I+answered+with+commas+and+it+went+through%2C+so+I+did+it+again+this+year%2E+Maybe+Riad+can+confirm+whether+both+of+them+are+allowed+%F0%9F%98%8A

Edited by Leonardo024 2024-04-20 5:04 PM
@ 2024-04-20 6:52 PM (#32593 - in reply to #32543) (#32593) Top

Barbitos



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Barbitos posted @ 2024-04-20 6:52 PM

In puzzle 12 - Counting Names, are you allowed to submit an empty grid, or is it required to have at least one word in it?
@ 2024-04-20 11:18 PM (#32594 - in reply to #32591) (#32594) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-20 11:18 PM

%5BQUOTE%5DLeonardo024+%2D+2024%2D04%2D20++5%3A04+PM%0D%0A%0D%0ALast+year+I+answered+with+commas+and+it+went+through%2C+so+I+did+it+again+this+year%2E+Maybe+Riad+can+confirm+whether+both+of+them+are+allowed+%F0%9F%98%8A%5B%2FQUOTE%5D%0D%0AI+think+this+is+a+question+for+the+administrators%2E
@ 2024-04-20 11:20 PM (#32595 - in reply to #32593) (#32595) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-20 11:20 PM

Barbitos - 2024-04-20 6:52 PM

In puzzle 12 - Counting Names, are you allowed to submit an empty grid, or is it required to have at least one word in it?

You need to enter a word and cross it with at least one other word, so as not to break the rules.
@ 2024-04-20 11:32 PM (#32596 - in reply to #32543) (#32596) Top

Christian



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Christian posted @ 2024-04-20 11:32 PM

Hello Riad,
I gave my answer for problem 12 (Counting names) before your answer saying it must be a single connect crossword. My answer has three non connected groups and in each group each word intersects at least one other word. Could you confirm that it is not a valid answer ?
Another question : If in a row or a column all the cells are blackened, this row or column has the score 0 in the corresponding oval. Is this right ?
@ 2024-04-21 12:22 AM (#32597 - in reply to #32596) (#32597) Top

Riad Khanmagomedov



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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-21 12:22 AM

Christian - 2024-04-20 11:32 PM

Hello Riad,
I gave my answer for problem 12 (Counting names) before your answer saying it must be a single connect crossword. My answer has three non connected groups and in each group each word intersects at least one other word. Could you confirm that it is not a valid answer ?
Another question : If in a row or a column all the cells are blackened, this row or column has the score 0 in the corresponding oval. Is this right ?

Hello Christian,
You've got three crosswords, which is unacceptable.
In an empty row or column the score is 0, this is right.
@ 2024-04-21 7:16 PM (#32598 - in reply to #32543) (#32598) Top

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PSL1966 posted @ 2024-04-21 7:16 PM

1. 638417529, 527963418.
2. A40D10E30C20B50, E50C40B10A30D20.
3. W, NE, N, -, NW, -, E, N, -. -, S, W, -, -, N, E, N.
4. 15.
5. 6, 9, 11, 16.
6. -HIA-M-SM-SH-IA-, -AH-I-SMHM--SA-I.
7. B---B-B-B-B. PP--Z----X--, NN---U-U--F-.
8. LIANE----L-Q-M-, -HUDAK-O-JIAQI.
9. 63S439S524S63127, 49782S6S3S9871.
10. 49, E/S 7645312, SW/S 2417635, NW/SW 4753261, N/E 5136724, E/SE 6324157, N/W 3271546, W/NE 1562473, 11: CH-E-S-SW-N-SW-E-SE-W-N-E-N, 11: CH-E-S-SW-N-SW-SE-W-NE-N-E-N,
10: CH-E-S-NW-SW-SE-W-NE-N-E-N, 10: CH-E-S-NW-SW-E-SE-W-N-E-N, 4: FI-SW-E-SE-N, 3: GI-S-W-W-NE.
11. 29, --2-2-3-2--2, -------1-------, 3--------------, ---------------, ---------------, -------1------2, -------1-------, ---4-4----11.
12. -21224, ----------, ----------, ----------, ----L-----, ---TIM----, ----N-----, ----------, ----------, ----------, ----------, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/1/-/-/-/-/-/1/, -/-/-/1/1/11/-/-/-/-/13/,
-/-/-/-/14/-/-/-/-/-/14/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0/, -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/0, 0/0/0/1/16/11/0/0/0/0.
@ 2024-04-23 2:30 AM (#32601 - in reply to #32543) (#32601) Top

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Puzlifouk posted @ 2024-04-23 2:30 AM

Hello,
No news since the end of the competition; what's going on? In any case, like every year, I really enjoyed it!
My only regret is that I ran out of time to come up with a proper solution to problem 10 - By Compass ...
@ 2024-04-23 5:45 AM (#32602 - in reply to #32543) (#32602) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2024-04-23 5:45 AM

For those that are new to Riad's contest, the next step is that a PDF containing all the optimiser solutions will be shared, so the community can check they're valid. I imagine the By Compass submissions might be very slow to produce.
Also the first 9 puzzles will be scored normally by LMI, there is just some test data on that page for now.
@ 2024-04-23 10:30 AM (#32603 - in reply to #32543) (#32603) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2024-04-23 10:30 AM

Optimizer Submissions

Submissions to Optimizer puzzles here.

Puzzles are not checked for correctness. If you notice any incorrect submissions, please help Riad by reporting them.
@ 2024-04-23 10:32 AM (#32604 - in reply to #32602) (#32604) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2024-04-23 10:32 AM

kiwijam - 2024-04-23 5:45 AM

For those that are new to Riad's contest, the next step is that a PDF containing all the optimiser solutions will be shared, so the community can check they're valid. I imagine the By Compass submissions might be very slow to produce.
Also the first 9 puzzles will be scored normally by LMI, there is just some test data on that page for now.
Apologies for the delay. I have lost some of the software I use for creating the images. You are right that generating images for By Compass was indeed difficult. I have just produced the the submission entries as-is. It is going to be lot of work for Riad to cross-check.
@ 2024-04-23 1:44 PM (#32605 - in reply to #32543) (#32605) Top

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Leonardo024 posted @ 2024-04-23 1:44 PM

Wow+the+optimizers+are+of+such+high+quality%21+It%27s+amazing+how+witty+people+get+with+their+route+planning+in+By+Compass++and+how+much+people+can+do+with+just+a+few+numbers+in+Easy+as+Opti+%F0%9F%A4%AF+%28and+I+can%27t+even+manage+to+solve+all+of+the+right+grids+%F0%9F%98%86%29%0D%0AVery+happy+with+my+Counting+Names+submission+tho%2C+my+goal+was+to+beat+the+Tim%2DLin+combo+%F0%9F%98%89%0D%0ABig+congrats+to+all+the+great+submissions%2C+with+kiwijam+being+a+standout+%F0%9F%98%8E%0D%0AThanks+for+organizing+again+Riad+%26+co+%F0%9F%91%8F
@ 2024-04-23 1:44 PM (#32606 - in reply to #32543) (#32606) Top

Leonardo024



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Leonardo024 posted @ 2024-04-23 1:44 PM

Oops I posted a few times as the submission button seemed not to work but probably just slow internet.

Edited by Leonardo024 2024-04-23 1:46 PM
@ 2024-04-23 2:15 PM (#32610 - in reply to #32603) (#32610) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2024-04-23 2:15 PM

I spent some time hand-drawing lines on the By Compass grids.
Quite interesting to see the many approaches.
I can't post it here, so will email to Deb.

[edit: haha Leonardo, I was also failing to submit my posts (I thought) because it wasn't letting me attach a file. A "Delete Post" option would be nice.]

Edited by kiwijam 2024-04-23 2:24 PM
@ 2024-04-23 3:26 PM (#32613 - in reply to #32543) (#32613) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2024-04-23 3:26 PM

Cleaned up some duplicate posts.
@ 2024-04-23 7:56 PM (#32615 - in reply to #32543) (#32615) Top

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L00ping007 posted @ 2024-04-23 7:56 PM

Hey+everyone%2c+thanks+for+the+great+puzzles+!+Hard+ones+but+highly+enjoyable+ones+!%0aIs+it+possible+for+me+to+claim+any+points+for+puzzle+number+8+%3f+I+miswrote+LIANE----L-A-N-%23-HUDAK-O-JIAQI+instead+of+LIANE----L-Q-N-%23-HUDAK-O-JIAQI+%f0%9f%98%9c+I+solved+the+grid+correctly+(JIAQI+is+correct+so+the+Q+should+be+in+the+row+...)+but+typed+my+answer+too+fast+%3ap+Thanks+!%0aI+don't+dare+to+ask+for+the+points+for+puzzle+6%2c+I+only+entered+the+keys+for+left+grid+rows%2c+too+bad+for+me%2c+I+solved+the+puzzle+too+but+next+time+I'll+be+more+focused+about+answer+format+%3a)
@ 2024-04-23 8:32 PM (#32616 - in reply to #32543) (#32616) Top

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leoranger posted @ 2024-04-23 8:32 PM

Thanks for the great contest! The same wishes as L00ping007's. I solved puzzle 8 correctly, just soft click typing '-' after # LIANE----L-Q-M-#HUDAK-O-JIAQI instead of LIANE----L-Q-M-#-HUDAK-O-JIAQI.
@ 2024-04-23 9:36 PM (#32618 - in reply to #32543) (#32618) Top

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Riad Khanmagomedov posted @ 2024-04-23 9:36 PM

In+this+Contest+there+is+no+practice+of+correcting+points+for+the+first+9+puzzles%2E+Enough+time+is+given+to+check+everything+before+sending+answers%2E+Please+be+careful%2E+Moreover%2C+Arnaud+and+Jelena+give+different+answers+on+the+forum%2E%0D%0AI+checked+all+the+answers+for+optimization+puzzles%2E+Some+EASY+AS+OPTI+puzzles+had+several+solutions%2E+If+Martin+and+Du%D1%81+agree+with+this%2C+we+are+ready+to+publish+preliminary+results%2E
@ 2024-04-23 10:30 PM (#32619 - in reply to #32543) (#32619) Top

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Hugo posted @ 2024-04-23 10:30 PM

The correct score for my puzzle 10 (By Compass) is 172.
Line scores : 4,4,9,10,10,11,7,8,8,9,8,7,9,8,7,6,8,6,7,8,9,5,4
@ 2024-04-23 11:14 PM (#32620 - in reply to #32543) (#32620) Top

leoranger



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leoranger posted @ 2024-04-23 11:14 PM

Riad, agree with your opinion. Enough time is given to check everything before sending answers. However, why Christian got 14 points for puzzle 12? He mistook too - in the word "Lionel" he submitted digit 0 instead of "o" letter.
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