Thread - Parallel Universe — April Sudoku Test

@ 2014-04-15 12:06 AM (#14944) (#14944) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2014-04-15 12:06 AM

@ 2014-04-15 12:21 AM (#14945 - in reply to #14944) (#14945) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2014-04-15 12:21 AM

Logic Masters India announces Parallel Universe — April Sudoku Test

Dates : 19^th — 21^st April

Instructions Booklet and Submission : here

@ 2014-04-15 12:52 AM (#14946 - in reply to #14945) (#14946) Top

marchino75

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marchino75 posted @ 2014-04-15 12:52 AM

It's possibile to' game at 18th april?

@ 2014-04-15 10:15 AM (#14952 - in reply to #14944) (#14952) Top

auroux

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auroux posted @ 2014-04-15 10:15 AM

Prasanna: this looks like a great set of puzzles! But the instructions for "their universe" are really worded confusingly (on purpose, I assume) -- the "our universe" instructions not only are much clearer but also, in many instances, rightfully avoid assuming that one version is more standard than the other. Perhaps it is not a bad idea to make it clear that there is just one set of puzzles, and that people who like me have trouble with the "alternate universe" instructions should just use the version from our universe and that the other instructions do not actually add anything (except maybe a good dose of confusion)?

Or did I get so confused that I didn't even get *that* right?

Denis

@ 2014-04-15 12:20 PM (#14954 - in reply to #14952) (#14954) Top

kishy72

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kishy72 posted @ 2014-04-15 12:20 PM

Hii!Perhaps you have not noticed the Author's note at the top in 'Their Universe' Booklet ? :

"Author’s Note (regardless of the universe the author is from) :

This Instruction booklet contains the exact same types but just presented in
a different (maybe interesting) way. Consider this as a “Translation” for
another Universe. It is the same contest explained and presented in a
different way, just for fun"

@ 2014-04-15 2:39 PM (#14955 - in reply to #14944) (#14955) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-04-15 2:39 PM

Hi Denis,

Kishore's right. The first page of the "TheirUniverse" IB contains a note with that clarification. Please let me know if that's unclear in some way.

@ 2014-04-16 9:18 AM (#14960 - in reply to #14944) (#14960) Top

auroux

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auroux posted @ 2014-04-16 9:18 AM

Ok, it's pretty clear, thanks! I did see the note but I was so confused by the whole "their universe" IB that I wasn't sure it would be completely clear for everyone. With this discussion in the forum I think it should now be completely clear.

Denis

@ 2014-04-16 11:41 PM (#14963 - in reply to #14960) (#14963) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2014-04-16 11:41 PM

Updated IB(s) with points table uploaded.
Here is the points table for quick reference. Please note that Instant Grading is enabled.

Attachments
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NeutralPoints.pdf (17KB - 33 downloads)

@ 2014-04-18 3:52 AM (#14972 - in reply to #14944) (#14972) Top

RALehrer

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RALehrer posted @ 2014-04-18 3:52 AM

I'm having trouble understanding the rules to the linked consecutive sudoku. Could you clarify what is meant by "The edges that are adjacent across two different grids"?

Thx

@ 2014-04-18 7:12 AM (#14973 - in reply to #14944) (#14973) Top

xevs

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xevs posted @ 2014-04-18 7:12 AM

So, WE need to solve OUR contest only, right?

@ 2014-04-18 9:39 AM (#14974 - in reply to #14972) (#14974) Top

Minfang Lin

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Minfang Lin posted @ 2014-04-18 9:39 AM

RALehrer - 2014-04-18 3:52 AM

I'm having trouble understanding the rules to the linked consecutive sudoku. Could you clarify what is meant by "The edges that are adjacent across two different grids"?

Thx

Like the orange rectangle marked ones.

@ 2014-04-18 9:40 AM (#14975 - in reply to #14973) (#14975) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2014-04-18 9:40 AM

xevs - 2014-04-18 7:12 AM

So, WE need to solve OUR contest only, right?

Yes. There will be only one PB, with rules from "Our Universe"

@ 2014-04-18 1:07 PM (#14976 - in reply to #14944) (#14976) Top

Minfang Lin

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Minfang Lin posted @ 2014-04-18 1:07 PM

Chinese translation of IB is available on sudokufans forum.
Link: http://www.sudokufans.org.cn/forums/topic/1874/

@ 2014-04-18 11:35 PM (#14980 - in reply to #14976) (#14980) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-04-18 11:35 PM

The password protected Puzzle Booklet has been uploaded on the submission page.

Notes about Online solving:

1. Players solving online can check the results only after 111 minutes. Bonus will be computed based on last submission time.
2. Hamle Sudoku will not have marking possibilities on the left grid.

@ 2014-04-18 11:42 PM (#14981 - in reply to #14944) (#14981) Top

auroux

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auroux posted @ 2014-04-18 11:42 PM

Hi Prasanna, the timers on the submission page seem to suggest the contest will only be open on April 19-20, not 19-21 as advertised. Would it be possible to extend the test to also run on Monday as I think was initially planned, since I am not sure I can do it within the currently listed 48-hour window? Thanks, Denis

@ 2014-04-18 11:52 PM (#14982 - in reply to #14944) (#14982) Top

mathcrazy

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mathcrazy posted @ 2014-04-18 11:52 PM

For Quad Max Sudoku, does the rule imply that if an arrow is not provided, that number is not greater than all the remaining 3?

@ 2014-04-19 12:57 AM (#14983 - in reply to #14981) (#14983) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-04-19 12:57 AM

auroux - 2014-04-18 11:42 PM

Hi Prasanna, the timers on the submission page seem to suggest the contest will only be open on April 19-20, not 19-21 as advertised. Would it be possible to extend the test to also run on Monday as I think was initially planned, since I am not sure I can do it within the currently listed 48-hour window? Thanks, Denis

I think thats mostly an error. We do intend to run it on Monday too like we usually do with LMI Contests now. I missed it, it should be fixed by tomorrow morning (India time). Sorry for the confusion.

@ 2014-04-19 12:58 AM (#14984 - in reply to #14982) (#14984) Top

prasanna16391

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-04-19 12:58 AM

mathcrazy - 2014-04-18 11:52 PM

For Quad Max Sudoku, does the rule imply that if an arrow is not provided, that number is not greater than all the remaining 3?

No added implications. Only where the arrow is provided, the digit must be greater than the remaining 3. No Min/Max restrictions otherwise.

@ 2014-04-19 3:35 AM (#14985 - in reply to #14973) (#14985) Top

forcolin

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forcolin posted @ 2014-04-19 3:35 AM

xevs - 2014-04-18 7:12 AM

So, WE need to solve OUR contest only, right?

I also presume THEY will solve THEIR contest.

Will there be a unique classification at the end, including both US and THEM? Or there will be a separate / different leaderbord for each universe? Or the average of the two rankings for each player with his/her counterpart?

Stefano

@ 2014-04-19 7:46 AM (#14988 - in reply to #14944) (#14988) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-04-19 7:46 AM

i am not able to check overall results ?

@ 2014-04-19 7:49 AM (#14989 - in reply to #14944) (#14989) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2014-04-19 7:49 AM

Anyways,
Awesome test Prasanna. Thanks for beautiful puzzles.
My favourite: Hamle
I did many mistakes while solving like trio, arrow and had to reprint page. I bymistakely entered wrong answer in classic sudoku dont know how, but corrected it immediately as instant grading is there.
Could have completed two more if no mistakes at start, linked and maxed quads.
But Overall i felt i have improved in sudoku than previous performances.
Thanks again LMI and prasanna. Will have to solve remaining ones later.
But wanted to request that" can we submit the other puzzles even after time is over just to check if its correct or not? - at present it displays cannot submit after 111 min "

Edited by swaroop2011 2014-04-19 7:57 AM

@ 2014-04-19 9:09 AM (#14990 - in reply to #14980) (#14990) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2014-04-19 9:09 AM

Score page and Feedback page

Score page and feedback page enabled. Link is http://logicmastersindia.com/2014/04S/score.asp

@ 2014-04-19 9:13 AM (#14991 - in reply to #14944) (#14991) Top

An LMI player

An LMI player posted @ 2014-04-19 9:13 AM

How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were?	Fairly balanced
What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles?	Just right
What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test?	Very nice
How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test?	Just right
Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty?	Most puzzles were worth the right amount
What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing?	Just right

@ 2014-04-19 9:19 AM (#14992 - in reply to #14974) (#14992) Top

RALehrer

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RALehrer posted @ 2014-04-19 9:19 AM

Got it - thanks!

@ 2014-04-19 10:16 AM (#14993 - in reply to #14944) (#14993) Top

achan1058

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achan1058 posted @ 2014-04-19 10:16 AM

That was horrible. I don't think I have done this badly on a contest for a while now. It was my fault that I spent way too much time on the linked consecutive and quad max......

Edited by achan1058 2014-04-19 10:21 AM