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@ 2012-12-29 10:53 PM (#9294) (#9294) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-12-29 10:53 PM



@ 2012-12-30 12:01 AM (#9296 - in reply to #9294) (#9296) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-12-30 12:01 AM


Logic Masters India announces January Puzzle Test — Best of LMI Puzzle Tests

Dates : 05th — 07th January

Details : here

Authors : Andrey Bogdanov & Vladimir Portugalov

@ 2013-01-04 2:34 AM (#9325 - in reply to #9294) (#9325) Top

jalbert



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jalbert posted @ 2013-01-04 2:34 AM

The test looks great-- thanks! One comment: I believe the Cubic Star Battle example is not unique. For example, the 5th star in row 3 can be moved to position 6, and the 6th star in row 5 can be moved to position 5. While this solution will have the same answer key as the given solution, there is another solution that has a different answer key (swap the 2nd and 3rd stars in rows 3 and 11; permute the 4th 5th, and 6th stars in the 3rd, 5th, and 10th rows.) On the other hand, maybe I'm all wrong!

In any case, can we assume solution uniqueness? Thanks and happy new year!
@ 2013-01-04 4:46 AM (#9327 - in reply to #9325) (#9327) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-01-04 4:46 AM

jalbert - 2013-01-04 2:34 AM

The test looks great-- thanks! One comment: I believe the Cubic Star Battle example is not unique. For example, the 5th star in row 3 can be moved to position 6, and the 6th star in row 5 can be moved to position 5. While this solution will have the same answer key as the given solution, there is another solution that has a different answer key (swap the 2nd and 3rd stars in rows 3 and 11; permute the 4th 5th, and 6th stars in the 3rd, 5th, and 10th rows.) On the other hand, maybe I'm all wrong!

In any case, can we assume solution uniqueness? Thanks and happy new year!


The puzzle is unique. You have to remember that the stars can't touch eachother, not even diagonally.

@ 2013-01-04 5:01 AM (#9328 - in reply to #9327) (#9328) Top

jalbert



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jalbert posted @ 2013-01-04 5:01 AM

Yes, I see it now-- thanks!
@ 2013-01-04 9:50 PM (#9331 - in reply to #9294) (#9331) Top

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mathcrazy posted @ 2013-01-04 9:50 PM

In Ripple effect, should we start counting from the cell next to the number or from the cell containing the number itself?
@ 2013-01-04 10:43 PM (#9333 - in reply to #9294) (#9333) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-01-04 10:43 PM

Cell next to the number.
@ 2013-01-04 11:32 PM (#9334 - in reply to #9333) (#9334) Top

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mathcrazy posted @ 2013-01-04 11:32 PM

But some 5s are only 4 cells apart in the sample puzzle in IB. How?

Edited by mathcrazy 2013-01-04 11:46 PM
@ 2013-01-05 1:34 AM (#9335 - in reply to #9334) (#9335) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-01-05 1:34 AM

mathcrazy - 2013-01-04 11:32 PM

But some 5s are only 4 cells apart in the sample puzzle in IB. How?



The restriction only counts for every individual row or column. So in each row or column there should be at least N cells between two numbers N. So for example, between two 3's in the same row or column there should be at least 3 cells.

Edited by Para 2013-01-05 1:34 AM
@ 2013-01-05 2:58 PM (#9338 - in reply to #9294) (#9338) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-01-05 2:58 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Booklet formatting and printing: Bold borders and non-bold borders aren't really distinguishable.
@ 2013-01-05 4:42 PM (#9339 - in reply to #9294) (#9339) Top

siddhantmadan



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siddhantmadan posted @ 2013-01-05 4:42 PM

There are no X's in my Cubic Star Battle. Are there any?
@ 2013-01-05 4:49 PM (#9340 - in reply to #9339) (#9340) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-01-05 4:49 PM

siddhantmadan - 2013-01-05 4:42 PM

There are no X's in my Cubic Star Battle. Are there any?


No. Its fine.
@ 2013-01-05 4:53 PM (#9341 - in reply to #9294) (#9341) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-01-05 4:53 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-05 5:03 PM (#9342 - in reply to #9339) (#9342) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2013-01-05 5:03 PM

siddhantmadan - 2013-01-05 4:42 PM

There are no ...... Are there any?

No there aren't any.
@ 2013-01-05 7:27 PM (#9343 - in reply to #9338) (#9343) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-01-05 7:27 PM

chaotic_iak - 2013-01-05 2:58 PM

Booklet formatting and printing: Bold borders and non-bold borders aren't really distinguishable.


I didn't have that problem in any puzzle.
@ 2013-01-05 7:58 PM (#9344 - in reply to #9294) (#9344) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-01-05 7:58 PM

Perhaps it's the fact that I printscreened the images at a zoom level not 100% (I solve by MS Paint and MS Excel because I don't have any printer easily accessible), so thin lines might seem thick.
@ 2013-01-06 7:41 AM (#9346 - in reply to #9294) (#9346) Top

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Gotroch posted @ 2013-01-06 7:41 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-06 11:27 AM (#9347 - in reply to #9294) (#9347) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2013-01-06 11:27 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-06 5:45 PM (#9348 - in reply to #9294) (#9348) Top

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zorko posted @ 2013-01-06 5:45 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-06 8:15 PM (#9349 - in reply to #9294) (#9349) Top

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betaveros posted @ 2013-01-06 8:15 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-06 8:18 PM (#9350 - in reply to #9294) (#9350) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-01-06 8:18 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-06 10:52 PM (#9351 - in reply to #9294) (#9351) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-01-06 10:52 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2013-01-07 2:20 AM (#9353 - in reply to #9294) (#9353) Top

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zachpuzzle posted @ 2013-01-07 2:20 AM

What exactly are the rules for when you can and when you can't claim a puzzle's points? Is it exclusively if you think that the puzzle was broken? or also if you misdid the answer key? For my case, I mixed up the white and black cells answering the mochikoro. Does it still count? Should I claim the points?

Thanks!
@ 2013-01-07 2:48 AM (#9354 - in reply to #9294) (#9354) Top

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Rubben posted @ 2013-01-07 2:48 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-01-07 2:58 AM (#9355 - in reply to #9294) (#9355) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-01-07 2:58 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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