@ 2012-08-20 3:51 PM (#8254 - in reply to #8245) (#8254) Top | |
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2012-08-20 3:51 PM will there be regular beginner sudoku contest in sep? |
@ 2012-08-20 3:56 PM (#8255 - in reply to #8254) (#8255) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-20 3:56 PM kishy72 - 2012-08-20 3:51 PM We are planning one, and an announcement will be made one week before that in the Beginners' Contest topic. If you have any further queries, please ask them there.will there be regular beginner sudoku contest in sep? |
@ 2012-08-22 7:16 PM (#8267 - in reply to #8245) (#8267) Top | |
Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2012-08-22 7:16 PM When will be the IB published? |
@ 2012-08-22 10:03 PM (#8268 - in reply to #8245) (#8268) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-08-22 10:03 PM Logic Masters India announces August Sudoku Test #2 — Killer Shootout Author : Stefan Heine Dates : 25th - 28th August IB and Submission Link : here Length of the test : 180 minutes / Bonus : 0.03 points per second saved, if all sudokus are correct Test-Solvers : Ulrich Voigt & Sebastian Matschke |
@ 2012-08-22 10:17 PM (#8269 - in reply to #8245) (#8269) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-22 10:17 PM Regarding the Navigation variant - For 9 cells, Compass will have to be on the cell itself right? So we shall have to write the digit over it for that cell. Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5. |
@ 2012-08-22 10:50 PM (#8270 - in reply to #8245) (#8270) Top | |
Posts: 5 Country : India | ssandy posted @ 2012-08-22 10:50 PM Is there online solving? |
@ 2012-08-22 11:11 PM (#8271 - in reply to #8245) (#8271) Top | |
Posts: 148 Country : France | Ours brun posted @ 2012-08-22 11:11 PM prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 6:17 PM Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5. As I understand the IB, I would say yes, and yes. I am planning to be very careful about two things : repetition/non repetition in the diagonals, since puzzles are not grouped according to this (however almost); and on a personal plan, I will have to slow myself on the "Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer" since the association of parity and colors you made is quite the opposite of what naturally comes to my mind - I see even digits as round and green or blue, and odd ones square-shaped... This promises to be fun! I just noted the 180' timing; how many puzzles of each type are we to expect ? |
@ 2012-08-22 11:23 PM (#8272 - in reply to #8270) (#8272) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-22 11:23 PM ssandy - 2012-08-22 10:50 PM Is there online solving? I'm not certain, but I think its unlikely. Classics vs Innovatives didn't have online solving, and this test has some innovative variants with actual birds and fishes on it so I doubt it will. |
@ 2012-08-22 11:24 PM (#8273 - in reply to #8245) (#8273) Top | |
Posts: 225 Country : Thailand | tamz29 posted @ 2012-08-22 11:24 PM 3 hours?! |
@ 2012-08-22 11:31 PM (#8274 - in reply to #8245) (#8274) Top | |
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-08-22 11:31 PM Really a new innovative test with so much fun. Waiting for it!! |
@ 2012-08-22 11:44 PM (#8275 - in reply to #8274) (#8275) Top | |
Posts: 191 Country : The Netherlands | Richard posted @ 2012-08-22 11:44 PM Hmmm, Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. Unless the contest will only contain 7 puzzles... But that is very unlikely, looking to the 3 hours time for the test. Can organizers say anything about this? Or do we have to make choices on what puzzles to try and what not only after seeing the real PB? |
@ 2012-08-22 11:58 PM (#8276 - in reply to #8275) (#8276) Top | |
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2012-08-22 11:58 PM Richard - 2012-08-22 11:44 PM Hmmm, Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. Unless the contest will only contain 7 puzzles... But that is very unlikely, looking to the 3 hours time for the test. Can organizers say anything about this? Or do we have to make choices on what puzzles to try and what not only after seeing the real PB? Confirmation will come when Deb/Author/Test-Solver is online, but yes it is mostly 7 difficult puzzles. |
@ 2012-08-23 12:43 AM (#8277 - in reply to #8276) (#8277) Top | |
Posts: 191 Country : The Netherlands | Richard posted @ 2012-08-23 12:43 AM prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 11:58 PM Confirmation will come when Deb/Author/Test-Solver is online, but yes it is mostly 7 difficult puzzles. I guess you are right; 3 hours is 10.800 seconds and for 200 points it should mean 0,019 points per second, which relates to 0,03 points bonus per second. But: let's wait for confirmation... |
@ 2012-08-23 1:45 AM (#8278 - in reply to #8245) (#8278) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 1:45 AM Hi there, I am proud and happy to present to you my first LMI Sudoku Test! I will try to answer all of your questions step by step. First notification: Because the UK Puzzle Championship and the US Puzzle Championship is also scheduled to happen this weekend the "Killer Sudoku Shoot Out" is open for 96 hours, instead for 72 hours (including a Tuesday). yours Stefan Heine |
@ 2012-08-23 1:54 AM (#8279 - in reply to #8269) (#8279) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 1:54 AM prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 6:17 PM Regarding the Navigation variant - For 9 cells, Compass will have to be on the cell itself right? So we shall have to write the digit over it for that cell. Also, for the Bird variant, which sum belongs to which group will have to be determined during the solve right? And I assume numbers can repeat in the bird groups, since one of the sums for 3 cells is 25 and another is 5. Three times yes - all assumptions are correct! Stefan |
@ 2012-08-23 2:00 AM (#8280 - in reply to #8271) (#8280) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 2:00 AM Ours brun - 2012-08-22 7:11 PM ...how many puzzles of each type are we to expect ? Only one puzzle of each type - it is seven sudokus for the whole test! Stefan |
@ 2012-08-23 2:08 AM (#8281 - in reply to #8275) (#8281) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 2:08 AM Richard - 2012-08-22 7:44 PM Hmmm, Seven example puzzles, adding up to 200 points. It's not clear how the points distribution over the contest puzzles will be. ... It should be clear because you see the points for every puzzle between the puzzle and the headline in light grey - even in the IB. Maybe this grey is too light. 14 - Little Regular Killer 22 - Irregular Navigation Killer 23 - Little Irregular Killer 56 - Little Diagonal Bild Killer 41 - Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer 20 - Non Consecutive Little Odd Fish Killer 24 - Dots Killer ---------------------------- 200 Killer Points Stefan |
@ 2012-08-23 2:41 AM (#8282 - in reply to #8273) (#8282) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 2:41 AM tamz29 - 2012-08-22 7:24 PM 3 hours?! Yes, it is three hours. Primarily I planned to enable four hours of time because I wanted to give the chance to most of you to finish all puzzles. These sudokus are really not easy to solve and my experience from creating puzzles for dozens of contests is that the results spread the more the more difficult the puzzles are in average. I believe only the very very best in the world (if participating) will be able to overleap 300 points by finishing within two hours. Stefan |
@ 2012-08-23 3:35 AM (#8283 - in reply to #8282) (#8283) Top | |
Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2012-08-23 3:35 AM It looks like this tournament will contain harder sudokus than my test diagonal vision . Having been stuck during more than 30 minutes in an official competition on a little killer (having found only 7 digits) created by Stefan Heine should perhaps scare me, but I look forward to this uncommon test. Fred |
@ 2012-08-23 10:25 AM (#8284 - in reply to #8245) (#8284) Top | |
Posts: 157 Country : India | akash.doulani posted @ 2012-08-23 10:25 AM in Irregular Navigation Killer do the cells covered by a compass have different numbers or can they repeat? |
@ 2012-08-23 12:16 PM (#8285 - in reply to #8284) (#8285) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-08-23 12:16 PM akash.doulani - 2012-08-23 10:25 AM They can repeat. (They repeat in the solution to example also)in Irregular Navigation Killer do the cells covered by a compass have different numbers or can they repeat? |
@ 2012-08-23 3:16 PM (#8286 - in reply to #8285) (#8286) Top | |
Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2012-08-23 3:16 PM Administrator - 2012-08-23 12:16 PM akash.doulani - 2012-08-23 10:25 AM They can repeat. (They repeat in the solution to example also)in Irregular Navigation Killer do the cells covered by a compass have different numbers or can they repeat? Otherwise, it would just be an extraregions sudoku (compass covers 9 cells) |
@ 2012-08-23 3:18 PM (#8287 - in reply to #8286) (#8287) Top | |
Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland | Fred76 posted @ 2012-08-23 3:18 PM On the Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer, are all the possible rectangles and circles marked? |
@ 2012-08-23 8:05 PM (#8288 - in reply to #8287) (#8288) Top | |
Posts: 9 Country : Germany | Stefan_Heine posted @ 2012-08-23 8:05 PM Fred76 - 2012-08-23 11:18 AM On the Little Odd Even Diagonal Killer, are all the possible rectangles and circles marked? You never know ;-) (And you dont need to know) |
@ 2012-08-23 9:15 PM (#8289 - in reply to #8272) (#8289) Top | |
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2012-08-23 9:15 PM prasanna16391 - 2012-08-22 11:23 PM No online solving this time as well. Tried to make some changes to the flash code, but the compass is creating bigger problem than birds and fishes.ssandy - 2012-08-22 10:50 PM Is there online solving? I'm not certain, but I think its unlikely. Classics vs Innovatives didn't have online solving, and this test has some innovative variants with actual birds and fishes on it so I doubt it will. |