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@ 2012-02-19 3:44 AM (#6750 - in reply to #6737) (#6750) Top

euklid



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euklid posted @ 2012-02-19 3:44 AM

@anurag: Could it be that your "total false" tapa has multiple solutions? I can replace the "24"-clue at the right border by "1" or by "111" and find solutions in both cases.

edit: I also find multiple solutions for your braille tapa. Is there some mistake on my side?

Edited by euklid 2012-02-19 3:57 AM
@ 2012-02-19 10:05 AM (#6751 - in reply to #6737) (#6751) Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2012-02-19 10:05 AM

Thanks euklid.2x2+1 solutions for total false.Now, you can go back and check the puzzles.
@ 2012-02-22 12:55 AM (#6758 - in reply to #6737) (#6758) Top

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Para posted @ 2012-02-22 12:55 AM

I've posted a few practise puzzles again. I will post the remaining genres Thursday.

http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/02/tvc-x-practise.html
@ 2012-02-22 6:44 AM (#6759 - in reply to #6758) (#6759) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2012-02-22 6:44 AM

IB of TVC X was edited and uploaded to TVC page. You can download IB Version2: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/X/

Also we've already uploaded a errata file. Please check it in same page. There are 3 remarks.
@ 2012-02-22 10:52 PM (#6760 - in reply to #6737) (#6760) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2012-02-22 10:52 PM

during Test ,
does two different grids will be provided for tapa and mata ,
and same doubt for distiller
@ 2012-02-22 10:55 PM (#6761 - in reply to #6760) (#6761) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-22 10:55 PM

swaroop2011 - 2012-02-22 10:52 PM

during Test ,
does two different grids will be provided for tapa and mata ,
and same doubt for distiller


It says there will be 2 grids given in the instructions for tapa and pata. For the distiller you will get 5 grids. The overlapped grid and 4 empty grids to put your puzzles in.
@ 2012-02-22 10:58 PM (#6762 - in reply to #6759) (#6762) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-22 10:58 PM

yureklis - 2012-02-22 6:44 AM

Also we've already uploaded a errata file. Please check it in same page. There are 3 remarks.


You just had to make the rules so my Shortest Segment Tapa was incorrect. I let the puzzle run a lot on "there has to be a minimal segment" rule. Will make something new. Luckily I hadn't posted it yet.
@ 2012-02-23 1:20 AM (#6763 - in reply to #6737) (#6763) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-23 1:20 AM

For Shortest Segment Tapa: Just a small clarification as I used this in my puzzle. If there's a number on the outside, does that imply that row/column isn't empty?
@ 2012-02-23 1:23 AM (#6764 - in reply to #6762) (#6764) Top

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anurag posted @ 2012-02-23 1:23 AM

Serkan's new version is a bit complicated and i do not like it much(only for a timed test).Also,unless you would like to indicate that a row is not empty,there is no point in using '1's as a clue.I would prefer to know that atleast one segment of that length has to be there.
@ 2012-02-23 1:29 AM (#6765 - in reply to #6763) (#6765) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2012-02-23 1:29 AM

Para - 2012-02-23 1:20 AM

For Shortest Segment Tapa: Just a small clarification as I used this in my puzzle. If there's a number on the outside, does that imply that row/column isn't empty?


Yes. If there is a outside clue (sure it will be) it means that there must appear some blackened blocks.
@ 2012-02-23 1:30 AM (#6766 - in reply to #6763) (#6766) Top

anurag



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anurag posted @ 2012-02-23 1:30 AM

Why would you want to confuse the solver with a clue if the row was empty.
@ 2012-02-23 3:07 AM (#6767 - in reply to #6766) (#6767) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-23 3:07 AM

anurag - 2012-02-23 1:30 AM

Why would you want to confuse the solver with a clue if the row was empty.


Well it could be possible for a row to only contain 1 and 2 segment pieces because of clues or other parts of the wall and by putting a 3 there you could force the whole row to remain empty. Which wouldn't have to be the case if that 3 wasn't there. But it doesn't apply here, just showing how it could be helpful if the option was there.

Edited by Para 2012-02-23 3:07 AM
@ 2012-02-23 11:40 PM (#6770 - in reply to #6737) (#6770) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-23 11:40 PM

The remainder of the practise puzzles have been posted now.

http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/02/tvc-x-practise-part-2.ht...
@ 2012-02-24 6:38 AM (#6771 - in reply to #6737) (#6771) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-24 6:38 AM

Points Table


PuzzlePointsGroup
1a. Total False Tapa42Puzzles 1-2
1b. Tapa Guard77
2. Tapa13
2. Pata13
3. Toroidal Tapa85Puzzles 3-5
4. Braille Tapa122
5. Combination Tapa59
6a. Shortest Segment29Puzzles 6-7
6b. Shortest Segment61
7. Magnetic Tapa41
8. Tapa Distiller43 + 43 + 43 + 43Puzzle 8
9a. Anglers Tapa47Puzzle 9-10
9b. Anglers Tapa70
10. Tapa Difference81
Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 912
Bonus : 9 points per minute saved
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 6 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


The 3rd column (Group) shows how grouping will be done in the submission interface.
@ 2012-02-24 7:06 PM (#6772 - in reply to #6737) (#6772) Top

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flk posted @ 2012-02-24 7:06 PM

Thanks to all those making practice problems
@ 2012-02-24 11:47 PM (#6775 - in reply to #6737) (#6775) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-24 11:47 PM

There are 2 additional puzzles as they were requested. I might start dreaming about Tapas soon, but I'm having fun making them.

http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com/2012/02/tvc-x-practise-part-3.ht...
@ 2012-02-25 1:05 AM (#6776 - in reply to #6737) (#6776) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-25 1:05 AM

Thanks Bram for the practice puzzles. I'm sure they help you get a good score this time as well.
@ 2012-02-25 1:05 AM (#6777 - in reply to #6737) (#6777) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2012-02-25 1:05 AM

Announcements

  • Password protected pdf is uploaded. It has 10 pages (including a cover page)
  • Time bonus will be computed after you click "Claim Bonus"
  • Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission

@ 2012-02-25 6:00 AM (#6778 - in reply to #6776) (#6778) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-25 6:00 AM

Administrator - 2012-02-25 1:05 AM

Thanks Bram for the practice puzzles. I'm sure they help you get a good score this time as well.


They would probably help me better if I didn't share them with everyone.
@ 2012-02-25 6:06 PM (#6779 - in reply to #6778) (#6779) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2012-02-25 6:06 PM

Para - 2012-02-25 6:00 AM

Administrator - 2012-02-25 1:05 AM

Thanks Bram for the practice puzzles. I'm sure they help you get a good score this time as well.


They would probably help me better if I didn't share them with everyone.


That's the real panache: You share everything you know, then you win the tournament, and then you say: "I proved that I'm the best !", (and then perhaps everyone hate you)

@ 2012-02-25 7:38 PM (#6780 - in reply to #6742) (#6780) Top

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anurag posted @ 2012-02-25 7:38 PM

Pity this wasnt answered.I think he is right.
@ 2012-02-25 8:32 PM (#6781 - in reply to #6737) (#6781) Top

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Fred76 posted @ 2012-02-25 8:32 PM

It was just a joke, of course. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental
@ 2012-02-26 7:14 AM (#6782 - in reply to #6737) (#6782) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2012-02-26 7:14 AM

I forgot to comment on this after finishing as it had slipped my mind after all the puzzling. When printing the Tapa Guard, Braille Tapa and Anglers puzzle didn't fit completely on the page for me. Was I the only one having this problem or did others have this happen?
@ 2012-02-26 12:02 PM (#6785 - in reply to #6737) (#6785) Top

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willwc posted @ 2012-02-26 12:02 PM

I had the same issue that Para described on all of the pages he mentioned.

I also seem to have issues with submitting correct answers and with submitting them before the penalty time runs out, but I doubt there's any help for me there...
@ 2012-02-26 1:11 PM (#6787 - in reply to #6785) (#6787) Top

willwc



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willwc posted @ 2012-02-26 1:11 PM

I am not sure how to edit my previous post, but I also noticed that the second Shortest Segment puzzle had the bottom row of outside digits missing on my printout as well. That would've certainly helped to notice during the test...
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