@ 2011-05-10 6:45 PM (#4359 - in reply to #4332) (#4359) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-10 6:45 PM About Ambigram Skyscrapers The rule says "The solution, if written in the above notation, must look the same when the page is turned upside down." This is Gareth's alternate solution (with page turned upside down) David's alternate solution (with page turned upside down) Both of them don't satisfy the rule. The given solution is and it looks same when rotated. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 6:48 PM (#4360 - in reply to #4358) (#4360) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-05-10 6:48 PM David McNeill - 2011-05-10 6:28 PM Here, 2x1 block is different from 1x2 block.The Persistence of Memory solution puzzled me and I think the rules need to be clarified. I assumed that the orientation of the shape did not matter and that, therefore, all 4 shapes were identical. Under this interpretation, the given solution does not satisfy the rule that each shape should have snake parts with the same appearance. There is at least one valid solution using my "false" interpretation. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 7:04 PM (#4361 - in reply to #4360) (#4361) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2011-05-10 7:04 PM Apart from 2X1 blocks being different from 1X2 blocks, the path of the snake also must be exactly same (rotation not allowed) If some 1X1 blocks were given :
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@ 2011-05-10 7:22 PM (#4362 - in reply to #4332) (#4362) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 33 Country : Turkey | A Carton Mutant posted @ 2011-05-10 7:22 PM The reason I created the example with 1x2 blocks and 2x1 blocks was the hope that them being different would be noticed. Guess not. If two blocks have exactly the same shape (no rotation, no nothing), they have the same appearance regarding snake parts. Ambigram: I do not expect anyone to actually solve the puzzle using that fancy font. :) However, the rule "The solution, if written in the above notation, must look the same when the page is turned upside down." helps. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 8:47 PM (#4363 - in reply to #4332) (#4363) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-10 8:47 PM hey in the Deformable Kropki i think there are 2 solutions. the 3's and 5's are interchangeable at R4C1 R4C2 AND R5C1 R5C2. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 9:07 PM (#4364 - in reply to #4363) (#4364) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-05-10 9:07 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 8:47 PM R3C1 is 2 and R4C1 will be 3. That is not valid since there is no dot between R3C1 and R4C1.hey in the Deformable Kropki i think there are 2 solutions. the 3's and 5's are interchangeable at R4C1 R4C2 AND R5C1 R5C2. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 9:13 PM (#4365 - in reply to #4364) (#4365) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-10 9:13 PM ok it means that reverse rule also applies in Deformable Kropki. Edited by swaroop2011 2011-05-10 9:24 PM | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 9:14 PM (#4366 - in reply to #4365) (#4366) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-05-10 9:14 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:13 PM That is so obvious from the rules.ok it means that reverse rule also applies. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 9:25 PM (#4367 - in reply to #4332) (#4367) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 668 Country : India | swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-05-10 9:25 PM In Coral rotator , does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable. And in Symmetric Loop in the first regiion that is in column 1 and 2. the loop is U shape but at R3 it is Z shape BUt the rule says it is symmetric how? | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 9:46 PM (#4368 - in reply to #4332) (#4368) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 63 Country : United Kingdom | David McNeill posted @ 2011-05-10 9:46 PM Thanks for clarification. I hope my mistakes will not be made by any competitors in the real thing. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-10 10:11 PM (#4369 - in reply to #4367) (#4369) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-05-10 10:11 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:25 PM Yes 2 becomes 3 on page turned upside down, and vice-versaIn Coral rotator , does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable. And in Symmetric Loop Just look at the portion of the loop inside the marked areas. It should be symmetric, i.e., if you rotate the marked area by 180 degrees, you still get the same loop portion inside the area.in the first regiion that is in column 1 and 2. the loop is U shape but at R3 it is Z shape BUt the rule says it is symmetric how? | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-11 5:46 AM (#4371 - in reply to #4369) (#4371) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-05-11 5:46 AM rakesh_rai - 2011-05-10 10:11 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-05-10 9:25 PM Yes 2 becomes 3 on page turned upside down, and vice-versaIn Coral rotator , does whil rotating the page upside down makes 2 and interchangeable. Also, 4 becomes 7 and vice versa. Same with 6 and 9. Remaining digits 0 1 5 8 don't change when turned upside down. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-11 9:52 PM (#4374 - in reply to #4332) (#4374) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 739 Country : India | vopani posted @ 2011-05-11 9:52 PM In Superimposed Loop, can both the grids contain a black cell in the same position? | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-12 1:07 AM (#4376 - in reply to #4374) (#4376) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 33 Country : Turkey | A Carton Mutant posted @ 2011-05-12 1:07 AM Indeed. Just their superimposed form is given, the two grids are actually independent. They do not put any constraints on each other. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-13 12:39 AM (#4386 - in reply to #4332) (#4386) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 33 Country : Turkey | A Carton Mutant posted @ 2011-05-13 12:39 AM Small clarification: Sorry for making the diagram borders bold on the Symmetric Loop example, it led to some confusion with the actual regions. Contest puzzles do not have them bolded. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-13 9:44 PM (#4398 - in reply to #4332) (#4398) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-05-13 9:44 PM Puzzle Booklet uploaded. It has 11 pages, each page has puzzles (no cover page) | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-13 9:44 PM (#4399 - in reply to #4332) (#4399) Top | ||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2011-05-13 9:44 PM Starting this test, we are making one change If somebody doesn't want to include this test's results in LMI Ratings, they must unselect the checkbox. After clicking on "Start", the checkbox will be invisible. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-13 10:05 PM (#4400 - in reply to #4399) (#4400) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 460 Country : India | purifire posted @ 2011-05-13 10:05 PM Administrator - 2011-05-13 9:44 PM Starting this test, we are making one change If somebody doesn't want to include this test's results in LMI Ratings, they must unselect the checkbox. After clicking on "Start", the checkbox will be invisible. To add to what the Admin said, if a player does not uncheck the box then irrespective of whether they submit the answers or not, their scores will be taken into consideration for the ranking and that can affect their standings too. Rishi | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-14 12:20 PM (#4403 - in reply to #4400) (#4403) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 199 Country : United States | motris posted @ 2011-05-14 12:20 PM Thanks for a very fun test that went by too fast (I guess 101 is a rotationally symmetric number of minutes, but I think we'll all comment that we would have loved more time to be MAY-nipulated). Still, I worked a little past the test to finish everything up and enjoyed it all. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-14 1:17 PM (#4404 - in reply to #4403) (#4404) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 33 Country : Turkey | A Carton Mutant posted @ 2011-05-14 1:17 PM I'm really glad if it was enjoyable. About the time limit, it was adjusted from the times of the test-solvers (many thanks to them). Competitively solving must be more stressful though. I also have to say that some of the harder ones are difficult to start, then goes smoother. This may cause loss of time as well. Anyway, thanks for the nice feedback! Regards, Murat | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-14 6:25 PM (#4405 - in reply to #4404) (#4405) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 774 Country : India | rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-05-14 6:25 PM Very nice puzzles. Among the ones I could solve, I liked deformable kropki (bottom) very much - Kropki can indeed be fun with hidden black dots, although it took me quite a while to get the right idea. Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-05-14 6:26 PM | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-15 12:17 AM (#4406 - in reply to #4332) (#4406) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 11 Country : Canada | standupcanada posted @ 2011-05-15 12:17 AM I don't know that 1001 minutes would have saved me today. Fortunately I have a rather large set of enjoyable looking puzzles to dive into tomorrow. Thanks Murat. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-15 2:58 AM (#4407 - in reply to #4406) (#4407) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 28 Country : United Kingdom | puzzlemad posted @ 2011-05-15 2:58 AM standupcanada - 2011-05-15 12:17 AM I don't know that 1001 minutes would have saved me today. Fortunately I have a rather large set of enjoyable looking puzzles to dive into tomorrow. Thanks Murat. Similar sentiment from myself as well I'm afraid. Too many silly mistakes, including counting the bottom line on one of the corral instead of the one above it. STUPID me! Thankyou for a great set of puzzles, sorry I couldn't do them justice. | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-15 3:16 AM (#4408 - in reply to #4332) (#4408) Top | ||||||||||
Posts: 33 Country : Turkey | A Carton Mutant posted @ 2011-05-15 3:16 AM @standupcanada and puzzlemad: I'm sorry things didn't turn out as you had hoped. I should be the one thanking. Thanks for participating! | |||||||||
@ 2011-05-15 5:48 AM (#4409 - in reply to #4332) (#4409) Top | ||||||||||
Country : United States | MellowMelon posted @ 2011-05-15 5:48 AM Wow, that test really played to my strengths. Spiral galaxies, all kinds of path puzzles, grid jumping... just the Kropki and Skyscrapers that threw me a bit. Great fun! |