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@ 2020-05-02 10:01 PM (#28162 - in reply to #28127) (#28162) Top

aashay



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aashay posted @ 2020-05-02 10:01 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The quality of the sudokus was great, but I felt the sudokues were a bit on the harder side. I got stuck in the Antiknight for too long (still couldn't finish it) which ruined my test. These are perfect puzzles for untimed solving. Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh for the test!
@ 2020-05-03 3:34 PM (#28164 - in reply to #28127) (#28164) Top

pranavmanu



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pranavmanu posted @ 2020-05-03 3:34 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Bridge Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Thank you Harmeet and Ramesh for this test.
Was cruising along until i hit the Anti Knight,which was like a brick wall in my path.
Broke the consecutive 3 times and that doomed this round for me.
I didnt like the quality of the puzzles: being forced to guess on many, and especially Anti Knight felt more like a machine generated sudoku. I felt the difficulty was slightly above normal, but acceptably so.
I felt 15 points for Odd even bridge was too much, and that AK could have had more points.
Favourite is probably the Odd Even Bridge 9*9 and the Odd even Queen 6*6

Thank you
@ 2020-05-03 4:38 PM (#28165 - in reply to #28162) (#28165) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2020-05-03 4:38 PM

Spotting a naked single in r2c5 is crucial in the Anti-Knight. It is nice logic but such narrow steps tend to cause high variance in contests :)

Thanks for a fun contest btw Harmeet and Ramesh. My favourites were the Consecutive 9*9 and the Odd Even Bridge 9*9.
@ 2020-05-03 6:30 PM (#28166 - in reply to #28127) (#28166) Top

kishy72



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kishy72 posted @ 2020-05-03 6:30 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Below Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh for the contest and to Rakesh for the tremendous effort being put round after round.

Anti-Knight took me far too longer than I could have even dreamed.I had to guess on a guess to finish it and it was only due to my lucky stars that I was able to complete it despite bifurcating twice.

When I started on it, I spent around 15 mins and I could hardly see anything logical.After getting stuck, I waited and waited and waited .......for the logic to strike.Nothing came off it.So I guessed on that and even with the guess, I was stuck again.At this point, I decided to move on to salvage some points and tackle it later.

The next debacle came in the form of 10 pointer consecutive. Pushed for time (and a little irritated too) by this point after seeing nothing for a few minutes, I ventured out with a guess on consecutive also.The guess was "kind" enough to lead me to a no solution only after I solved about 60% of the sudoku.So I had to erase completely and again more time wasted than necessary on a mere 10 pointer.

Overall, it feels as if I don't deserve the points that I landed up as my solve in consecutive was completely crappy and my AK solve too wasn't upto the mark and thats what hurts.I guessed on a lot of sudokus.Perhaps, I should have sticked to my strategy and guessed in AK too right at the start somewhere.Also, I felt consecutive & perhaps AK too deserved more points than allotted.

To sum up, a contest I couldn't enjoy much because of the difficulty and the randomness in the solve paths.But seeing the result board tells me a different story and the poor show may entirely be due to my own shorcomings.

Favourites are Odd Even and Classics.
@ 2020-05-04 3:47 AM (#28167 - in reply to #28159) (#28167) Top

detuned



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detuned posted @ 2020-05-04 3:47 AM

TiiT - 2020-05-02 7:45 AM

My printer is a lack of yellow and therefore it didn't print the shaded squares and circles, odd-even bridges and consecutive bars. The gridlines came out perfectly. I had to redraw everything. Is it solvable issue? Maybe there should be 2 files - one with darker areas and solver can choose which one to pick.

But I know this is actually my problem. Have redrawing everithing since 2 gp rounds back already. Maybe I should buy new yellow toner.


The alternative is to force your printer to print in greyscale only. Ideally the PDF should be set up like this already so that the user doesn't even have to think about it, rather than saved with any kind of colour profile.

I welcome the lighter shades of grey in the files!
@ 2020-05-04 4:46 AM (#28168 - in reply to #28127) (#28168) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-05-04 4:46 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2020-05-04 12:07 PM (#28169 - in reply to #28127) (#28169) Top

vopani



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vopani posted @ 2020-05-04 12:07 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Queen Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Too hard to quantify how good this set is. A very well-balanced set and top quality sudokus. Enjoyed every one of them.

Favourites: 6x6 Odd Even Queen, 6x6 Odd Even Bridge, 9x9 Classic 1

Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh!
@ 2020-05-04 2:23 PM (#28170 - in reply to #28127) (#28170) Top

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purifire posted @ 2020-05-04 2:23 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


A really good set of puzzles. My favourites were Consecutive and OE Queen 9x9s. Really awesome constructs. I felt the AK could have had a few more points considering the very narrow path. Like Prasanna said, if you get R2C5 then puzzle opens up nicely, if not then you are left staring at the grid. Fortunately or unfortunately, I did not get the number directly and made a guess once I had narrowed it down to 2 possibilities. Am glad made the right choice.

It is really heartening to see such great quality puzzles.Awesome job Harmeet and Ramesh.

Edited by purifire 2020-05-04 2:34 PM
@ 2020-05-04 7:37 PM (#28171 - in reply to #28127) (#28171) Top

Kumaresan R



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Kumaresan R posted @ 2020-05-04 7:37 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Thanks Ramesh and Harmeet for giving good quality puzzles
@ 2020-05-04 8:16 PM (#28173 - in reply to #28127) (#28173) Top

ananya_90



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ananya_90 posted @ 2020-05-04 8:16 PM

Hi sir/madam
after the test has been completed before 90 mins i have clicked submit all answers i don't know whether it has been taken or not. can you confirm it?
@ 2020-05-04 8:20 PM (#28174 - in reply to #28127) (#28174) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-05-04 8:20 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2020-05-04 8:26 PM (#28175 - in reply to #28127) (#28175) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2020-05-04 8:26 PM

Hi sir/madam
after the test has been completed before 90 mins i have clicked submit all answers i don't know whether it has been taken or not. can you confirm it?
You can check the Score page and it seems your answers have been submitted.
@ 2020-05-04 9:13 PM (#28176 - in reply to #28127) (#28176) Top

sarb



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sarb posted @ 2020-05-04 9:13 PM


I had been trying to set things up for some days and had changed couple of browsers in the process. But the Start button does not show even for active running contests.
In some it says Plugin not supported and in others it does not even show anything. Could you please tell is it java applet plugin which is being used or something else like Flash?
@ 2020-05-04 10:54 PM (#28177 - in reply to #28127) (#28177) Top

Bansalpooja.b



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Bansalpooja.b posted @ 2020-05-04 10:54 PM

All sudokus were very good... enjoyed them all and yes they were on a difficult side as compared to other SM rounds... but very good mind boggling sudokus... We need such sudokus sometimes.
My favourites are antiknight, consecutive, and OE queen
Thank you Harmeet and Ramesh for such interesting sudokus

Edited by Bansalpooja.b 2020-05-04 10:55 PM
@ 2020-05-05 1:44 AM (#28178 - in reply to #28127) (#28178) Top

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Feadoor posted @ 2020-05-05 1:44 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Bridge Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2020-05-05 8:39 AM (#28179 - in reply to #28176) (#28179) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2020-05-05 8:39 AM

sarb - 2020-05-04 9:13 PM


I had been trying to set things up for some days and had changed couple of browsers in the process. But the Start button does not show even for active running contests.
In some it says Plugin not supported and in others it does not even show anything. Could you please tell is it java applet plugin which is being used or something else like Flash?

Flash
@ 2020-05-05 7:15 PM (#28181 - in reply to #28127) (#28181) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2020-05-05 7:15 PM

These are nice sudokus; but in a competition, I think it is way too difficult.
Once the difficulty reaches a certain threshold, it becomes more beneficial to guess.
For example; hacking at the Antiknight and coming to dead-ends might still be faster than trying to find R2C5 (which I didn't see).
Or in my case, choosing one of the main early branches [2,4 in R5C1,R5C9] of the OE Bridge still allowed me to finish in time despite trying out all the wrong steps in the wrong path earlier on.

These grids would be fun to try to find logical paths to, but in a race, there's just no time for that.
Thanks for the puzzles again! Nicely made.
@ 2020-05-05 9:50 PM (#28182 - in reply to #28127) (#28182) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-05-05 9:50 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2020-05-05 11:35 PM (#28186 - in reply to #28127) (#28186) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2020-05-05 11:35 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Classic Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2020-05-06 8:32 AM (#28194 - in reply to #28127) (#28194) Top

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sunderramanv posted @ 2020-05-06 8:32 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Queen Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


The set of puzles were quite good, though I felt many of the variant 9*9 puzzles were tough
@ 2020-05-06 10:11 AM (#28195 - in reply to #28127) (#28195) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2020-05-06 10:11 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Anti Knight Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2020-05-06 2:45 PM (#28196 - in reply to #28127) (#28196) Top

fal_94



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fal_94 posted @ 2020-05-06 2:45 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Consecutive Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2020-05-06 6:38 PM (#28197 - in reply to #28127) (#28197) Top

akash.doulani



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akash.doulani posted @ 2020-05-06 6:38 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


Since I neither had a printer nor a mouse at home, i had to copy the digits for 9x9 sudokus and draw the grids for 6x6. That took a lot of time since I had forgotten to mark the answer keys and had to scroll up and down for marking them. I started with 9x9 classics . On the variants side, I started with consecutive , couldnt proceed after some initial digits. Then I was completely stuck in anti knight. To my bad luck , I broke the odd even as well. I even logged out when around 25 minutes were left. Then I thought of submitting the classics I had solved and also attempting some 6x6 sudokus. The test was definitely one of the hardest that I have seen in Sudoku Mahabharat.
@ 2020-05-06 8:30 PM (#28199 - in reply to #28127) (#28199) Top

gaurav.kjain



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gaurav.kjain posted @ 2020-05-06 8:30 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Odd Even Bridge Sudoku
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


I am seeing that SM2020 is on harder side except first round which was well balanced.
I genuinely feel that for this round is really on harder side specially, Antiknight which looked laborious to me unless I missed some obvious better deductions.
Overall puzzle qualities if I see are very good but may not fit SM theme.
Thanks Harmeet and Ramesh.
@ 2020-05-07 1:56 AM (#28200 - in reply to #28199) (#28200) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2020-05-07 1:56 AM

Anti Knight walkthrough


Here is a Walkthrough of the 9x9 Anti Knight by the author.

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