@ 2020-01-24 9:22 PM (#27467 - in reply to #27454) (#27467) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 145 Country : France | auroux posted @ 2020-01-24 9:22 PM
This test was problematic in several ways. First, managing to mess up a 6x6 sudoku is quite unfortunate. Errors do happen, but I lost at least 5 minutes trying to understand my error when the error was in the PB. Having a test-solver work on the actual PB would have idetified this issue. I also second the above post pointing out that #19 has two solutions. More importantly, the point values and difficulty levels of the puzzles were completely ridiculous. The kakuro puzzles were very advanced while everything else was extremely easy. It was as if this set was written for kakuro experts who have never seen any of the other puzzle types. The B&W, thermometers, and hitori puzzles were quite easy (as they should be for PR) and inexplicably given large point values, while the kakuro puzzles were quite abrupt and required advanced reasoning (I am normally quite good at kakuro, so either I am having a terrible day or the author really mis-judged the respective difficulty levels of the puzzles). Edited by auroux 2020-01-24 9:27 PM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-24 10:28 PM (#27468 - in reply to #27454) (#27468) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 7 Country : Poland | TS279 posted @ 2020-01-24 10:28 PM
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@ 2020-01-24 10:34 PM (#27469 - in reply to #27454) (#27469) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 72 Country : South Korea | Joo M.Y posted @ 2020-01-24 10:34 PM
Well, this test was Kakuro round? :P Edited by Joo M.Y 2020-01-24 10:39 PM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-24 10:51 PM (#27470 - in reply to #27454) (#27470) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 25 Country : United Kingdom | Puzzle_Maestro posted @ 2020-01-24 10:51 PM
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@ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM (#27471 - in reply to #27454) (#27471) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 49 Country : France | Kithyane posted @ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM I agree with above posts about puzzle 19 : there are two solutions, and one is not accepted (I submitted a claim for that). | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM (#27472 - in reply to #27454) (#27472) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 241 Country : Indonesia | chaotic_iak posted @ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM
I don't know how I feel about this test. Puzzle quality is overall nice; it's other things that bothered me. For a round titled "Classics", genre balance feels off. There's no object placement, loop, or region division (Numberlink feels like its own category as "intuitive puzzles"), and a lot of the high-pointers are the Kakuros (7,8,9 vanilla and 8,9 Kakurodoku?), putting too much emphasis there. I'd include things like Simple Loop or ABC Block, and make one of the Kakuros much easier. Also, I believe the first BWG has multiple solutions. EDIT: Oh, also, the last Kakuro has an obvious aesthetic defect. Edited by chaotic_iak 2020-01-25 12:38 AM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 12:42 AM (#27473 - in reply to #27454) (#27473) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2020-01-25 12:42 AM Edited by An LMI player 2020-01-31 8:04 PM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 1:32 AM (#27474 - in reply to #27454) (#27474) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 170 Country : Germany | rob posted @ 2020-01-25 1:32 AM Those extra solutions in puzzle 19 threw me for a bit of a loop, particularly since I seem to have managed to typo on the alternate solution, thus was convinced I'd made an error elsewhere myself. Also I tripped over the limited kakuro number set once again (even though I took note of this when first reading the instructions...). | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 2:54 AM (#27475 - in reply to #27454) (#27475) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2020-01-25 2:54 AM
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@ 2020-01-25 4:35 AM (#27476 - in reply to #27454) (#27476) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 65 Country : United States | WA1729 posted @ 2020-01-25 4:35 AM
Thank you! I'm getting the same multiple solution problem in 19 that other people have mentioned. Also, the points felt too skewed towards the Kakuro puzzles. Favorites: 6 Black and White 15 Kakuro 18 Sudoku | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 9:03 AM (#27477 - in reply to #27454) (#27477) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 54 Country : United States | Timjamiller posted @ 2020-01-25 9:03 AM I was not allowed to submit my final answer for my final problem in the final minute of the exam. It did not register that I had 8 digits in place, though I did, and thus I was unable to click the submit button. I don't know what can be done to rectify this situation at this moment, but I would really like to be able to submit my result. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 9:25 AM (#27478 - in reply to #27454) (#27478) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2020-01-25 9:25 AM
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@ 2020-01-25 9:38 AM (#27479 - in reply to #27477) (#27479) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 54 Country : United States | Timjamiller posted @ 2020-01-25 9:38 AM Timjamiller - 2020-01-25 12:03 AM I was not allowed to submit my final answer for my final problem in the final minute of the exam. It did not register that I had 8 digits in place, though I did, and thus I was unable to click the submit button. I don't know what can be done to rectify this situation at this moment, but I would really like to be able to submit my result. And now I see what happened. I know that I should have fully paid attention to the instructions and whatnot, but having the N = so far to the right made it obscured, and I didn't recognize that rule until pretty much just now. So now I'm mad at myself for having missed that, especially because I could've probably finished the test. Ugh. Edit: Perhaps it could be placed on both the left side and the right side, so that it's not obscured by right-handers' writing hands. Edited by Timjamiller 2020-01-25 9:48 AM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 12:09 PM (#27480 - in reply to #27454) (#27480) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 102 Country : United States | ghirsch posted @ 2020-01-25 12:09 PM
Echoing what others have said, it's frustrating to have puzzles with multiple solutions (19, and it sounds like 16 based on the correction). And also like others said, it took me far too long to recognize that the Kakuro and Kakurodoku use 1-N instead of 1-9. Definitely my fault for not noticing, but since Kakuro nearly always use 1-9, it could have been nice to have a more glaring message like "THESE PUZZLES DO NOT USE 1-9" since I imagine many other more experienced folks also tend to skim the rules, especially when the contest is labeled as "Classics". And agreeing with others that too much weight was placed on Kakuro, and number placement puzzles generally (both in terms of points, and puzzle type selection). | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 2:36 PM (#27481 - in reply to #27454) (#27481) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 2 Country : India | SN Sam posted @ 2020-01-25 2:36 PM
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@ 2020-01-25 5:08 PM (#27487 - in reply to #27454) (#27487) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 17 Country : Hungary | Gyuszi13 posted @ 2020-01-25 5:08 PM
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@ 2020-01-25 6:59 PM (#27489 - in reply to #27454) (#27489) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 55 Country : India | pranavmanu posted @ 2020-01-25 6:59 PM
Enjoyable test.Should have completed it... Had a good amount of time for the 2 Black White and Greys but wasnt able to figure them out Kakurodoku 1,Kakuro 2 and 3 and Thermometer 2 and 3 were my favourites of the lot Felt that Thermometer 2 was harder than 3 Answer keys were reasonably good Thank you Rakesh for the smooth start to PR 2020! Edit :On seeing above comments,I have to say that BWG 1 seems to have 2 solutions and i cant find the mistake in mine.I thought mine was wrong and spent the rest of my time on it without trying BWG 2 deeply enough because of this!.Chance for bonus points missed! :( Edited by pranavmanu 2020-01-25 7:04 PM | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 9:44 PM (#27490 - in reply to #27454) (#27490) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2020-01-25 9:44 PM Puzzle 19The puzzle has two solutions, as noted by some of the participants. Both answers will be accepted as correct. For those who have already taken the test, the penalty will be removed and an adjustment shall be made based on the approximate time lost. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 9:45 PM (#27491 - in reply to #27489) (#27491) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 103 Country : Serbia | Nikola posted @ 2020-01-25 9:45 PM That was nice and relaxing test, despite the mistakes. Thanks Rakesh. I am positively surprised to see three classic sudokus in a puzzle contest. I don't remember ever seeing that. Hope this is the beginning of sudoku's return to puzzle competitions in all its appearances. | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-25 10:44 PM (#27492 - in reply to #27454) (#27492) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 5 Country : Indonesia | JoeGun posted @ 2020-01-25 10:44 PM
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@ 2020-01-26 10:19 AM (#27493 - in reply to #27454) (#27493) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2020-01-26 10:19 AM
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@ 2020-01-26 12:28 PM (#27494 - in reply to #27454) (#27494) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1 Country : India | Latha posted @ 2020-01-26 12:28 PM not able to download the puzzle | ||||||||||||||||||
@ 2020-01-26 2:52 PM (#27495 - in reply to #27454) (#27495) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2020-01-26 2:52 PM
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@ 2020-01-26 4:14 PM (#27496 - in reply to #27454) (#27496) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2020-01-26 4:14 PM
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@ 2020-01-26 4:43 PM (#27497 - in reply to #27454) (#27497) Top | |||||||||||||||||||
Posts: 5 Country : India | anithra posted @ 2020-01-26 4:43 PM
Completely missed the number limit for the kakuros(my bad). Didnt think of reading instructions for a regulation kakuro. Lesson learnt!. But that said, maybe the name could be changed to Limited Kakuro or something like that? Was also wondering how i could get stuck in a 6*6 sudoko.. No idea how to claim those points. Im also confused about the 2nd Numberlink puzzle. Dont understand why my answer is wrong. Realized after the test that Hitori and the other puzzles were much easier than the kakuros. |