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Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020
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Kithyane
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM (#27471 - in reply to #27454) (#27471) Top




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I agree with above posts about puzzle 19 : there are two solutions, and one is not accepted (I submitted a claim for that).
chaotic_iak
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 12:34 AM (#27472 - in reply to #27454) (#27472) Top



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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Thermometer
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I don't know how I feel about this test. Puzzle quality is overall nice; it's other things that bothered me.

For a round titled "Classics", genre balance feels off. There's no object placement, loop, or region division (Numberlink feels like its own category as "intuitive puzzles"), and a lot of the high-pointers are the Kakuros (7,8,9 vanilla and 8,9 Kakurodoku?), putting too much emphasis there. I'd include things like Simple Loop or ABC Block, and make one of the Kakuros much easier.

Also, I believe the first BWG has multiple solutions.

EDIT: Oh, also, the last Kakuro has an obvious aesthetic defect.

Edited by chaotic_iak 2020-01-25 12:38 AM
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 12:42 AM (#27473 - in reply to #27454) (#27473) Top






Edited by An LMI player 2020-01-31 8:04 PM
rob
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 1:32 AM (#27474 - in reply to #27454) (#27474) Top


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Those extra solutions in puzzle 19 threw me for a bit of a loop, particularly since I seem to have managed to typo on the alternate solution, thus was convinced I'd made an error elsewhere myself.

Also I tripped over the limited kakuro number set once again (even though I took note of this when first reading the instructions...).
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 2:54 AM (#27475 - in reply to #27454) (#27475) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakurodoku
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


WA1729
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 4:35 AM (#27476 - in reply to #27454) (#27476) Top


Shading and Loops (PR 2016/17) Author

Posts: 40
2020
Location: USA
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Sudoku
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thank you!

I'm getting the same multiple solution problem in 19 that other people have mentioned. Also, the points felt too skewed towards the Kakuro puzzles.

Favorites:

6 Black and White
15 Kakuro
18 Sudoku
Timjamiller
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 9:03 AM (#27477 - in reply to #27454) (#27477) Top




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I was not allowed to submit my final answer for my final problem in the final minute of the exam. It did not register that I had 8 digits in place, though I did, and thus I was unable to click the submit button. I don't know what can be done to rectify this situation at this moment, but I would really like to be able to submit my result.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 9:25 AM (#27478 - in reply to #27454) (#27478) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Timjamiller
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 9:38 AM (#27479 - in reply to #27477) (#27479) Top




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Timjamiller - 2020-01-25 12:03 AM

I was not allowed to submit my final answer for my final problem in the final minute of the exam. It did not register that I had 8 digits in place, though I did, and thus I was unable to click the submit button. I don't know what can be done to rectify this situation at this moment, but I would really like to be able to submit my result.


And now I see what happened. I know that I should have fully paid attention to the instructions and whatnot, but having the N = so far to the right made it obscured, and I didn't recognize that rule until pretty much just now. So now I'm mad at myself for having missed that, especially because I could've probably finished the test. Ugh. Edit: Perhaps it could be placed on both the left side and the right side, so that it's not obscured by right-handers' writing hands.

Edited by Timjamiller 2020-01-25 9:48 AM
ghirsch
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 12:09 PM (#27480 - in reply to #27454) (#27480) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Echoing what others have said, it's frustrating to have puzzles with multiple solutions (19, and it sounds like 16 based on the correction).

And also like others said, it took me far too long to recognize that the Kakuro and Kakurodoku use 1-N instead of 1-9. Definitely my fault for not noticing, but since Kakuro nearly always use 1-9, it could have been nice to have a more glaring message like "THESE PUZZLES DO NOT USE 1-9" since I imagine many other more experienced folks also tend to skim the rules, especially when the contest is labeled as "Classics".

And agreeing with others that too much weight was placed on Kakuro, and number placement puzzles generally (both in terms of points, and puzzle type selection).
SN Sam
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 2:36 PM (#27481 - in reply to #27454) (#27481) Top




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Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Gyuszi13
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 5:08 PM (#27487 - in reply to #27454) (#27487) Top




Posts: 15

Location: Hungary
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakurodoku
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


pranavmanu
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 6:59 PM (#27489 - in reply to #27454) (#27489) Top




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Location: india
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Enjoyable test.Should have completed it... Had a good amount of time for the 2 Black White and Greys but wasnt able to figure them out

Kakurodoku 1,Kakuro 2 and 3 and Thermometer 2 and 3 were my favourites of the lot
Felt that Thermometer 2 was harder than 3
Answer keys were reasonably good
Thank you Rakesh for the smooth start to PR 2020!


Edit :On seeing above comments,I have to say that BWG 1 seems to have 2 solutions and i cant find the mistake in mine.I thought mine was wrong and spent the rest of my time on it without trying BWG 2 deeply enough because of this!.Chance for bonus points missed! :(

Edited by pranavmanu 2020-01-25 7:04 PM
Administrator
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 9:44 PM (#27490 - in reply to #27454) (#27490) Top


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Puzzle 19


The puzzle has two solutions, as noted by some of the participants. Both answers will be accepted as correct.

For those who have already taken the test, the penalty will be removed and an adjustment shall be made based on the approximate time lost.

Nikola
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 9:45 PM (#27491 - in reply to #27489) (#27491) Top


Sudoku Day Author

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That was nice and relaxing test, despite the mistakes. Thanks Rakesh.

I am positively surprised to see three classic sudokus in a puzzle contest. I don't remember ever seeing that. Hope this is the beginning of sudoku's return to puzzle competitions in all its appearances.
JoeGun
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-25 10:44 PM (#27492 - in reply to #27454) (#27492) Top




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Location: Indonesia
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 10:19 AM (#27493 - in reply to #27454) (#27493) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Thermometer
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Latha
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 12:28 PM (#27494 - in reply to #27454) (#27494) Top




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not able to download the puzzle
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 2:52 PM (#27495 - in reply to #27454) (#27495) Top


 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Thermometer
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


kishy72
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 4:14 PM (#27496 - in reply to #27454) (#27496) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Kakuro
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


anithra
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 4:43 PM (#27497 - in reply to #27454) (#27497) Top




Posts: 5

Location: india
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Thermometer
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


Completely missed the number limit for the kakuros(my bad). Didnt think of reading instructions for a regulation kakuro. Lesson learnt!. But that said, maybe the name could be changed to Limited Kakuro or something like that?

Was also wondering how i could get stuck in a 6*6 sudoko.. No idea how to claim those points.

Im also confused about the 2nd Numberlink puzzle. Dont understand why my answer is wrong.

Realized after the test that Hitori and the other puzzles were much easier than the kakuros.
An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 5:02 PM (#27498 - in reply to #27454) (#27498) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 5:23 PM (#27499 - in reply to #27454) (#27499) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Black and White and Grey
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


An LMI player
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 8:06 PM (#27500 - in reply to #27454) (#27500) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


priyambhushan
Subject: Re: Classics - 24th - 28th Jan 2020 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier 2020 @ 2020-01-26 11:56 PM (#27501 - in reply to #27454) (#27501) Top




Posts: 16

Location: India
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Thermometer
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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