Thread - LMI November Puzzle Test

@ 2010-11-21 8:29 AM (#2599 - in reply to #2598) (#2599) Top

purifire

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purifire posted @ 2010-11-21 8:29 AM

debmohanty - 2010-11-21 8:24 AM

purifire - 2010-11-21 8:14 AM
yes that is exactly the kind of contest that is being proposed with no time limit

I'm not sure what you mean by "exactly that kind". I thought Headshrinkers is about (very-)hard Sudokus, and that is why the contest has no time-limit.
The purpose is completely different here.

When I say exactly that kind of contest I mean a contest with no time limit... I am not referring to the difficulty level of the puzzles....

The discussion here is about a competition which does not have a time limit. However this type of contest is possible only in an online format ... unless a separate pdf is created for individual puzzles and time for each puzzle calculated when the pwd for individual puzzle is taken from the site.

Rishi

@ 2010-11-21 11:55 AM (#2600 - in reply to #2599) (#2600) Top

SrikanthB

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SrikanthB posted @ 2010-11-21 11:55 AM

Very nice set of puzzles, David!
It was nice solving some JUST ARITHMETIC puzzles (Sequences, Strips), instead of the regular GRID-based logic puzzles

Also, for a change, the timing was nice - short and sweet (though i could solve hardly few of them)

Edited by SrikanthB 2010-11-21 11:56 AM

@ 2010-11-21 12:10 PM (#2601 - in reply to #2465) (#2601) Top

keshava.hs

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keshava.hs posted @ 2010-11-21 12:10 PM

Hi David,

Amazing set of puzzles!

Thanks a ton for making my week-end thrilling.

Flip n Sequence & 0-2-5 Mirror was great!

3 Cheers,
Keshav

Edited by keshava.hs 2010-11-21 12:12 PM

@ 2010-11-21 5:26 PM (#2603 - in reply to #2465) (#2603) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2010-11-21 5:26 PM

while submitting the answer for flip shape sudoku , we were asked to submit the answer for the 7th row of the first sudoku, but there was also no. 4 marked in an arrow on the left side of the first sudoku. so i thought we had to type row 4 for the answer. so i got it wrong. it will be very kind of the administrators to look into the matter and if possible consider row 4 as my answer and if correct , grant me points for that.......... akash

@ 2010-11-21 5:34 PM (#2604 - in reply to #2603) (#2604) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-21 5:34 PM

akash.doulani - 2010-11-21 5:26 PM

while submitting the answer for flip shape sudoku , we were asked to submit the answer for the 7th row of the first sudoku, but there was also no. 4 marked in an arrow on the left side of the first sudoku. so i thought we had to type row 4 for the answer. so i got it wrong. it will be very kind of the administrators to look into the matter and if possible consider row 4 as my answer and if correct , grant me points for that.......... akash

Done
Hope you liked the puzzles.

@ 2010-11-21 6:10 PM (#2605 - in reply to #2604) (#2605) Top

Gotroch

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Gotroch posted @ 2010-11-21 6:10 PM

Administrator - 2010-11-21 5:34 PM

Done
Hope you liked the puzzles.

Same thing Akash mentioned, happened to me. Could you please grant me points too.

@ 2010-11-21 6:11 PM (#2606 - in reply to #2605) (#2606) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-21 6:11 PM

Gotroch - 2010-11-21 6:10 PM
Same thing Akash mentioned, happened to me. Could you please grant me points too.

Done

@ 2010-11-21 11:04 PM (#2611 - in reply to #2465) (#2611) Top

PuzzleScot

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PuzzleScot posted @ 2010-11-21 11:04 PM

I entered the wrong key for #4 - I put in the contents of the greyed area rather than the arrowed rows. Any chance of upgrading my score from 'disastrous' to just 'miserable' ?
Nice puzzles - not enough time for me. Will enjoy them later... Thank-you for the contest!

@ 2010-11-21 11:09 PM (#2612 - in reply to #2611) (#2612) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-21 11:09 PM

PuzzleScot - 2010-11-21 11:04 PM

I entered the wrong key for #4 - I put in the contents of the greyed area rather than the arrowed rows. Any chance of upgrading my score from 'disastrous' to just 'miserable' ?

Done

@ 2010-11-22 1:39 AM (#2613 - in reply to #2465) (#2613) Top

willwc

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willwc posted @ 2010-11-22 1:39 AM

If someone could check my entry for #1, it would be appreciated. I can't really explain it here without giving away part of the solution, but I think the error there should be fairly clear to someone who looks at it. (Unfortunately, the other 0's I submitted are all legitimately incorrect solutions

)

Thanks to David for the interesting puzzle set, and especially to everyone affiliated with LMI who contributes to administering these contests every month.

@ 2010-11-22 1:44 AM (#2614 - in reply to #2465) (#2614) Top

drsteve

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drsteve posted @ 2010-11-22 1:44 AM

David and Deb

Great test, lots of fun, although as a Maths teacher, I could have done with less adding up.

Time seemed fine to me - I wouldn't expect to finish one of these (and I didn't, obviously) - maybe 60 minutes would have been better, but I still wouldn't have caught the thing that caused me to waste a lot of time on one puzzle (won't say what for fear of spoilers)

Cheers

@ 2010-11-22 2:25 AM (#2615 - in reply to #2465) (#2615) Top

rodders

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rodders posted @ 2010-11-22 2:25 AM

Very enjoyable set of tests.

I realise I have entered the incorrect key for #4. I entered the bottom row of both puzzles rather than the 3rd row of the right hand puzzle. I'm relatively confident I have the correct solution, although of course won't give it away here. Any chance of rescuing some points for that puzzle???

@ 2010-11-22 2:46 AM (#2616 - in reply to #2465) (#2616) Top

radekivv

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radekivv posted @ 2010-11-22 2:46 AM

Would it be possible to check my answer to #7? I separated lines by commas and the system did not like it. Thanks.

@ 2010-11-22 2:57 AM (#2617 - in reply to #2465) (#2617) Top

radekivv

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radekivv posted @ 2010-11-22 2:57 AM

Dave, thanks for a very nice set of puzzles! I will definitely finish the remaining ones not to miss any fun :-).

@ 2010-11-22 3:23 AM (#2618 - in reply to #2612) (#2618) Top

davep

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davep posted @ 2010-11-22 3:23 AM

Hi Deb -
I also entered the yellow-outlined areas on #4 as my answers

....

In any case, compliments to David for some very clever puzzles (I ran out of time, so I will enjoy Deb's ESB later).

Best regards

Dave

Edited by davep 2010-11-22 3:24 AM

@ 2010-11-22 4:04 AM (#2619 - in reply to #2465) (#2619) Top

ostroffj

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ostroffj posted @ 2010-11-22 4:04 AM

Aw, I had my first typo when entering one of the FLIP 'n' Fills. And it knocked me down a bonus point bracket!

If it helps, my typo implies that a number ending in a 0 was flipped (which is clearly false). But I can understand being strict about this, and it's not like I'm really in contention for a top score anyway.

@ 2010-11-22 7:31 AM (#2620 - in reply to #2465) (#2620) Top

detuned

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detuned posted @ 2010-11-22 7:31 AM

Deb - I think there's a bug with regards to the puzzle rating system. I can't seem to give a rating for the two puzzles I had a manual override on the score.

For what it's worth, I thought #3 was a 6/10 and #12 was an 8/10.

@ 2010-11-22 8:18 AM (#2621 - in reply to #2620) (#2621) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-22 8:18 AM

detuned - 2010-11-22 7:31 AM

Deb - I think there's a bug with regards to the puzzle rating system. I can't seem to give a rating for the two puzzles I had a manual override on the score.

For what it's worth, I thought #3 was a 6/10 and #12 was an 8/10.

Will have a look before next test. For now, I've added your ratings for the two specified puzzles.

@ 2010-11-22 8:36 AM (#2622 - in reply to #2621) (#2622) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:36 AM

willwc - 2010-11-22 1:39 AM
If someone could check my entry for #1, it would be appreciated. I can't really explain it here without giving away part of the solution, but I think the error there should be fairly clear to someone who looks at it. (Unfortunately, the other 0's I submitted are all legitimately incorrect solutions

)

~~Correct answer 2FGHJ. Your answer 2FGHI.~~
Marked correct.

rodders - 2010-11-22 2:25 AM
I realise I have entered the incorrect key for #4. I entered the bottom row of both puzzles rather than the 3rd row of the right hand puzzle. I'm relatively confident I have the correct solution, although of course won't give it away here. Any chance of rescuing some points for that puzzle???

davep - 2010-11-22 3:23 AM
I also entered the yellow-outlined areas on #4 as my answers

....

Done
Many players did this. Given points to both you and others

radekivv - 2010-11-22 2:46 AM
Would it be possible to check my answer to #7? I separated lines by commas and the system did not like it. Thanks.

Many players did this. Given points to you and all others (even who didn't claim).

@ 2010-11-22 8:44 AM (#2623 - in reply to #2465) (#2623) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:44 AM

Checked all submissions for manual overrides. There is none as far as I can see.
Results are frozen now.

@ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM (#2624 - in reply to #2465) (#2624) Top

ostroffj

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ostroffj posted @ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM

Admin, I think willwc's point is that there is no row I: the rows read ABCDEFGHJK. So by "I" he meant "the thing after H".

@ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM (#2625 - in reply to #2465) (#2625) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM

Congratulations to Thomas Snyder and Hideaki Jo for topping in FLIP. Only 2 players to complete, and by what a margin - 18 minutes remaining. Only few seconds separating them apart.
Nikola continued his trend of single-puzzle-mistake from Renban. He would have otherwise got 9 minutes bonus.

In Indian ladder, Rakesh converted his 'good performance in Renban' into a 'great performance in FLIP'. And we've Keshava at 3rd position among Indian participants. Well done, Keshava and hope to see you do better in upcoming tests.

@ 2010-11-22 9:01 AM (#2626 - in reply to #2624) (#2626) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:01 AM

ostroffj - 2010-11-22 8:54 AM

Admin, I think willwc's point is that there is no row I: the rows read ABCDEFGHJK. So by "I" he meant "the thing after H".

That was careless from me. Sorry willwc. Thanks ostroffj for pointing.
3 players did the same mistake.
pushpa.mr
RJH0723
willwc
All of them get full points.
willwc's score is 360 now, and he moves to 15th position.

@ 2010-11-22 9:07 AM (#2627 - in reply to #2626) (#2627) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:07 AM

Slightly lesser participants compared to the last two LMI tests.
98 out of 115 players got non-zero scores. Thank you everyone for participating.

Those who could not participate should try to solve and enjoy the puzzles at leisure.

@ 2010-11-22 9:13 AM (#2629 - in reply to #2465) (#2629) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:13 AM

Next monthly test


	@ 2010-11-21 8:29 AM (#2599 - in reply to #2598) (#2599) Top
purifire Posts: 460 Country : India	purifire posted @ 2010-11-21 8:29 AM debmohanty - 2010-11-21 8:24 AM purifire - 2010-11-21 8:14 AM yes that is exactly the kind of contest that is being proposed with no time limit I'm not sure what you mean by "exactly that kind". I thought Headshrinkers is about (very-)hard Sudokus, and that is why the contest has no time-limit. The purpose is completely different here. When I say exactly that kind of contest I mean a contest with no time limit... I am not referring to the difficulty level of the puzzles.... The discussion here is about a competition which does not have a time limit. However this type of contest is possible only in an online format ... unless a separate pdf is created for individual puzzles and time for each puzzle calculated when the pwd for individual puzzle is taken from the site. Rishi
	@ 2010-11-21 11:55 AM (#2600 - in reply to #2599) (#2600) Top
SrikanthB Posts: 5 Country : India	SrikanthB posted @ 2010-11-21 11:55 AM Very nice set of puzzles, David! It was nice solving some JUST ARITHMETIC puzzles (Sequences, Strips), instead of the regular GRID-based logic puzzles Also, for a change, the timing was nice - short and sweet (though i could solve hardly few of them) Edited by SrikanthB 2010-11-21 11:56 AM
	@ 2010-11-21 12:10 PM (#2601 - in reply to #2465) (#2601) Top
keshava.hs Posts: 10 Country : India	keshava.hs posted @ 2010-11-21 12:10 PM Hi David, Amazing set of puzzles! Thanks a ton for making my week-end thrilling. Flip n Sequence & 0-2-5 Mirror was great! 3 Cheers, Keshav Edited by keshava.hs 2010-11-21 12:12 PM
	@ 2010-11-21 5:26 PM (#2603 - in reply to #2465) (#2603) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2010-11-21 5:26 PM while submitting the answer for flip shape sudoku , we were asked to submit the answer for the 7th row of the first sudoku, but there was also no. 4 marked in an arrow on the left side of the first sudoku. so i thought we had to type row 4 for the answer. so i got it wrong. it will be very kind of the administrators to look into the matter and if possible consider row 4 as my answer and if correct , grant me points for that.......... akash
	@ 2010-11-21 5:34 PM (#2604 - in reply to #2603) (#2604) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-21 5:34 PM akash.doulani - 2010-11-21 5:26 PM while submitting the answer for flip shape sudoku , we were asked to submit the answer for the 7th row of the first sudoku, but there was also no. 4 marked in an arrow on the left side of the first sudoku. so i thought we had to type row 4 for the answer. so i got it wrong. it will be very kind of the administrators to look into the matter and if possible consider row 4 as my answer and if correct , grant me points for that.......... akash Done Hope you liked the puzzles.
	@ 2010-11-21 6:10 PM (#2605 - in reply to #2604) (#2605) Top
Gotroch Posts: 83 Country : Czech Republic	Gotroch posted @ 2010-11-21 6:10 PM Administrator - 2010-11-21 5:34 PM akash.doulani - 2010-11-21 5:26 PM while submitting the answer for flip shape sudoku , we were asked to submit the answer for the 7th row of the first sudoku, but there was also no. 4 marked in an arrow on the left side of the first sudoku. so i thought we had to type row 4 for the answer. so i got it wrong. it will be very kind of the administrators to look into the matter and if possible consider row 4 as my answer and if correct , grant me points for that.......... akash Done Hope you liked the puzzles. Same thing Akash mentioned, happened to me. Could you please grant me points too.
	@ 2010-11-21 6:11 PM (#2606 - in reply to #2605) (#2606) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-21 6:11 PM Gotroch - 2010-11-21 6:10 PM Same thing Akash mentioned, happened to me. Could you please grant me points too. Done
	@ 2010-11-21 11:04 PM (#2611 - in reply to #2465) (#2611) Top
PuzzleScot Posts: 31 Country : United Kingdom	PuzzleScot posted @ 2010-11-21 11:04 PM I entered the wrong key for #4 - I put in the contents of the greyed area rather than the arrowed rows. Any chance of upgrading my score from 'disastrous' to just 'miserable' ? Nice puzzles - not enough time for me. Will enjoy them later... Thank-you for the contest!
	@ 2010-11-21 11:09 PM (#2612 - in reply to #2611) (#2612) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-21 11:09 PM PuzzleScot - 2010-11-21 11:04 PM I entered the wrong key for #4 - I put in the contents of the greyed area rather than the arrowed rows. Any chance of upgrading my score from 'disastrous' to just 'miserable' ? Done
	@ 2010-11-22 1:39 AM (#2613 - in reply to #2465) (#2613) Top
willwc Posts: 12 Country : United States	willwc posted @ 2010-11-22 1:39 AM If someone could check my entry for #1, it would be appreciated. I can't really explain it here without giving away part of the solution, but I think the error there should be fairly clear to someone who looks at it. (Unfortunately, the other 0's I submitted are all legitimately incorrect solutions ) Thanks to David for the interesting puzzle set, and especially to everyone affiliated with LMI who contributes to administering these contests every month.
	@ 2010-11-22 1:44 AM (#2614 - in reply to #2465) (#2614) Top
drsteve Posts: 12 Country : United Kingdom	drsteve posted @ 2010-11-22 1:44 AM David and Deb Great test, lots of fun, although as a Maths teacher, I could have done with less adding up. Time seemed fine to me - I wouldn't expect to finish one of these (and I didn't, obviously) - maybe 60 minutes would have been better, but I still wouldn't have caught the thing that caused me to waste a lot of time on one puzzle (won't say what for fear of spoilers) Cheers
	@ 2010-11-22 2:25 AM (#2615 - in reply to #2465) (#2615) Top
rodders Posts: 4 Country : United Kingdom	rodders posted @ 2010-11-22 2:25 AM Very enjoyable set of tests. I realise I have entered the incorrect key for #4. I entered the bottom row of both puzzles rather than the 3rd row of the right hand puzzle. I'm relatively confident I have the correct solution, although of course won't give it away here. Any chance of rescuing some points for that puzzle???
	@ 2010-11-22 2:46 AM (#2616 - in reply to #2465) (#2616) Top
radekivv Posts: 13 Country : United States	radekivv posted @ 2010-11-22 2:46 AM Would it be possible to check my answer to #7? I separated lines by commas and the system did not like it. Thanks.
	@ 2010-11-22 2:57 AM (#2617 - in reply to #2465) (#2617) Top
radekivv Posts: 13 Country : United States	radekivv posted @ 2010-11-22 2:57 AM Dave, thanks for a very nice set of puzzles! I will definitely finish the remaining ones not to miss any fun :-).
	@ 2010-11-22 3:23 AM (#2618 - in reply to #2612) (#2618) Top
davep Posts: 43 Country : United States	davep posted @ 2010-11-22 3:23 AM Hi Deb - I also entered the yellow-outlined areas on #4 as my answers .... In any case, compliments to David for some very clever puzzles (I ran out of time, so I will enjoy Deb's ESB later). Best regards Dave Edited by davep 2010-11-22 3:24 AM
	@ 2010-11-22 4:04 AM (#2619 - in reply to #2465) (#2619) Top
ostroffj Posts: 10 Country : United States	ostroffj posted @ 2010-11-22 4:04 AM Aw, I had my first typo when entering one of the FLIP 'n' Fills. And it knocked me down a bonus point bracket! If it helps, my typo implies that a number ending in a 0 was flipped (which is clearly false). But I can understand being strict about this, and it's not like I'm really in contention for a top score anyway.
	@ 2010-11-22 7:31 AM (#2620 - in reply to #2465) (#2620) Top
detuned Posts: 152 Country : United Kingdom	detuned posted @ 2010-11-22 7:31 AM Deb - I think there's a bug with regards to the puzzle rating system. I can't seem to give a rating for the two puzzles I had a manual override on the score. For what it's worth, I thought #3 was a 6/10 and #12 was an 8/10.
	@ 2010-11-22 8:18 AM (#2621 - in reply to #2620) (#2621) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2010-11-22 8:18 AM detuned - 2010-11-22 7:31 AM Deb - I think there's a bug with regards to the puzzle rating system. I can't seem to give a rating for the two puzzles I had a manual override on the score. For what it's worth, I thought #3 was a 6/10 and #12 was an 8/10. Will have a look before next test. For now, I've added your ratings for the two specified puzzles.
	@ 2010-11-22 8:36 AM (#2622 - in reply to #2621) (#2622) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:36 AM willwc - 2010-11-22 1:39 AM If someone could check my entry for #1, it would be appreciated. I can't really explain it here without giving away part of the solution, but I think the error there should be fairly clear to someone who looks at it. (Unfortunately, the other 0's I submitted are all legitimately incorrect solutions ) ~~Correct answer 2FGHJ. Your answer 2FGHI.~~ Marked correct. rodders - 2010-11-22 2:25 AM I realise I have entered the incorrect key for #4. I entered the bottom row of both puzzles rather than the 3rd row of the right hand puzzle. I'm relatively confident I have the correct solution, although of course won't give it away here. Any chance of rescuing some points for that puzzle??? davep - 2010-11-22 3:23 AM I also entered the yellow-outlined areas on #4 as my answers .... Done Many players did this. Given points to both you and others radekivv - 2010-11-22 2:46 AM Would it be possible to check my answer to #7? I separated lines by commas and the system did not like it. Thanks. Many players did this. Given points to you and all others (even who didn't claim).
	@ 2010-11-22 8:44 AM (#2623 - in reply to #2465) (#2623) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:44 AM Checked all submissions for manual overrides. There is none as far as I can see. Results are frozen now.
	@ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM (#2624 - in reply to #2465) (#2624) Top
ostroffj Posts: 10 Country : United States	ostroffj posted @ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM Admin, I think willwc's point is that there is no row I: the rows read ABCDEFGHJK. So by "I" he meant "the thing after H".
	@ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM (#2625 - in reply to #2465) (#2625) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 8:54 AM Congratulations to Thomas Snyder and Hideaki Jo for topping in FLIP. Only 2 players to complete, and by what a margin - 18 minutes remaining. Only few seconds separating them apart. Nikola continued his trend of single-puzzle-mistake from Renban. He would have otherwise got 9 minutes bonus. In Indian ladder, Rakesh converted his 'good performance in Renban' into a 'great performance in FLIP'. And we've Keshava at 3rd position among Indian participants. Well done, Keshava and hope to see you do better in upcoming tests.
	@ 2010-11-22 9:01 AM (#2626 - in reply to #2624) (#2626) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:01 AM ostroffj - 2010-11-22 8:54 AM Admin, I think willwc's point is that there is no row I: the rows read ABCDEFGHJK. So by "I" he meant "the thing after H". That was careless from me. Sorry willwc. Thanks ostroffj for pointing. 3 players did the same mistake. pushpa.mr RJH0723 willwc All of them get full points. willwc's score is 360 now, and he moves to 15th position.
	@ 2010-11-22 9:07 AM (#2627 - in reply to #2626) (#2627) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:07 AM Slightly lesser participants compared to the last two LMI tests. 98 out of 115 players got non-zero scores. Thank you everyone for participating. Those who could not participate should try to solve and enjoy the puzzles at leisure.
	@ 2010-11-22 9:13 AM (#2629 - in reply to #2465) (#2629) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2010-11-22 9:13 AM Next monthly test