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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XVIII
We are preparing TVC XVIII puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XVIII. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Tapa Connection (page 12)36 Votes - [16.36%]
Tapa LITS (page 49)34 Votes - [15.45%]
Tapa - Like Loop (page 34)30 Votes - [13.64%]
Different Tapa (page 50)26 Votes - [11.82%]
Not Alone Tapa (page 37)20 Votes - [9.09%]
Tapa Scrabble (page 18)18 Votes - [8.18%]
Tapa Chess (page 14)17 Votes - [7.73%]
Full Tapa (page 31)17 Votes - [7.73%]
Tapa Possible (page 15)14 Votes - [6.36%]
Telescopic Tapa (page 7)8 Votes - [3.64%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

@ 2016-01-08 6:15 AM (#20556 - in reply to #20530) (#20556) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2016-01-08 6:15 AM

Why restrict to 1-5 votes?
Basically we are just offering a Yes vote to the variations we like.
If we like most of them, but dislike 2 or 3, then we can vote accordingly? (And vice versa)
@ 2016-01-10 2:09 PM (#20596 - in reply to #20556) (#20596) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2016-01-10 2:09 PM

kiwijam - 2016-01-08 6:15 AM

Why restrict to 1-5 votes?
Basically we are just offering a Yes vote to the variations we like.
If we like most of them, but dislike 2 or 3, then we can vote accordingly? (And vice versa)

I had a word with Serkan and he is what we feel - the difference is very thin between "limiting to 5" and "not limiting at all".

Right now, we are asking vote "upto" 5 variations. One is free to choose less than 5 certainly.
If we don't put a limit and some players start voting for 7 or 8 variations (all Tapa variations are likeable, aren't they :) ), then the importance of their vote will reduce a lot.

Anyway, as I mentioned, we think the difference is really small. We can try our your idea in next poll.

Reminder - Voting closes in another 10 hours, as I post this.
@ 2016-01-10 5:15 PM (#20598 - in reply to #20596) (#20598) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-01-10 5:15 PM

kiwijam meant voting 7-8 variations that people like is identical to voting 2-3 variations that people /don't/ like. So allowing voting more can give people the option to vote for variations they /don't/ want to see in the test, instead of what they want to see.
@ 2016-01-11 6:36 AM (#20615 - in reply to #20530) (#20615) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-11 6:36 AM

Voting for TVC XVIII is closed now. As announced, we will include the top 6 voted variations (Tapa Connection, Tapa LITS, Tapa - Like Loop, Different Tapa, Not Alone Tapa & Tapa Scrabble) in the contest.

Many thanks to the 45 players who participated in this voting.

Voting for TVC XIX will be open in about a week.
@ 2016-01-12 9:00 PM (#20632 - in reply to #20530) (#20632) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2016-01-12 9:00 PM

Is there an ETA on the instruction booklet?
@ 2016-01-13 3:46 PM (#20643 - in reply to #20632) (#20643) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-13 3:46 PM



Logic Masters Indian announces Tapa Variations Contest XVIII

Date: 16th - 19th January 2016

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XVIII/


@ 2016-01-13 5:41 PM (#20644 - in reply to #20530) (#20644) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2016-01-13 5:41 PM

In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.
@ 2016-01-13 5:59 PM (#20645 - in reply to #20644) (#20645) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-01-13 5:59 PM

prasanna16391 - 2016-01-13 5:41 PM

In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.


Yes you are right, my mistake. I wrote this one as considering the Tapa have just one Black Hole in each row and column, but the actuall puzzle may have more than once. So, Black Holes may touch each other orthogonally and diagonally. I'll rewrite the sentence.
@ 2016-01-13 6:29 PM (#20646 - in reply to #20645) (#20646) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2016-01-13 6:29 PM

I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?
@ 2016-01-13 6:38 PM (#20647 - in reply to #20646) (#20647) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-01-13 6:38 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-01-13 6:29 PM

I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?


Absolutely right, it will be added in v2
@ 2016-01-14 11:13 AM (#20650 - in reply to #20530) (#20650) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2016-01-14 11:13 AM

First part of the TVC XVIII practise set is now online: http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/tvc-xviii-practise-pa...
@ 2016-01-15 5:53 AM (#20654 - in reply to #20647) (#20654) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-15 5:53 AM

An updated version of IB uploaded with following 2 changes.

yureklis - 2016-01-13 5:59 PM

prasanna16391 - 2016-01-13 5:41 PM

In Black Hole Tapa, it says Black Holes may touch each other diagonally. Does that mean they cannot touch orthogonally? I feel that's a better way to put it.


Yes you are right, my mistake. I wrote this one as considering the Tapa have just one Black Hole in each row and column, but the actuall puzzle may have more than once. So, Black Holes may touch each other orthogonally and diagonally. I'll rewrite the sentence.


yureklis - 2016-01-13 6:38 PM

chaotic_iak - 2016-01-13 6:29 PM

I assume, in the example for Different Tapa, R4C1 should be shaded?


Absolutely right, it will be added in v2
@ 2016-01-15 8:46 AM (#20655 - in reply to #20530) (#20655) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2016-01-15 8:46 AM

Here is the second part of practise puzzles: http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/tvc-xviii-practise-pa...

I hope they are helpful. Enjoy.
@ 2016-01-15 9:02 AM (#20656 - in reply to #20530) (#20656) Top

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Kota posted @ 2016-01-15 9:02 AM

I don't know how to answer Tapa-Like Loop. For example, if there is an answer key in Row 2 of the example in IB, which will be right, 212 or 23?
@ 2016-01-15 8:47 PM (#20658 - in reply to #20530) (#20658) Top

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brecher92 posted @ 2016-01-15 8:47 PM

For the 4x4 tapa, if there is an arrow at the left of the grids, do I enter the number of cells from just the leftmost grid, or from the two grids all the way across?
@ 2016-01-15 11:56 PM (#20659 - in reply to #20658) (#20659) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-01-15 11:56 PM

brecher92 - 2016-01-15 8:47 PM

For the 4x4 tapa, if there is an arrow at the left of the grids, do I enter the number of cells from just the leftmost grid, or from the two grids all the way across?


Each of the grid will have own arrows. So for your example, just for the lefmost grid.
@ 2016-01-15 11:59 PM (#20660 - in reply to #20656) (#20660) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2016-01-15 11:59 PM

Kota - 2016-01-15 9:02 AM

I don't know how to answer Tapa-Like Loop. For example, if there is an answer key in Row 2 of the example in IB, which will be right, 212 or 23?


We missed the exception of this one in the IB. We'll update of the IB and we'll add it to PB with example to avoid any confussion. Thanks for your remark.

The answer format will be: "Write the lengths of the separate line segments lying towards the marked rows/columns."
@ 2016-01-16 5:24 AM (#20662 - in reply to #20530) (#20662) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-16 5:24 AM

Announcements

Password protected puzzle has 11 pages (including a cover page with points table)
Time bonus will be computed after you click 'Claim Bonus'
Penalty will be given irrespective of correctness of submission



Contest Length : 75 minutes
Total Points : 1000
Bonus : 4 points per minute saved (Computed upto seconds)
Grace Period : 5 minutes
Penalty : 6 points per minute used (Computed upto seconds)


@ 2016-01-16 6:44 AM (#20663 - in reply to #20530) (#20663) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-16 6:44 AM

Contest has started.
@ 2016-01-16 2:01 PM (#20664 - in reply to #20530) (#20664) Top

Pashetka



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Pashetka posted @ 2016-01-16 2:01 PM

Password is wrong. I can't open Puzzle Booklet
@ 2016-01-16 5:06 PM (#20665 - in reply to #20530) (#20665) Top

aldentea



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aldentea posted @ 2016-01-16 5:06 PM

The captions of Not Alone Tapa(2) are printed "8A,8B,8C" instead of "8D,8E,8F"...
@ 2016-01-16 5:11 PM (#20666 - in reply to #20665) (#20666) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2016-01-16 5:11 PM

aldentea - 2016-01-16 5:06 PM

The captions of Not Alone Tapa(2) are printed "8A,8B,8C" instead of "8D,8E,8F"...
Fixed.
@ 2016-01-16 7:32 PM (#20667 - in reply to #20530) (#20667) Top

rob



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rob posted @ 2016-01-16 7:32 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks Fatih and Serkan for another great set of puzzles. I didn't quite manage to finish in time this time around, will have to wait for other results to judge that. It certainly felt like solving closer to the limit than on the previous contest.

One genuine mistake due to reading a 115 as 15 in the second Tapa-Like Loop, should have noticed it wasn't unique that way. Some of the logic on the hard Loop escaped me, but I really enjoyed it on the resolve.

The second Tapa LITS was a very satisfying solve, though considering my points/time, it seems it took me too long to see the classic Tapa connectivity break. Maybe there was a quicker way in via LITS? Scrabble was slow, Connection fast (one of my favourites).

I found the Not Alone Tapas to be quite strange but very fun to solve. I'm learning to really like Dissected Tapa, Black Hole had some very elegant logic of which I missed half... 4x4 is also really interesting, somewhat similar to Dissected. I wasted a bit of time on that one, having to restart after finding almost the correct solution.

A great set, thank you again!
@ 2016-01-16 9:00 PM (#20668 - in reply to #20530) (#20668) Top

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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2016-01-16 9:27 PM (#20669 - in reply to #20530) (#20669) Top

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kousek-nebe posted @ 2016-01-16 9:27 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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