@ 2014-11-16 10:34 PM (#17150 - in reply to #17017) (#17150) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2014-11-16 10:34 PM
Encompassing the less common variants,this episode of SM turned out to be very difficult for me.With about 2 minutes left on the clock and 25 odd cells to be filled in the odd even count(15),I made a desperate attempt and guessed at 2 circled cells knowing that chances of finishing it logically are close to nil.Thankfully and luckily,the guesses turned out to be right and the time was just enough to submit the 2 answer keys . Even though the outcome is that I have completed all,I'm not content with the way that I solved this test, as I remember resorting to guesswork in 3 sudokus atleast. Oddly,my favourites in this test or the ones that I enjoyed solving the most are the classics as the rest were mostly a kind of struggle between me and the sudokus.I wasted a lot of time on the first sudoku that I attempted(Odd even count(5)) just like in the last episode.Got broken twice and then noticed the logical continuation.Not a great thing to experience at the beginning of a test. So to conclude,an interesting and a very difficult test.Not surprising though,because the author is Deb!. The sudokus were excellently constructed .Thanks a lot for a great test Deb. | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 12:11 AM (#17151 - in reply to #17150) (#17151) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-11-17 12:11 AM kishy72 - 2014-11-16 10:34 PM Encompassing the less common variants,this episode of SM turned out to be very difficult for me.With about 2 minutes left on the clock and 25 odd cells to be filled in the odd even count(15),I made a desperate attempt and guessed at 2 circled cells knowing that chances of finishing it logically are close to nil.Thankfully and luckily,the guesses turned out to be right and the time was just enough to submit the 2 answer keys . Even though the outcome is that I have completed all,I'm not content with the way that I solved this test, as I remember resorting to guesswork in 3 sudokus atleast. Oddly,my favourites in this test or the ones that I enjoyed solving the most are the classics as the rest were mostly a kind of struggle between me and the sudokus.I wasted a lot of time on the first sudoku that I attempted(Odd even count(5)) just like in the last episode.Got broken twice and then noticed the logical continuation.Not a great thing to experience at the beginning of a test. So to conclude,an interesting and a very difficult test.Not surprising though,because the author is Deb!. The sudokus were excellently constructed .Thanks a lot for a great test Deb. This is interesting because overall (including the Chain) I found Round 3 easier than Round 2. Maybe you are just not familiar with the O-E marking ways to make these puzzles easier? I am bringing up this point mainly because this is one of the reasons for categorizing the variants - to discuss specific techniques that may be common to a category. My only pause was on the 6x6 Odd Sum Pair because I was being stupid with eliminating a possibility I shouldn't have. Everything else went pretty smoothly. | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 1:26 AM (#17152 - in reply to #17151) (#17152) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 419 Country : India | kishy72 posted @ 2014-11-17 1:26 AM prasanna16391 - 2014-11-17 12:11 AM This is interesting because overall (including the Chain) I found Round 3 easier than Round 2. Subjective, I guess.I managed to finish episode 2 in about 65 mins and the current one dragged me until the very last.So you can pretty much sum up how difficult it was for me. Maybe you are just not familiar with the O-E marking ways to make these puzzles easier? I am bringing up this point mainly because this is one of the reasons for categorizing the variants - to discuss specific techniques that may be common to a category. You have hit the nail on the head.I too felt that the lack of familiarity with those O-E marking hurt me a lot.Also, I probably should have solved the example puzzles of the new variants like Odd sum pair and Odd Even count which I failed to do...... | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 1:28 AM (#17153 - in reply to #17017) (#17153) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 43 Country : United States | davep posted @ 2014-11-17 1:28 AM
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@ 2014-11-17 7:28 PM (#17158 - in reply to #17017) (#17158) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 6 Country : Belarus | Maksim posted @ 2014-11-17 7:28 PM
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@ 2014-11-17 8:59 PM (#17160 - in reply to #17017) (#17160) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 28 Country : United Kingdom | puzzlemad posted @ 2014-11-17 8:59 PM Thanks for these. First competition for me for ages and no wrong submissions either. :) | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 9:02 PM (#17161 - in reply to #17017) (#17161) Top | ||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2014-11-17 9:02 PM
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@ 2014-11-17 9:06 PM (#17162 - in reply to #17017) (#17162) Top | ||||||||||||||||
An LMI player | An LMI player posted @ 2014-11-17 9:06 PM
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@ 2014-11-17 9:31 PM (#17163 - in reply to #17017) (#17163) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 28 Country : United Kingdom | puzzlemad posted @ 2014-11-17 9:31 PM
I don't know if it was my printer, but I found the shading on the cells for teh even sudoku very dark. I'd actually printed the example booklet off a different printer and that was fine. | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 9:56 PM (#17164 - in reply to #17152) (#17164) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 1801 Country : India | prasanna16391 posted @ 2014-11-17 9:56 PM kishy72 - 2014-11-17 1:26 AM You have hit the nail on the head.I too felt that the lack of familiarity with those O-E marking hurt me a lot.Also, I probably should have solved the example puzzles of the new variants like Odd sum pair and Odd Even count which I failed to do...... The way I see it is, now you have a better idea where your strengths and weaknesses are, and that's a net positive to take out of it ;) I generally just circle the odds. Might be better markings out there, but practicing the types basically lets you try out such markings, and grow accustomed to the ones that suit you specifically. | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-17 11:31 PM (#17165 - in reply to #17017) (#17165) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 542 Country : India | rajeshk posted @ 2014-11-17 11:31 PM
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@ 2014-11-18 4:02 AM (#17167 - in reply to #17017) (#17167) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 7 Country : United States | easonrevant posted @ 2014-11-18 4:02 AM
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@ 2014-11-18 4:27 AM (#17168 - in reply to #17017) (#17168) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 152 Country : United Kingdom | detuned posted @ 2014-11-18 4:27 AM
In its own understated way, I thought was as good a Sudoku test as I've solved for quite a while! | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-18 8:19 AM (#17172 - in reply to #17017) (#17172) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 3 Country : South Korea | bubbler posted @ 2014-11-18 8:19 AM
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@ 2014-11-18 8:51 AM (#17174 - in reply to #17017) (#17174) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Country : India | Administrator posted @ 2014-11-18 8:51 AM Password removed and solutions appended. | |||||||||||||||
@ 2014-11-18 10:22 PM (#17183 - in reply to #17017) (#17183) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Posts: 22 Country : ITALY | lenzo posted @ 2014-11-18 10:22 PM
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@ 2014-11-19 8:58 AM (#17186 - in reply to #17017) (#17186) Top | ||||||||||||||||
Country : India | debmohanty posted @ 2014-11-19 8:58 AM Congratulations Rakesh, Kishore and Saheer for taking the top 3 Indian spots. After 3 rounds, Kishore leads the leaderboard, followed by Rakesh and Jayant. Congratulations also to Jan, Kota and TiiT for their very impressive timings and finishing as top 3 overall. Thank you everyone for their feedback, I'm happy that the round was generally liked by all. There has been some comments about the difficulty of some sudokus - I don't have much to add other than what Prasanna has already mentioned. But I would encourage players (especially new players) to post here if they are not able to solve any of the variants logically. So, three rounds over now, four more to go. It has been an exciting tournament for the organizers with so many Indian players participating. Over to Rakesh for the Outside round. |