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TVC XVI — 28th September - 1st October41 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XVI
We are preparing TVC XVI puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XVI. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Alternative Tapa [TVC List No45]10 Votes - [11.49%]
Tapa Mine [TVC List No47]10 Votes - [11.49%]
Tapa Filler [TVC List No24]9 Votes - [10.34%]
Tapa Place [TVC List No7]8 Votes - [9.2%]
Symmetric Tapa [TVC List No31]8 Votes - [9.2%]
TAPA TAPA [TVC List No93]7 Votes - [8.05%]
Tapa Rundweg [TVC List No4]6 Votes - [6.9%]
Tapa Chess [TVC List No35]6 Votes - [6.9%]
Tapa Scrabble [TVC List No48]6 Votes - [6.9%]
Not Alone Tapa [TVC List No98]6 Votes - [6.9%]
Perspective Tapa [TVC List No100]6 Votes - [6.9%]
Power of Tapa [TVC List No83]5 Votes - [5.75%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

@ 2013-09-28 7:03 PM (#12934 - in reply to #12933) (#12934) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2013-09-28 7:03 PM

@ 2013-09-28 11:47 PM (#12936 - in reply to #12606) (#12936) Top

Rubben



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Rubben posted @ 2013-09-28 11:47 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-29 1:00 AM (#12938 - in reply to #12606) (#12938) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-09-29 1:00 AM




Nice sprint format to end TVC. I thought I wouldn't finish there. I don't feel comfortable as much with Filler and I was completely (and needlessly) stuck on the bottom Tapa Tapa. All of the puzzles were excellent. I did use a little intuition on the bottom Toroidal. Considering this was a TVC with a lot of variants I'm not comfortable with, I'm happy to have finished, albeit in penalty time.

@ 2013-09-29 1:03 AM (#12939 - in reply to #12606) (#12939) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-29 1:03 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-29 1:12 AM (#12940 - in reply to #12606) (#12940) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-09-29 1:12 AM

Looking back at the penalty, I'll probably be losing quite a lot of points for submitting that last puzzle because of the penalty time. I hope there's some provision for the submissions that cause the score to drop to not get counted
@ 2013-09-29 3:51 AM (#12941 - in reply to #12606) (#12941) Top

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RALehrer posted @ 2013-09-29 3:51 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-29 10:02 PM (#12943 - in reply to #12606) (#12943) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2013-09-29 10:02 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


No clue which grid is which on the kakuro styled page.
@ 2013-09-30 3:59 AM (#12946 - in reply to #12606) (#12946) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2013-09-30 3:59 AM

All was going ohk until after test i saw i have done silly mistake in two of puzzles. :(
Anyways nice puzzles. Will solve the remaining ones. :)
Thanks to authors for such wonderful test :)
@ 2013-09-30 12:51 PM (#12960 - in reply to #12606) (#12960) Top

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xevs posted @ 2013-09-30 12:51 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-30 4:00 PM (#12964 - in reply to #12606) (#12964) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-30 4:00 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right


@ 2013-09-30 7:27 PM (#12970 - in reply to #12606) (#12970) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-09-30 7:27 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-30 7:32 PM (#12971 - in reply to #12606) (#12971) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-09-30 7:32 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-01 5:28 AM (#12979 - in reply to #12606) (#12979) Top

ksun48



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ksun48 posted @ 2013-10-01 5:28 AM

Darn, I messed up answer entry on all three Tapa Fillers (entered the sequence of numbers instead of blocks) I hope I will get credit for these puzzles (otherwise that's 94 points down the drain).
@ 2013-10-01 10:05 AM (#12980 - in reply to #12606) (#12980) Top

Tablesaw



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Tablesaw posted @ 2013-10-01 10:05 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-01 3:08 PM (#12982 - in reply to #12606) (#12982) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-01 3:08 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-02 1:55 AM (#12987 - in reply to #12606) (#12987) Top

ukonet



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ukonet posted @ 2013-10-02 1:55 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit easy
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-02 5:42 AM (#12991 - in reply to #12606) (#12991) Top

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FoxFireX posted @ 2013-10-02 5:42 AM

Curious about the scoring on this one. The score page for me is just showing every puzzle as being worth one point. Is that what we're going with, or will the point values in the score page be updated at some point? Or am I having a technical issue?
@ 2013-10-02 7:29 AM (#12994 - in reply to #12991) (#12994) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-10-02 7:29 AM

FoxFireX - 2013-10-02 5:42 AM

Curious about the scoring on this one. The score page for me is just showing every puzzle as being worth one point. Is that what we're going with, or will the point values in the score page be updated at some point? Or am I having a technical issue?


I thought it might be temporary to keep the final results of the TVC hidden till the test is over.
@ 2013-10-02 9:06 AM (#12995 - in reply to #12606) (#12995) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-10-02 9:06 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-10-02 9:56 AM (#12997 - in reply to #12994) (#12997) Top

Administrator



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Administrator posted @ 2013-10-02 9:56 AM

Para - 2013-10-02 7:29 AM

FoxFireX - 2013-10-02 5:42 AM

Curious about the scoring on this one. The score page for me is just showing every puzzle as being worth one point. Is that what we're going with, or will the point values in the score page be updated at some point? Or am I having a technical issue?


I thought it might be temporary to keep the final results of the TVC hidden till the test is over.
Score page now shows the points (and submission times) correctly.
@ 2013-10-02 2:15 PM (#13000 - in reply to #12606) (#13000) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-10-02 2:15 PM

Interesting, looking at the cumulative results, you have to go as far down as 9th for someone who might have been higher (7th) without the best of 3 ruling.

Personally, really happy to have finished 6th. Thankfully my penalty goof in this last one doesn't affect my overall ranking at all, apart from maybe pushing me to "best of the rest" instead of "the worst of the best".
@ 2013-10-03 8:27 AM (#13013 - in reply to #13000) (#13013) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2013-10-03 8:27 AM

prasanna16391 - 2013-10-02 9:15 PM
Interesting, looking at the cumulative results,


Cumulative results - I can't find them anywhere? Do you have special access?
@ 2013-10-03 8:36 AM (#13015 - in reply to #13013) (#13015) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-10-03 8:36 AM

kiwijam - 2013-10-03 8:27 AM

prasanna16391 - 2013-10-02 9:15 PM
Interesting, looking at the cumulative results,


Cumulative results - I can't find them anywhere? Do you have special access?


http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/2013.asp
@ 2013-10-03 11:36 AM (#13019 - in reply to #12606) (#13019) Top

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yureklis posted @ 2013-10-03 11:36 AM

TVC 2013

The TVC 2013 is officially over. The last one was a little bit different than usual TVC puzzles distribution. One of the solvers who had chance to become the Tapa Master 2013 survived, so we had a new Tapa Master. Before this, I want to thank some people who make great effort for the TVC. Rohan Rao, Salih Alan, Wei-Hwa Huang and William Blatt tested TVC puzzles, and their effort made sure that I handled so many things right and fair. Especially TVC XV and TVC XVI were tough work for us, because I couldn’t make whole set of puzzles in a reasonable time before the contest date, and this caused lack of time for testers and Deb. However they helped perfectly even if I didn’t make my work on time.

I didn’t calculate, but I assume 4 solvers had a chance to be the Tapa Master. So former Master Palmer M. broke a puzzle on Sunday, and he put the title in danger but he was still the closest one to it. Yuta Nagata (nyuta) couldn’t solve all puzzles (there was one missing puzzle) and lost the chance. Neither Thomas competed nor Bram in Sunday and Monday. In the last day Bram took the test. I didn’t know what was going on, and Deb pinged me, “Bram did all puzzles correctly.” So it means that Bram was the Tapa Master 2013 in that time, but he still had an opponent who is Thomas S. If Thomas solved all puzzles, he would beat Bram and he would be the TM 2013. Probably Thomas took the test in last hours of TVC, so I saw the latest results in my morning and Thomas had a broken puzzle, that was a tiny mistake. The correct solution was 26, Thomas’s was 25. Frankly I would not want be in their shoes, because they were really close to get the title, and it must’ve been sad to lose the title with simple mistakes.
...

TVC XVI, top three

1. Hideaki Jo (Japan) [25/25 - 69.23 minutes]
2. Bram de Laat (Netherlands) [25/25 - 69.45 minutes]
3. Endo Ken (Japan) [24/25 - 54.49 minutes]

Hideaki has participated in all TVC’s, he got several top three results, but TVC XVI is first victory of him, also second Japanese solver to win a TVC round. As you remember first one was Endo Ken in TVC XIV.
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Best puzzles of TVC 2013

1. Pata (TVC XIII) - 9.8
2. Outside Tapa (TVC XV) - 9.7
3. Alternative Tapa (TVC XVI) - 9.2
4. Pentapa (TVC XIV) - 9.1

Worst puzzles of TVC 2013

1. Tapa Tapa (TVC XVI) - 6.75
2. Total False Tapa (TVC XV) - 7.33
3. Tapa Borderline (TVC XIII) - 7.5
4. Tapa Clones (TVC XIV) - 7.5
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And Deb.
If you have prepared an online competition for the LMI and also you have a Gmail account, probably you know about chatting with Deb in a small window:) We are doing this activity since 2010. Last 40 days we talked so many things about TVC, CTC and nonpuzzle issues… My point is, Deb did a great work again.

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You know we were organizing TVC’s in Feb - March. We scheduled 2013 TVC in August - Sept because of WPF Sudoku Grand Prix. But we talked about getting back to the original schedule of TVC, so 2014 TVC will be organized in Feb-March.

I think the poll system worked. I’m not sure if this was useful for you, but I know it is a good thing that solvers has a chance to decide some of puzzle types in the competition.

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Here is the TVC XVI results: http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XVI/score.asp

Cumulative results of TVC 2013: http://www.logicmastersindia.com/TVC/2013.asp

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Thanks to all participants, see you in next year.

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Finally, the new TAPA MASTER is BRAM DE LAAT!
@ 2013-10-03 3:11 PM (#13021 - in reply to #13019) (#13021) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2013-10-03 3:11 PM

More tapas coming in 3-4 months!
I'm a fan of that!
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