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TVC XV — 14th - 16th September62 posts • Page 1 of 3 • 1 2 3
Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XV
We are preparing TVC XV puzzles considering result of the poll. Most voted 6 variations will be directly placed in TVC XV. You can choose upto 5 variations. Link to Tapa Variations List.
OptionResults
Tapa Skyscrapers [TVC List, No 114]14 Votes - [11.67%]
Tapa Double Back [TVC List, No 97]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Hexa Tapa [TVC List, No 1]13 Votes - [10.83%]
Kakuro Style Tapa [TVC List, No 116]12 Votes - [10%]
Twopa [TVC List, No 96]11 Votes - [9.17%]
Total False Tapa [TVC List, No 68]10 Votes - [8.33%]
Tapa: Complementary Pairs [TVC List, No 108]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Math Tapa [TVC List, No 3]9 Votes - [7.5%]
Magnetic Tapa [TVC List, No 75]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Double Tapa [TVC List, No 29]8 Votes - [6.67%]
Ugly Tapa [TVC List, No 123]7 Votes - [5.83%]
PhotoTapa [TVC List, No 106]6 Votes - [5%]
This is a multiple choice poll.

@ 2013-09-15 4:43 PM (#12708 - in reply to #12430) (#12708) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-15 4:43 PM

In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?
@ 2013-09-15 4:57 PM (#12709 - in reply to #12708) (#12709) Top

yureklis



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yureklis posted @ 2013-09-15 4:57 PM

kiwijam - 2013-09-15 4:43 PM

In Twopa there are two solutions but either solution could be 10a or 10b. Does this mean that when submitting answers there are two correct options for entering 10a and 10b?


Yes, it works exactly as you mention
@ 2013-09-15 7:41 PM (#12710 - in reply to #12430) (#12710) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-09-15 7:41 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-15 8:15 PM (#12711 - in reply to #12430) (#12711) Top

chaotic_iak




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chaotic_iak posted @ 2013-09-15 8:15 PM

I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;)
@ 2013-09-15 8:34 PM (#12712 - in reply to #12711) (#12712) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2013-09-15 8:34 PM

chaotic_iak - 2013-09-15 8:15 PM

I'm curious whether Deb/Serkan has guarded against submissions like "1,2,3 / 1,2,3" for Twopa (basically the same answer for both grids)... ;)
The score page does not handle such cases. But the admin's page has a warning about such cases, and we will be deleting one of the answers, if someone makes that mistake(?).
@ 2013-09-15 8:37 PM (#12713 - in reply to #12430) (#12713) Top

skywalker



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skywalker posted @ 2013-09-15 8:37 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-16 2:34 AM (#12716 - in reply to #12430) (#12716) Top

karzym



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karzym posted @ 2013-09-16 2:34 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


Nice idea in Outside tapa (even if I haven't solved it in time ;_;).
@ 2013-09-16 4:42 AM (#12717 - in reply to #12430) (#12717) Top

bskbri



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bskbri posted @ 2013-09-16 4:42 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-16 5:27 AM (#12718 - in reply to #12430) (#12718) Top

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RALehrer posted @ 2013-09-16 5:27 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-16 7:53 AM (#12719 - in reply to #12430) (#12719) Top

xevs



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xevs posted @ 2013-09-16 7:53 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-16 2:33 PM (#12723 - in reply to #12430) (#12723) Top

Rubben



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Rubben posted @ 2013-09-16 2:33 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-16 6:53 PM (#12724 - in reply to #12430) (#12724) Top

flk



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flk posted @ 2013-09-16 6:53 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2013-09-16 11:00 PM (#12729 - in reply to #12430) (#12729) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2013-09-16 11:00 PM

For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
Ouch.
@ 2013-09-16 11:48 PM (#12730 - in reply to #12729) (#12730) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-09-16 11:48 PM

tamz29 - 2013-09-16 11:00 PM

For people who don't always finish the test, do you tackle the giant puzzles first?
I usually avoid them entirely since its too much of a risk.
When you're almost finishing just to find out you went wrong somewhere - think of all that time spent on the one giant puzzle.
Ouch.


Since I've just recently finished TVC(s), I feel I'm still within the category who can answer this. The truth is I was never sure what to do with them. In the end I just settled on attempting the big puzzles first. In general, try to keep the easier ones for later so you can do a quick ending.

But more than that, its that I do a bigger one a little slower and more carefully. I took fairly long on the Hexa Tapa here for example, but I was fairly certain I was on the right track throughout. Thats why I'm fine with big ones as long as they're easy, for the competition format. The worst thing is solving for a while and then getting stuck somewhere midway and not knowing whether to guess and take a huge risk or just stay the course.
@ 2013-09-17 2:36 AM (#12734 - in reply to #12430) (#12734) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 2:36 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-17 3:20 AM (#12735 - in reply to #12729) (#12735) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 3:20 AM

@Tawan, you can think about this question before the contest starts, once you know the points value for each puzzle.
After doing a little practise, you should know which puzzle types you like and which you don't like.
Basically, that's how I decide. I always do giant puzzles if I like the type, and never if I don't like them.

If you don't have an opinion, then the other option is to wait until you are halfway through the test.
If you are going fast, then try the big one (otherwise you might end up with time remaining at the end but nothing small to do.
If you're going slowly, then stay with the small puzzles.
And I always leave the smallest puzzle until last, to fill the last gap if there is one.

Serkan's large puzzles aren't too tough, they just look big. Once you have some confidence they'll be easier to start.
But if you want a safety net: screenshot the puzzle, solve it in Paint instead of paper, keep copies of the solution as it progresses...

Edited by kiwijam 2013-09-17 3:21 AM
@ 2013-09-17 3:27 AM (#12736 - in reply to #12430) (#12736) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2013-09-17 3:27 AM

@Bram: Well done on your result. Thanks for the practice puzzles, and good call with the Hexa Tapa: "I somewhat expect Serkan to go big and do something nice with it."
@ 2013-09-17 5:05 AM (#12737 - in reply to #12430) (#12737) Top

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motris posted @ 2013-09-17 5:05 AM

Another gorgeous test. Thanks Serkan. I thought I was taking too long to check my answers (both on paper, and then entering into the online system) but I can't complain too much with my result.
@ 2013-09-17 9:03 AM (#12743 - in reply to #12430) (#12743) Top

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Tablesaw posted @ 2013-09-17 9:03 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


This was my favorite of all of the TVC tests I've participated in. Just a wonderful mix all around.
@ 2013-09-17 9:51 AM (#12744 - in reply to #12430) (#12744) Top

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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-09-17 10:43 PM (#12748 - in reply to #12430) (#12748) Top

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SilBer posted @ 2013-09-17 10:43 PM

I have all puzzles wrong, is that correct? I don't see where my faults are and wonder if I misunderstood the solution codes systematically. Is it possible to give me a feedback about that? My nichname is SilBer. Thank you, Silke
@ 2013-09-17 11:45 PM (#12750 - in reply to #12748) (#12750) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-09-17 11:45 PM

SilBer - 2013-09-17 10:43 PM

I have all puzzles wrong, is that correct? I don't see where my faults are and wonder if I misunderstood the solution codes systematically. Is it possible to give me a feedback about that? My nichname is SilBer. Thank you, Silke


See the Instruction booklet and then the answer key codes for each puzzle given on the results page. My guess is, you have entered the sum of all shaded cells in each of the marked rows/columns whereas the key asked is the length of each shaded block in the marked rows/columns. As a result, the key you would enter by your interpretation for the Instruction Booklet example would be 3,4,2, but it is the length of each shaded block in order for each marked row/column.
@ 2013-09-18 12:44 AM (#12752 - in reply to #12430) (#12752) Top

SilBer



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SilBer posted @ 2013-09-18 12:44 AM

Yes, you are right. Oh no. Thank you.
Is it possible to get some lower points for that (like in the HCS, where it would be 80 percent, I think), or do you have other rules about that?
@ 2013-09-18 1:10 AM (#12753 - in reply to #12752) (#12753) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-09-18 1:10 AM

SilBer - 2013-09-18 12:44 AM

Yes, you are right. Oh no. Thank you.
Is it possible to get some lower points for that (like in the HCS, where it would be 80 percent, I think), or do you have other rules about that?


That is upto the author to decide, if the keys you provided still give enough information of whether you have solved the puzzles or not. In this case the author is Serkan so he can answer that best.
@ 2013-09-18 1:28 AM (#12754 - in reply to #12735) (#12754) Top

tamz29



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tamz29 posted @ 2013-09-18 1:28 AM

kiwijam - 2013-09-17 3:20 AM

@Tawan, you can think about this question before the contest starts, once you know the points value for each puzzle.
After doing a little practise, you should know which puzzle types you like and which you don't like.
Basically, that's how I decide. I always do giant puzzles if I like the type, and never if I don't like them.

If you don't have an opinion, then the other option is to wait until you are halfway through the test.
If you are going fast, then try the big one (otherwise you might end up with time remaining at the end but nothing small to do.
If you're going slowly, then stay with the small puzzles.
And I always leave the smallest puzzle until last, to fill the last gap if there is one.

Serkan's large puzzles aren't too tough, they just look big. Once you have some confidence they'll be easier to start.
But if you want a safety net: screenshot the puzzle, solve it in Paint instead of paper, keep copies of the solution as it progresses...


You're right. They're a breeze once the competition environment was over.
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