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@ 2013-08-11 5:37 PM (#12217 - in reply to #12215) (#12217) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-11 5:37 PM

Right then, I'll post full thoughts and feedback tonight, since I actually have to run for something now But, wow, I spent 15 whole minutes on the Even Killer. Wow again. Thankfully that didn't deter things. Amazing quality of Sudokus. The Outside Sudoku was particularly brilliant. Thanks to Deb and the rest of the authors/organizers.
@ 2013-08-11 5:40 PM (#12218 - in reply to #11781) (#12218) Top

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Venkatachalam V posted @ 2013-08-11 5:40 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? I am a regular visitor at LMI forum.
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood most of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? No, there were really few easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 6:08 PM (#12219 - in reply to #11781) (#12219) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2013-08-11 6:08 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? SMS from LMI
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? No, there were really few familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


There should be alarm kind of thing to warn 2 minutes before time gets over. Actually, I m still not sure whether I had to hit that submit button near the clock, I kept on hitting submit button after solving every puzzle but didn't hit the 'submit answers' button near the clock.

Also I m not sure whether I had to key in the numbers in that grid of answer keys shown above the puzzle. I had thought that solving puzzle only and clicking on submit button below the puzzle would do.

So I guess because I didn't click on 'submit answers' button near the clock, I m not being able to see my score. :(

Otherwise, quality of puzzles were amazing. Really enjoyable. Thanks for the great test :)
@ 2013-08-11 6:08 PM (#12220 - in reply to #11781) (#12220) Top

Sagar.Ramachandran



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Sagar.Ramachandran posted @ 2013-08-11 6:08 PM

Congrats Prasanna! :D
And to Rohan and Rishi Sir as well. Well deserved!
@ 2013-08-11 6:11 PM (#12221 - in reply to #11781) (#12221) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-08-11 6:11 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? SMS from LMI
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood most of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? No, there were really few easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? No, there were really few familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 6:13 PM (#12222 - in reply to #11781) (#12222) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-11 6:13 PM

An LMI player - 2013-08-11 6:08 PM

There should be alarm kind of thing to warn 2 minutes before time gets over. Actually, I m still not sure whether I had to hit that submit button near the clock, I kept on hitting submit button after solving every puzzle but didn't hit the 'submit answers' button near the clock.

Also I m not sure whether I had to key in the numbers in that grid of answer keys shown above the puzzle. I had thought that solving puzzle only and clicking on submit button below the puzzle would do.

So I guess because I didn't click on 'submit answers' button near the clock, I m not being able to see my score. :(

Otherwise, quality of puzzles were amazing. Really enjoyable. Thanks for the great test :)
Sorry, I have no idea what the problem is, and since the post is anonymous, I can't figure out if I can see your name in the score page. It is fine to remain anonymous, but if you have a problem send us a PM / email.
@ 2013-08-11 6:27 PM (#12223 - in reply to #11781) (#12223) Top

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Mihalich posted @ 2013-08-11 6:27 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-08-11 6:29 PM (#12224 - in reply to #11781) (#12224) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-08-11 6:29 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-08-11 6:31 PM (#12225 - in reply to #11781) (#12225) Top

swesam



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swesam posted @ 2013-08-11 6:31 PM

Hi..contests to the winners!! I am unable to view my scores. The page appears blank. Kindly let us know when the scores can viewed.
@ 2013-08-11 6:35 PM (#12226 - in reply to #11781) (#12226) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-11 6:35 PM

swesam - 2013-08-11 6:31 PM

Hi..contests to the winners!! I am unable to view my scores. The page appears blank. Kindly let us know when the scores can viewed.
You have got 9 correct with a score of 175.

Not sure why the score page should be blank, can you send us a screenshot of your score page (logicmasteradmin@gmail.com) ? Also, please ensure that you are viewing the score page from the same browser from which you took ISC.
@ 2013-08-11 6:46 PM (#12227 - in reply to #11781) (#12227) Top

tnv




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tnv posted @ 2013-08-11 6:46 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? SMS from LMI
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were easy. I would have liked more easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 6:46 PM (#12228 - in reply to #11781) (#12228) Top

megu



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megu posted @ 2013-08-11 6:46 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? SMS from LMI
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood all of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were easy. I would have liked more easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were familiar. I would have liked more familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 6:48 PM (#12229 - in reply to #11781) (#12229) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-08-11 6:48 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? I am a regular visitor at LMI forum.
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood most of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were easy. I would have liked more easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were familiar. I would have liked more familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 6:54 PM (#12230 - in reply to #11781) (#12230) Top

swesam



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swesam posted @ 2013-08-11 6:54 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? I am a regular visitor at LMI forum.
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood most of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were easy. I would have liked more easy puzzles.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? No, there were really few familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


@ 2013-08-11 7:48 PM (#12231 - in reply to #11781) (#12231) Top

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bhaveshgr posted @ 2013-08-11 7:48 PM

when will the results of ISC 2013 be announced?
@ 2013-08-11 8:01 PM (#12232 - in reply to #11781) (#12232) Top

swesam



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swesam posted @ 2013-08-11 8:01 PM

@admin...thanks.i was able to view it once i used the same browser. the flash player had some issues earlier.
@ 2013-08-11 8:17 PM (#12233 - in reply to #11781) (#12233) Top

bhaveshgr



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bhaveshgr posted @ 2013-08-11 8:17 PM

I DONT WHAT IS MY SCORE PLEASE SAY IT.
@ 2013-08-11 8:33 PM (#12234 - in reply to #11781) (#12234) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2013-08-11 8:33 PM

bhaveshgr - 2013-08-11 8:17 PM

I DONT WHAT IS MY SCORE PLEASE SAY IT.
0. Unfortunately all 24 submitted by you are wrong
@ 2013-08-11 9:57 PM (#12235 - in reply to #12219) (#12235) Top

prasanna16391



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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-11 9:57 PM

An LMI player - 2013-08-11 6:08 PM

There should be alarm kind of thing to warn 2 minutes before time gets over. Actually, I m still not sure whether I had to hit that submit button near the clock, I kept on hitting submit button after solving every puzzle but didn't hit the 'submit answers' button near the clock.

Also I m not sure whether I had to key in the numbers in that grid of answer keys shown above the puzzle. I had thought that solving puzzle only and clicking on submit button below the puzzle would do.

So I guess because I didn't click on 'submit answers' button near the clock, I m not being able to see my score. :(

Otherwise, quality of puzzles were amazing. Really enjoyable. Thanks for the great test :)


Hmm, I think your worry is that your answers may not have been recorded. If your query is whether just solving on interface and clicking submit for each Sudoku will do, then yes, that'll do. You don't need to enter in the answer keys as well. You don't need to hit submit again near the clock, unless you have something new to submit.
@ 2013-08-11 10:29 PM (#12236 - in reply to #11781) (#12236) Top

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Joo M.Y posted @ 2013-08-11 10:29 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-08-11 11:00 PM (#12237 - in reply to #11781) (#12237) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2013-08-11 11:00 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-08-11 11:04 PM (#12238 - in reply to #11781) (#12238) Top

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lmunira posted @ 2013-08-11 11:04 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-08-11 11:14 PM (#12239 - in reply to #11781) (#12239) Top

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prasanna16391 posted @ 2013-08-11 11:14 PM

Right, so my thoughts about individual Sudokus (in order of solving) -

Classic 1, 2 - Sprint. I didn't have any pause moments in either of these. Contrary to points, I finished 2nd one quicker, but I'm weird with classics.

Outside - Yeah, I jumped directly to the Outside Sudoku. This was absolutely beautiful and quite tough. Took me close to 15 minutes, had marked a lot of 7-8 doubles around the left half of the grid. The major break was the 1-2, 3-4 part at the top leftGr after all the obvious stuff I think. There were a few implied doubles and triples forming that were hard to spot.

Greater Than Consecutive - Sprint. The non-consecutive logic makes things very limiting.

Even Killer (try 1) - Disaster! Staring, staring, staring for 10 minutes and getting absolutely nothing. I don't know why, I think I just went blank here. Thankfully, I decided to jump away.

Smashed Sums - 10 minutes perhaps. There's a bit here around the middle 3 columns thats very limiting, once you figure out that either the top box or the bottom box needs to have X-6-X one below the other in the 6th column, its easy to limit where things go exactly. Again, this one would only be solved quickly if one marks circles for cells that can't be black as well.

Vudoku, then Thermo, then Arrow - Sprint. Just used the general sums/difference logic or increasing/decreasing logic, nothing fancy. The Arrow middle part with the 3-5 double for the 8 sum meaning 3-3 can't be there for the 6 is probably the only place where I took a minute to pause and think among all 3 of these.

Killer - Mega sprint. But I can understand it not being so for people not familiar with the in-out rule, as this got pretty obvious with all the 7-9 doubles forming. Nicely constructed and themed on that, I do like solving themes.

Renban Groups - A bit of a symmetric touch to this one, with most of the same logic being used for 1-3-5 and 2-4 to open it all up.

Pinocchio - Nice use of the rules. After getting the 3 in the middle box, you can immediately figure out that if the other 2 fours are true the middle 4 can't be false, so one of those 2 has to be false, and the middle 4 true. After that, pretty easy.

Diagonal - Sprint.

Shifted (try 1) - Mini disaster! spent 3 minutes, got stuck, thought I'd made a mistake, so jumped to Deficit.

Deficit - This was nice. These types are usually easy but this one certainly wasn't. There was a lot of, "ok, this number cannot be in this box so all the other numbers have to be there" and then using the in-outs of Irregular logic.

Shifted (try 2) - Turns out I hadn't made a mistake, but just entered a 5 as a 2 somehow! Thankfully spotted that quickly, and after that easy enough. Major suggestion here would be to focus on the shifted part (rows here) just a bit more than columns/boxes.

Classic 3 - Sprint.

Sudo-Kurve - Although just a slight tweak on the IB design, I've still never seen that exact design before. Was nice to work through, though easy.

Overlapping Sudoku - The part that really speeds the solve here is, from 4th to 9th row onwards and 4th to 9th column onwards, the 1st 3 numbers and last 3 numbers have to be same. Simple implied logic, but really speeds up the process.

Even Killer (try 2) - Not blank anymore! Spotted the 5 odds forming in the 1st column meaning that the rest all had to be evens, and went on quickly from there.

6x6s - Sprint sprint sprint, although I think I paused a little (too much) on the 5th and 6th ones.
@ 2013-08-11 11:21 PM (#12240 - in reply to #11781) (#12240) Top

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kishy72 posted @ 2013-08-11 11:21 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Excellent Grids .Goes without saying given the quality of the authors involved.My personal favourites are
Outside sudoku and Killer .Outside sudoku was fun to solve and had some really hard deductions.Finding the hidden single 9 in that in R5C2 was super good.Killer was sweet and simple revolving around the 79 pair.

The curious thing about this test from my perspective is that i stumbled and had to take a guess in as many as 3 6 X 6 grids whereas i had no problems in solving logically the 9 X 9 grids.I intend to erase the 6X6 grids that i had guessed and find the missing logic sometime later.I wisely avoided the smashed sums sudoku which looks extremely hard and saved considerable time .
Thanks to the authors and the Organisers for a nice test and
94 mins to complete a 150 min test which means roughly 5mins spent for each Grid???Phenomenal !!!!.
Also Congrats to the trio Rishi ,PS and Rohan who have interchanged top Positions amongst themselves!
@ 2013-08-11 11:28 PM (#12241 - in reply to #11781) (#12241) Top

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VinaySonawane posted @ 2013-08-11 11:28 PM

 How did you come to know about Indian Sudoku Championship? Others
 Did the Instructions Booklet (IB) provide enough information about participating in ISC? Yes, mostly.
 Did you understand the Sudoku variations rules and examples from the IB? I understood only a few of them.
 Did you find enough easy Sudokus to solve during the championship? Yes, there were many of them.
 Did you find enough easy / familiar variations to solve during the championship? Yes, some of them were familiar. I would have liked more familiar types.
 After your experience in ISC, are you going to participate in future championshiops or contests at LMI? Most likely


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