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@ 2013-06-23 2:27 PM (#11313 - in reply to #11179) (#11313) Top

caudmont



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caudmont posted @ 2013-06-23 2:27 PM

I spent much time during the test on the snapshot sudoku without finding a solution.
After the end of my test, I tried to find a solution and finally I found one by rotating one of the snapshot. Perphaps I made mistakes but if snapshots could be rotated, it should have been written in the rules.
At this time, only 6 players found the solution of the snapshot sudoku ! I wonder if many other players had the same problem as me on this sudoku.

Sylvain
@ 2013-06-23 4:03 PM (#11314 - in reply to #11179) (#11314) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-23 4:03 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


There were bit too many previously unknown puzzles for me. Also, as an moderate solver I really would like to have the points distribution available beforehand in order to try to optimize my competition.

Thank you all the same! In overall, nice competition.
@ 2013-06-23 4:05 PM (#11315 - in reply to #11179) (#11315) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-23 4:05 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2013-06-23 7:44 PM (#11316 - in reply to #11179) (#11316) Top

wicktroll



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wicktroll posted @ 2013-06-23 7:44 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The formatting of the classics was a bit confusing.
The Instruction Booklet didn't mention that the constraints in Logidoku will differ in the Puzzle Booklet from the constraints in the Instruction Booklet. That's also my fault that I didn't ask about it beforehand, but I didn't expect to be able to participate in this contest so I didn't deal too much about the IB.
In general I enjoyed the test, the puzzles which I have solved were very nice.
@ 2013-06-23 11:33 PM (#11319 - in reply to #11179) (#11319) Top

misko



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misko posted @ 2013-06-23 11:33 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-24 1:20 AM (#11320 - in reply to #11179) (#11320) Top

spelvin



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spelvin posted @ 2013-06-24 1:20 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-24 1:28 AM (#11321 - in reply to #11179) (#11321) Top

auroux



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auroux posted @ 2013-06-24 1:28 AM

I can't believe it! The LMI server is normally super-reliable, but for the last 5 minutes of my allotted time I tried frantically and desperately to submit my last 2 answers... never succeeded to reconnect to the site before the end of my time (sometime around 21:35 French time = 19:35 GMT Sunday -- did anyone else experience an outage around that time? if not perhaps the problem was on my end, though other websites were loading fine). I lost 28 points (clock and odd lab) in the process. Grrr..... Oh well, at least I didn't wait until the last minute to submit all my answers, otherwise I'd have ended up with a beautiful zero...
@ 2013-06-24 1:29 AM (#11322 - in reply to #11179) (#11322) Top

wgryciuk



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wgryciuk posted @ 2013-06-24 1:29 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2013-06-24 1:31 AM (#11323 - in reply to #11321) (#11323) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2013-06-24 1:31 AM

@auroux, please check your PM.
@ 2013-06-24 1:34 AM (#11324 - in reply to #11179) (#11324) Top

Nola



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Nola posted @ 2013-06-24 1:34 AM

Hi,

when I wanted to submit my answers suddenly the website was not reachable. After I tried to refresh it, I could not see anything anymore. Since my home network worked well, I went to logic masters Germany and submitted my answers to Yureklis by personal message (Serkan Yürekli). Since I had only my roughly timed music, I am not sure if I was on time. (But maybe you are generous since I also lost some minutes trying to submit answers in the answer form).

Now the site is back working, so I came here to post this message. The timer says it is over (which is correct since also my music is over ).

Greetings, Nola

PS: I take part regularly on your site, and this never happend before. Hopefully, it was the last time, since I like beeing here.
@ 2013-06-24 1:55 AM (#11325 - in reply to #11324) (#11325) Top

debmohanty




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debmohanty posted @ 2013-06-24 1:55 AM

Nola - 2013-06-24 1:34 AM

when I wanted to submit my answers ...
Hi Nola, we have accepted your answers. You can now check the score page at http://logicmastersindia.com/2013/06S/score.asp
@ 2013-06-24 2:18 AM (#11326 - in reply to #11179) (#11326) Top

Nola



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Nola posted @ 2013-06-24 2:18 AM

Hi again, thank you very much!!! I liked the sudoku variants very much, since there were really new and nice ideas!

It was a little difficult to get an overview on the points, a table would have been nice (in the PB) or puzzles sorted by point value. Normally I am not able to solve all puzzles but choose the ones I like most, which have mean point value. (I have an idea about why it was done, but still would be thankful about the point information - and not distributed on 21 pages.)
@ 2013-06-24 2:20 AM (#11327 - in reply to #11179) (#11327) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-24 2:20 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2013-06-24 9:25 AM (#11330 - in reply to #11321) (#11330) Top

Bram28



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Bram28 posted @ 2013-06-24 9:25 AM

Yes, I had the same problem where I had solves one with 2 minutes to spare, but it wouldn't allow me to submit in those last few minutes ... it kept saying I had unsubmitted puzzles, but clicking on submit only showed a little clock for the mouse-cursor. This was around 3:30pm Eastern Time.

Oh well, I was doing very badly anyway
@ 2013-06-24 11:20 AM (#11333 - in reply to #11179) (#11333) Top

joshuazucker



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joshuazucker posted @ 2013-06-24 11:20 AM

I also had a submitting problem at the end, but reloading the page let me submit *just* before time expired.

I thought this was a very hard test, and making a few mistakes along the way didn't help. Some of the puzzles were really pretty though! I look forward to finding the time to solve the rest of them.

I felt sure that the logidoku led to a contradiction; I really want to figure out what was going on there! I'm very confused right now. I also somehow managed to cause myself problems in the snapshot and didn't have time to go back and try to fix.
@ 2013-06-24 11:29 AM (#11334 - in reply to #11179) (#11334) Top

joshuazucker



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joshuazucker posted @ 2013-06-24 11:29 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Very skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The Irregular Bands was very fast for me compared with the point value, but then maybe I guessed a little lucky about which band should go where. The islands also seemed a lot easier than Tripod and Psycho, and I feel like I'm pretty much of a killer specialist anyway. The A or B also felt a little overvalued ... or maybe it's just that the Tripod and Psycho were undervalued.

Quite a lot of hard puzzles, but they certainly look beautiful and had some lovely steps in finding the solutions!
@ 2013-06-24 11:34 AM (#11335 - in reply to #11179) (#11335) Top

ajselep



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ajselep posted @ 2013-06-24 11:34 AM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


While not a major complaint and put a contest together is difficult, using consistent formatting - grid size, font type/size, etc. - would be preferred. But think for the effort and the interesting puzzle types.
@ 2013-06-24 3:16 PM (#11337 - in reply to #11179) (#11337) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-24 3:16 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


All puzzles in the booklet should be in the same form (e.g. same size, same font)

Edited by An LMI player 2013-06-24 3:18 PM
@ 2013-06-24 3:59 PM (#11340 - in reply to #11179) (#11340) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-24 3:59 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little


@ 2013-06-24 4:22 PM (#11342 - in reply to #11179) (#11342) Top

zorko




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zorko posted @ 2013-06-24 4:22 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Just right
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? All puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2013-06-24 4:33 PM (#11343 - in reply to #11179) (#11343) Top

Para



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Para posted @ 2013-06-24 4:33 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


I already had the opinion when reading the Instruction Booklet that it would be fairly puzzly. And it was a bit like I expected. I think that just because a latin square has regions, doesn't make it a Sudoku. That's why I would call certain puzzle Regional Skyscraper and Regional Easy as ABC and not Skyscraper Sudoku and Easy as ABC Sudoku.
I have not much a problem with the scores not being known in advance, but if that is the case I feel there should at least be a cover page which has all scores mentioned, so you can find easier/harder puzzles at the moment you want to solve them.
I felt the same as Joshua on the scores for Islands and Bands, while some others took far more effort for their value.
I dropped doing any classics after the first one and realised all of them were weirdly formatted. Honestly, it made me afraid the whole test would be in the first Sudoku's font and I almost stopped solving because of that, as that really didn't work for me and I spend far too much time because I kept not seeing the digits correctly.
I also hope I'll get my points for the half squares sudoku as I hadn't noticed the 0's for empty half squares were supposed to be put in and I don't exactly understand why we would have to. My numbers are in the right squares, so my solution is clearly matching the intended solution.

I do think that all puzzles I solved were really nice to solve, but maybe not all for a Sudoku competition. Half the puzzles I've written for the Daily League I would never suggest putting in a Sudoku competition, but for one time they should still be fun to solve.
@ 2013-06-24 4:47 PM (#11344 - in reply to #11179) (#11344) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-24 4:47 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Fairly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2013-06-24 6:07 PM (#11345 - in reply to #11179) (#11345) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2013-06-24 6:07 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? Way too many puzzles (too little time)
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2013-06-24 8:12 PM (#11346 - in reply to #11179) (#11346) Top

Ours brun




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Ours brun posted @ 2013-06-24 8:12 PM

 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? A bit skewed
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did their point values reflect the difficulty/time spent? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? I have a different complaint


@ 2013-06-24 8:18 PM (#11347 - in reply to #11179) (#11347) Top

Ours brun




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Ours brun posted @ 2013-06-24 8:18 PM

Fun fact: when you make your mouse go over a player's timing in the results list, this player's global ranking is displayed. As usual.

Just, it is not the sudoku ranking that is displayed, but the puzzle ranking.

Edited by Ours brun 2013-06-24 8:37 PM
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