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MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier47 posts • Page 1 of 2 • 1 2
@ 2019-04-25 11:14 AM (#26937) (#26937) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-04-25 11:14 AM




Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2019pr.asp
Instructions for MII and Regions - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/


@ 2019-05-02 12:32 AM (#26944 - in reply to #26937) (#26944) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-02 12:32 AM

Are the instructions ready yet? :)
@ 2019-05-02 2:18 AM (#26945 - in reply to #26944) (#26945) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-02 2:18 AM

mstang - 2019-05-02 12:32 AM

Are the instructions ready yet? :)


It is ready. It will be uploaded in some time.
@ 2019-05-02 12:02 PM (#26946 - in reply to #26937) (#26946) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-02 12:02 PM

Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/

Points Table shall be updated before the contest starts.

@ 2019-05-03 3:25 PM (#26947 - in reply to #26946) (#26947) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2019-05-03 3:25 PM

Instruction and Puzzle Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet with points table is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/

The password protected Puzzle Booklet can also be downloaded now.

@ 2019-05-03 6:19 PM (#26948 - in reply to #26937) (#26948) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-03 6:19 PM

Double spiral: I think the two circles "should be present in symmetrical cells" or points/nodes.


Edited by anurag 2019-05-03 6:19 PM
@ 2019-05-03 6:19 PM (#26949 - in reply to #26937) (#26949) Top

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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Double Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-05-03 6:35 PM (#26950 - in reply to #26937) (#26950) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-03 6:35 PM

Quads: Many of the black dots are surrounded by less than two pairs of consecutive digits. Shouldn't the rules say "pairs of adjacent digits that are also consecutive, with repetitions included" instead?
@ 2019-05-03 8:05 PM (#26951 - in reply to #26937) (#26951) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-03 8:05 PM

Key for Five cells: "Enter only the unit’s digit for double digit numbers". Does that make sense?
@ 2019-05-03 8:47 PM (#26952 - in reply to #26951) (#26952) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-03 8:47 PM

anurag - 2019-05-03 8:05 PM

Key for Five cells: "Enter only the unit’s digit for double digit numbers". Does that make sense?


You are correct. Double-digit won't be possible in Five cells. You can ignore that line. It won't affect your answer key.
@ 2019-05-03 8:48 PM (#26953 - in reply to #26948) (#26953) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-03 8:48 PM

anurag - 2019-05-03 6:19 PM

Double spiral: I think the two circles "should be present in symmetrical cells" or points/nodes.


At this point, since the test is already started, we won't be modifying the rules in any booklets. But I believe that from the example it is clear, how the symmetry behaves. Good Luck.
@ 2019-05-03 8:50 PM (#26954 - in reply to #26950) (#26954) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-03 8:50 PM

anurag - 2019-05-03 6:35 PM

Quads: Many of the black dots are surrounded by less than two pairs of consecutive digits. Shouldn't the rules say "pairs of adjacent digits that are also consecutive, with repetitions included" instead?


I would say a similar thing as replied to your previous question, at this point since the test is already started, we won't be modifying the rules in any booklets. But I believe that from the example it is clear that repetitions are allowed.
@ 2019-05-03 9:28 PM (#26955 - in reply to #26937) (#26955) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-03 9:28 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-05-03 10:44 PM (#26956 - in reply to #26937) (#26956) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-03 10:44 PM

Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.
@ 2019-05-03 11:14 PM (#26957 - in reply to #26956) (#26957) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-03 11:14 PM

anurag - 2019-05-03 10:44 PM

Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.


Thank you for your valuable feedback.
@ 2019-05-04 12:58 AM (#26958 - in reply to #26937) (#26958) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-04 12:58 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!

Edited by mstang 2019-05-04 1:03 AM
@ 2019-05-04 3:01 AM (#26959 - in reply to #26958) (#26959) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2019-05-04 3:01 AM

mstang - 2019-05-04 12:58 AM

I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!


I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, it is definitely on the harder side of PR. But I believe it's hard because of new variants and not the difficulty of the puzzles itself. Of course, some of the puzzles itself are hard but overall due to new variants, it became harder than expected. More detailed review about the difficulty, types, and themes will be provided after the contest ends.
@ 2019-05-04 4:01 AM (#26960 - in reply to #26937) (#26960) Top

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mstang posted @ 2019-05-04 4:01 AM

Thanks, Swaroop! I look forward to reading through it, and thanks for the test.
@ 2019-05-04 6:38 PM (#26961 - in reply to #26937) (#26961) Top

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TiiT posted @ 2019-05-04 6:38 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A bit too hard and too much guessing for me. First double spiral galaxies is simply impossible to solve. I thought I am able to finish the set, but there I stayed.
Luckily when submitting there was only one error and I was able to fix this. During solving I thought that I have a risk at least in 10 puzzles to have a mistake - good that it didn't happen :)
@ 2019-05-05 10:11 AM (#26963 - in reply to #26959) (#26963) Top

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anurag posted @ 2019-05-05 10:11 AM

The second Quad was hard, unlike the first and third, though it was logically solvable. Some puzzles were really hard, as some others here thought. I hope the ropes come back next year in the regions round. Those were cute constructions.
@ 2019-05-05 5:03 PM (#26964 - in reply to #26937) (#26964) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-05 5:03 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


@ 2019-05-05 6:08 PM (#26965 - in reply to #26937) (#26965) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2019-05-05 6:08 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Regional Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


@ 2019-05-06 8:54 AM (#26966 - in reply to #26937) (#26966) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2019-05-06 8:54 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2019-05-06 3:25 PM (#26967 - in reply to #26937) (#26967) Top

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malikasikka posted @ 2019-05-06 3:25 PM

Can I have the password forMIL and Regions PR 2018 puzzle booklet?
@ 2019-05-06 3:40 PM (#26968 - in reply to #26937) (#26968) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2019-05-06 3:40 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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