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MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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Subject: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-04-25 11:14 AM (#26937) (#26937) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2019pr.asp
Instructions for MII and Regions - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/


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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-02 12:32 AM (#26944 - in reply to #26937) (#26944) Top





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Are the instructions ready yet? :)
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-02 2:18 AM (#26945 - in reply to #26944) (#26945) Top


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mstang - 2019-05-02 12:32 AM

Are the instructions ready yet? :)


It is ready. It will be uploaded in some time.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-02 12:02 PM (#26946 - in reply to #26937) (#26946) Top


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Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/

Points Table shall be updated before the contest starts.

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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 3:25 PM (#26947 - in reply to #26946) (#26947) Top


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Instruction and Puzzle Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet with points table is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201905/

The password protected Puzzle Booklet can also be downloaded now.

anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 6:19 PM (#26948 - in reply to #26937) (#26948) Top




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Double spiral: I think the two circles "should be present in symmetrical cells" or points/nodes.


Edited by anurag 2019-05-03 6:19 PM
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 6:19 PM (#26949 - in reply to #26937) (#26949) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Double Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 6:35 PM (#26950 - in reply to #26937) (#26950) Top




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Quads: Many of the black dots are surrounded by less than two pairs of consecutive digits. Shouldn't the rules say "pairs of adjacent digits that are also consecutive, with repetitions included" instead?
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 8:05 PM (#26951 - in reply to #26937) (#26951) Top




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Key for Five cells: "Enter only the unit’s digit for double digit numbers". Does that make sense?
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 8:47 PM (#26952 - in reply to #26951) (#26952) Top


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anurag - 2019-05-03 8:05 PM

Key for Five cells: "Enter only the unit’s digit for double digit numbers". Does that make sense?


You are correct. Double-digit won't be possible in Five cells. You can ignore that line. It won't affect your answer key.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 8:48 PM (#26953 - in reply to #26948) (#26953) Top


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anurag - 2019-05-03 6:19 PM

Double spiral: I think the two circles "should be present in symmetrical cells" or points/nodes.


At this point, since the test is already started, we won't be modifying the rules in any booklets. But I believe that from the example it is clear, how the symmetry behaves. Good Luck.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 8:50 PM (#26954 - in reply to #26950) (#26954) Top


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anurag - 2019-05-03 6:35 PM

Quads: Many of the black dots are surrounded by less than two pairs of consecutive digits. Shouldn't the rules say "pairs of adjacent digits that are also consecutive, with repetitions included" instead?


I would say a similar thing as replied to your previous question, at this point since the test is already started, we won't be modifying the rules in any booklets. But I believe that from the example it is clear that repetitions are allowed.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 9:28 PM (#26955 - in reply to #26937) (#26955) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many easy puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 10:44 PM (#26956 - in reply to #26937) (#26956) Top




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Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-03 11:14 PM (#26957 - in reply to #26956) (#26957) Top


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anurag - 2019-05-03 10:44 PM

Quads 1 and 3 had some nice deductions. Nice puzzles. I enjoyed Rassi salai in addition to Quads.


Thank you for your valuable feedback.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 12:58 AM (#26958 - in reply to #26937) (#26958) Top





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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Spiral Galaxies
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!

Edited by mstang 2019-05-04 1:03 AM
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 3:01 AM (#26959 - in reply to #26958) (#26959) Top


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mstang - 2019-05-04 12:58 AM

I thought that was very tough for a PR round! Nonetheless, nice puzzles....

Specific comments: Rassi Silai was fun, although I rarely had to draw the actual ropes (I assume that's not unintended) and I could often reason using uniqueness of the solution (especially in #3). Consecutive quads was also fun, though I broke #5 too many times. I really liked the 9-point Araf, and the Five Cells were easy and nice. My favorite part was discovering the huge galaxies!


I am glad you enjoyed. Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, it is definitely on the harder side of PR. But I believe it's hard because of new variants and not the difficulty of the puzzles itself. Of course, some of the puzzles itself are hard but overall due to new variants, it became harder than expected. More detailed review about the difficulty, types, and themes will be provided after the contest ends.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 4:01 AM (#26960 - in reply to #26937) (#26960) Top





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Thanks, Swaroop! I look forward to reading through it, and thanks for the test.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-04 6:38 PM (#26961 - in reply to #26937) (#26961) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Rassi Silai
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


A bit too hard and too much guessing for me. First double spiral galaxies is simply impossible to solve. I thought I am able to finish the set, but there I stayed.
Luckily when submitting there was only one error and I was able to fix this. During solving I thought that I have a risk at least in 10 puzzles to have a mistake - good that it didn't happen :)
anurag
Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 10:11 AM (#26963 - in reply to #26959) (#26963) Top




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The second Quad was hard, unlike the first and third, though it was logically solvable. Some puzzles were really hard, as some others here thought. I hope the ropes come back next year in the regions round. Those were cute constructions.
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 5:03 PM (#26964 - in reply to #26937) (#26964) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-05 6:08 PM (#26965 - in reply to #26937) (#26965) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Outside Regional Loop
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 8:54 AM (#26966 - in reply to #26937) (#26966) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many medium difficult puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Araf
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 3:25 PM (#26967 - in reply to #26937) (#26967) Top




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Can I have the password forMIL and Regions PR 2018 puzzle booklet?
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Subject: Re: MII and Regions - 3rd - 7th May 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-05-06 3:40 PM (#26968 - in reply to #26937) (#26968) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Five Cells
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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