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Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier
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Subject: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-15 1:11 AM (#26757) (#26757) Top


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Link for rules and other details about Puzzle Ramayan: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/2019pr.asp
Instructions for Casual and Word - http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201903/


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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-21 10:53 AM (#26766 - in reply to #26757) (#26766) Top


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Instruction Booklet


The Instruction Booklet is now available here: http://logicmastersindia.com/PR/201903/

Points Table shall be updated before the contest starts.

amitsowani
Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-21 12:20 PM (#26767 - in reply to #26766) (#26767) Top



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Does the Almost Chess Example violate the rule "No piece can attack another piece" The knight seems to be attacking the king.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-21 2:20 PM (#26768 - in reply to #26767) (#26768) Top


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amitsowani - 2019-03-21 12:20 PM

Does the Almost Chess Example violate the rule "No piece can attack another piece" The knight seems to be attacking the king.
The example will be corrected.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 1:45 AM (#26771 - in reply to #26757) (#26771) Top




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Do another piece block piece movement?
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 5:18 AM (#26772 - in reply to #26757) (#26772) Top




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In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 10:31 AM (#26773 - in reply to #26772) (#26773) Top



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sstackho - 2019-03-22 5:18 AM

In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13

The answer key (11,2) is fine. We need to consider lengths of horizontal segments in this case. Since the segment goes from center to center, the length of the segments in row 2 (for example) is 1, and not 2.

There is always this confusion in puzzles with loops/segments (length of segment v/s number of cells). So your answer will also be considered valid (22,13) but an answer like (22,3) or (11, 13) will not be considered correct. As long as there is consistency in the submitted answer, it will be considered correct.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 10:33 AM (#26774 - in reply to #26771) (#26774) Top



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TiiT - 2019-03-22 1:45 AM

Do another piece block piece movement?
TiiT

Pieces do not block other piece movements. This information may be useful for knight only. Pieces cannot attack any other piece anyway.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 11:58 AM (#26775 - in reply to #26757) (#26775) Top




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Hi,

Can someone please share the password for the puzzle booklet of ‘Casual & Word (PR 2018)’. The link is - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=730


I wanted to practise before taking this test
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 1:42 PM (#26776 - in reply to #26775) (#26776) Top


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malikasikka - 2019-03-22 11:58 AM

Hi,

Can someone please share the password for the puzzle booklet of ‘Casual & Word (PR 2018)’. The link is - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=730


I wanted to practise before taking this test
Can you try from the contest page now? It should be available.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 5:11 PM (#26778 - in reply to #26757) (#26778) Top


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Instruction Booklet


The updated Instruction Booklet is now available at the contest page.

Changes
1) Almost chess example fixed.
2) Points table added.

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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 5:13 PM (#26779 - in reply to #26757) (#26779) Top


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Puzzle Booklet


The password protected Puzzle Booklet is now available for download at the contest page.

It is advisable to go through the IB and the answer key notations before starting the test.

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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 5:14 PM (#26780 - in reply to #26757) (#26780) Top


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Start Time


The test starts at 5:30 PM IST.

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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 6:26 PM (#26781 - in reply to #26773) (#26781) Top




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rakesh_rai - 2019-03-22 12:31 AM

sstackho - 2019-03-22 5:18 AM

In addition to the Chess example, is there an error in the sample answer key for Curve Data? I believe the given example answer key should be 22,13

The answer key (11,2) is fine. We need to consider lengths of horizontal segments in this case. Since the segment goes from center to center, the length of the segments in row 2 (for example) is 1, and not 2.

There is always this confusion in puzzles with loops/segments (length of segment v/s number of cells). So your answer will also be considered valid (22,13) but an answer like (22,3) or (11, 13) will not be considered correct. As long as there is consistency in the submitted answer, it will be considered correct.


Oops! Of course, you're right. Sorry, my brain must not have been working properly when I posted this yesterday! Nice to know you accept either answer key.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 10:15 PM (#26782 - in reply to #26757) (#26782) Top




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Stairs can go top to bottom?
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-22 10:53 PM (#26783 - in reply to #26782) (#26783) Top



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anurag - 2019-03-22 10:15 PM

Stairs can go top to bottom?

Yes.

These are the possibilities:
Up/right/up....
Up/left/up....
Left/up/left...
Left/down/left...
Down/left/down...
Down/right/down...
Right/up/right...
Right/down/right...
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-23 4:21 PM (#26784 - in reply to #26757) (#26784) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-23 5:26 PM (#26785 - in reply to #26757) (#26785) Top


 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Almost Chess
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount


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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-23 10:24 PM (#26786 - in reply to #26757) (#26786) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


I enjoyed this contest much more than I thought I would, since "casual" puzzles for me seem to involve more intuition than I care for (or maybe my intuition was good today). Anyway I especially liked the word puzzles and the curve data puzzles.
I think there is a typographical error in the word list for puzzle 20. The word PI sohould be PS. The S in PS worked in my answer key.
Thanks for fun diversion.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-23 10:56 PM (#26787 - in reply to #26786) (#26787) Top



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bob - I think there is a typographical error in the word list for puzzle 20. The word PI sohould be PS. The S in PS worked in my answer key.

I think there is no typographical error. You probably got lucky there. The letter in R7C4 is indeed S. But it is part of the word SIPS and not PI. PI is in R6C2 and R7C2.
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-24 12:52 AM (#26788 - in reply to #26757) (#26788) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Curve Data
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Oh that was a challenge. The Instructions looked scary and some puzzles needed lot of struggling. It was like competing with myself all the way.
Too bad I couldn't get the last one correctly done. Everything but one word was placed, but the last one didn't fit :)))
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-24 2:20 AM (#26789 - in reply to #26757) (#26789) Top





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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The word puzzles were good, but some of the casual puzzles just seemed like too much guessing/manual labor.
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-24 7:03 AM (#26790 - in reply to #26789) (#26790) Top



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mstang - some of the casual puzzles just seemed like too much guessing/manual labor.

- Almost Chess - needed lot of pencilmarking and elimination. And it is better done at the start. It is difficult to do under time pressure. Maybe 2 and 3 needed more diligent effort and people could tend to guess. But all three can be done by logical elimination if you work with the right piece(s)
- Curve data - can be done logically
- Shortest distances - can be done logically
- Arithmetic square - can be done logically
- Letter weights - can be done logically
- Compass - can be done logically
- Pyramid Climbers - can be done logically
rakesh_rai
Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-24 7:05 AM (#26791 - in reply to #26757) (#26791) Top



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Tiit - The Instructions looked scary

Which one(s)?
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Subject: Re: Casual and Word - 22nd - 26th Mar 2019 - Puzzle Ramayan & IPC Qualifier @ 2019-03-24 8:21 PM (#26792 - in reply to #26757) (#26792) Top




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 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Letter Scrabble
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Very Nice Puzzles.
My favourites were the Almost chess 5 pointer,Meandering words and the Letter scrabble 11 pointer,for which i somehow couldnt place only 1 word,which was frustrating and ate up my time in trying to fix it.

Enjoyed the test.Thanks Rakesh for the puzzles
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