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Poll TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016
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Select the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XX
We are preparing TVC XX puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XX. Link to Tapa Variations List.
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Castle Tapa (Page 53)
Pata (Page 3)
Hungarian Tapa (Page 20)
Dutch Tapa (Page 52)
Taca (Page 49)
Tapa in the Cave (Page 38)
Easy as Tapa (Page 11)
Operation Tapa (Page 41)
Tapa Turns (Page 43)
Wordic Tapa (Page 39)
Wired Tapa (Page 33)
Braille Tapa (Page 27)
This is a multiple choice poll.

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Subject: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-06 11:51 AM (#22161) (#22161) Top


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Vote for the Tapa variations that you would want to see in TVC XX

We are preparing TVC XX puzzles considering result of the poll. 6 Most voted variations will be directly placed in TVC XX.

  • Scroll up in this thread to see variations that you can vote for.
  • The list of all variations can be found here.
  • You can vote for as many puzzles as you would like, so vote for all the ones you would like to see in the contest.
  • You can view the poll results summary only after you have voted.
  • Voting ends on 15th of December.

rob
Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-07 3:51 AM (#22164 - in reply to #22161) (#22164) Top


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Is the Taca example broken? The first row seems to have one block of length 3 instead of two of length 1.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-09 11:33 PM (#22180 - in reply to #22164) (#22180) Top


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rob - 2016-12-07 3:51 AM

Is the Taca example broken? The first row seems to have one block of length 3 instead of two of length 1.


Yes, you are right. I'll fix the example.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-15 10:59 AM (#22215 - in reply to #22161) (#22215) Top


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Voting is closed.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-15 3:44 PM (#22216 - in reply to #22161) (#22216) Top


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Logic Masters Indian announces Tapa Variations Contest XX

Dates: 23rd - 26th December 2016

Length: 75+5 minutes

IB and Submission Link : http://logicmastersindia.com/TVC/XX/


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Subject: RE: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-16 7:40 AM (#22217 - in reply to #22161) (#22217) Top


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I just uploaded some examples of Rhombile Transparent Tapa Loop to my blog for practice.

In Dutch Tapa, am I correct in understanding that any cell with a black or white circle that is part of the wall must be adjacent to exactly two shaded cells?

Edited by paramesis 2016-12-16 7:40 AM
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-16 8:49 PM (#22219 - in reply to #22161) (#22219) Top



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Latin Tapa: The clue on R3C4 seems wrong; it reads WDRO, not WORD. Also I hope it has a clearer appearance on the test; white on light gray is awful.

Tapa In The Cave: Can clues see past other clues?

Taca: What happens if a row/column with a Tapa clue to be placed is full? Or such row/column may not be full?
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Subject: RE: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-17 12:06 AM (#22220 - in reply to #22217) (#22220) Top


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paramesis - 2016-12-16 7:40 AM

In Dutch Tapa, am I correct in understanding that any cell with a black or white circle that is part of the wall must be adjacent to exactly two shaded cells?


If a black or white circle is the part of the wall, yes; two adjacent cells of those must be blackened.

Edited by yureklis 2016-12-17 12:33 AM
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-17 12:31 AM (#22221 - in reply to #22219) (#22221) Top


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chaotic_iak - 2016-12-16 8:49 PM

Latin Tapa: The clue on R3C4 seems wrong; it reads WDRO, not WORD. Also I hope it has a clearer appearance on the test; white on light gray is awful.


Yes there is a typo, will be fixed. About colours, it seems you are right, it is really hard to see letters, I'll do better.

Tapa In The Cave: Can clues see past other clues?


There is not any restriction, so yes they can [TVC XIV, http://puzzleparasite.blogspot.com.tr/2013/08/tvc-xiv-practise-part...

Taca: What happens if a row/column with a Tapa clue to be placed is full? Or such row/column may not be full?


I don't get the point; is this a question about rules or are we discussing some possibilities?


Edited by yureklis 2016-12-17 12:33 AM
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-17 3:12 AM (#22222 - in reply to #22221) (#22222) Top



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For Taca, yes, talking about rules. The clue on right/bottom of the grid is placed "on the first empty square". I suppose that means there must be an empty square, aka the row/column may not be fully black?
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-18 2:06 AM (#22225 - in reply to #22222) (#22225) Top





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For Rhombile Transparent Tapa Loop, are shaded clue cells still valid? Or does the clue no longer apply?
paramesis
Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-18 4:57 AM (#22227 - in reply to #22225) (#22227) Top


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mstang - 2016-12-17 3:06 PM

For Rhombile Transparent Tapa Loop, are shaded clue cells still valid? Or does the clue no longer apply?


Yes, shaded clue cells are still valid.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-18 6:22 AM (#22228 - in reply to #22161) (#22228) Top




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Practice puzzle for Tapa Difference from Walker Anderson:
http://wa1729.blogspot.com/2016/12/puzzle-100-tapa-difference.html
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-21 4:16 AM (#22240 - in reply to #22161) (#22240) Top


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Does Hungarian Tapa and RTTL have the same answer key as the rest of the puzzles?
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-23 11:12 PM (#22249 - in reply to #22161) (#22249) Top


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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-23 11:31 PM (#22250 - in reply to #22161) (#22250) Top


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Answer keys for Latin Tapa, Rhombile Transparent Tapa Loop, Hungarian Tapa




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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-23 11:32 PM (#22251 - in reply to #22161) (#22251) Top


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It is required to enter the required comma (",") in Latin Tapa and Hungarian Tapa.
If commas are missing, points will not be awarded


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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-23 11:51 PM (#22252 - in reply to #22227) (#22252) Top


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paramesis - 2016-12-18 4:57 AM

mstang - 2016-12-17 3:06 PM

For Rhombile Transparent Tapa Loop, are shaded clue cells still valid? Or does the clue no longer apply?


Yes, shaded clue cells are still valid.


Please don't forget this, blackened clue cells are still valid, you can look at the example.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-24 2:12 PM (#22255 - in reply to #22161) (#22255) Top




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I think rules of Taca need some clarification. From puzzles in the actual test, "first seen unshaded cell" should be replaced by "first seen cell that is neither shaded nor clued".
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-24 3:48 PM (#22256 - in reply to #22255) (#22256) Top


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deu - 2016-12-24 2:12 PM

I think rules of Taca need some clarification. From puzzles in the actual test, "first seen unshaded cell" should be replaced by "first seen cell that is neither shaded nor clued".


You are right
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-25 2:56 AM (#22257 - in reply to #22161) (#22257) Top


 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-25 2:47 PM (#22259 - in reply to #22161) (#22259) Top




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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks for the puzzles Serkan. I think the first Taca is broken though, which is frustrating since I wasted valuable time trying to solve it.

EDIT: I see now that the rules were incorrect for Taca.

Edited by ghirsch 2016-12-25 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-25 7:14 PM (#22260 - in reply to #22161) (#22260) Top




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Is there any chance this one can get extended as it's running over Christmas? It's been hard to find some time to do this in between traveling and family gatherings this weekend. I doubt I am the only one to have this problem. If not, I'll try again tomorrow.
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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-26 2:02 AM (#22261 - in reply to #22161) (#22261) Top





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 How balanced do you think the puzzle types of this test were? Perfectly balanced
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? A bit hard
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 How did you feel about the length / time limit for this test? A bit too many puzzles
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


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Subject: Re: TVC XX— 23rd December - 26th December 2016 @ 2016-12-26 5:06 AM (#22262 - in reply to #22161) (#22262) Top


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