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@ 2018-10-10 5:54 PM (#26160) (#26160) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-10 5:54 PM





@ 2018-10-10 8:42 PM (#26169 - in reply to #26160) (#26169) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-10 8:42 PM

Instructions Booklet now available.
@ 2018-10-11 1:06 AM (#26170 - in reply to #26160) (#26170) Top

-.ferchx.-



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-.ferchx.- posted @ 2018-10-11 1:06 AM

I very like this contest :)
@ 2018-10-11 10:41 PM (#26197 - in reply to #26160) (#26197) Top

auroux



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auroux posted @ 2018-10-11 10:41 PM

Looks really interesting, but based on the first couple of example grids I've attempted, I fear that either this will be a very difficult contest or I've gone completely stupid...
@ 2018-10-13 8:05 PM (#26257 - in reply to #26197) (#26257) Top

paramesis



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paramesis posted @ 2018-10-13 8:05 PM

Based on feedback, I aimed for this contest to not be as extreme in difficulty as the first iteration in 2016. For each type, I made at least 6 puzzles and reserved the ones I thought were most interesting and suitable for this competition, while in thw first iteration, I specifically designed many of the puzzles to be as difficult as possible.

The samples may give a good representation of the inherent difficulty in some of the genres, which are in no particular order.
@ 2018-10-16 9:20 AM (#26258 - in reply to #26160) (#26258) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2018-10-16 9:20 AM

Is the colorful picture on page 1 a puzzle, or art?
@ 2018-10-16 5:47 PM (#26259 - in reply to #26258) (#26259) Top

paramesis



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paramesis posted @ 2018-10-16 5:47 PM

It is an instruction-less bonus sum star variation.
@ 2018-10-18 10:43 PM (#26261 - in reply to #26259) (#26261) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-18 10:43 PM

Instruction and Puzzle Booklets


Final IB is available now. There is no change in the points table from the earlier version.

The password protected Puzzle Booklet can also be downloaded now.

@ 2018-10-18 10:45 PM (#26262 - in reply to #26160) (#26262) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-18 10:45 PM

Winners of the last Kaleidoscope contest in 2016 were Endo Ken, Robert Vollmert and Tomoya Kimura. Top 3 Indians were Rajesh Kumar, Swagatam Sarkar and Deepti Garg.
@ 2018-10-18 11:31 PM (#26263 - in reply to #26262) (#26263) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-18 11:31 PM

Bonus Points


Bonus points will be 5 points per minute saved for 14 correctly answered puzzles.

@ 2018-10-19 12:54 AM (#26264 - in reply to #26160) (#26264) Top

bskbri



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bskbri posted @ 2018-10-19 12:54 AM

Kropki Switch: the solver is supposed to shade some of the switch cells. I understand this from example. But it is not clear in the rules.
@ 2018-10-19 1:00 PM (#26265 - in reply to #26264) (#26265) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-19 1:00 PM

bskbri - 2018-10-19 12:54 AM

Kropki Switch: the solver is supposed to shade some of the switch cells. I understand this from example. But it is not clear in the rules.

Rule 3: " One and only one cell from each switch must be shaded. Shaded cells cannot share an edge. "
@ 2018-10-19 4:33 PM (#26268 - in reply to #26160) (#26268) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-10-19 4:33 PM

 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


The "3 most favorite puzzles of the contest" submission form in the feedback is broken. There are four answers, one is about the layout of the test and the other three relate to other (past?) contests.

Edited by An LMI player 2018-10-19 4:34 PM
@ 2018-10-19 8:47 PM (#26269 - in reply to #26160) (#26269) Top

auroux



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auroux posted @ 2018-10-19 8:47 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


The .harder puzzles are really not at a reasonable difficulty level. Trying to solve Sum Star 2 was a gamble; since Sum Star 1 was pretty reasonable and a lot of fun, I decided to try. However, after spending 90 minutes on it to end up nowhere (probably made a mistake somewhere along the solving path), it became clear the gamble didn't pay off. This is a problem in a limited time contest -- when a single puzzle can take longer than the contest, the outcomes are really a matter of luck in choosing which puzzles to attempt.

So, that kind of ruined the contest for me. But I will probably have a lot of fun returning to those puzzles without a time limit, though...
@ 2018-10-19 9:25 PM (#26270 - in reply to #26160) (#26270) Top

rob



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rob posted @ 2018-10-19 9:25 PM

Thanks for the contest, very innovative as usual! On a better day I'd have gotten out one of the remaining hard ones (Yajilin, Sum Star or Kropki Switch) in the last half hour, but I couldn't make reasonable progress on any and didn't have real bifurcation work in me today. I'm ok with the result though, considering I didn't manage some of the examples.
@ 2018-10-20 1:16 PM (#26271 - in reply to #26270) (#26271) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-20 1:16 PM

Please ignore ''3 most favorite' section in the feedback page. You can mention in the forum directly.
@ 2018-10-21 3:55 AM (#26272 - in reply to #26160) (#26272) Top

kiwijam



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kiwijam posted @ 2018-10-21 3:55 AM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


..................... I spent so long on the large Sum Star that I thought the contest was over, I just gave up on competing and was being stubborn.
These puzzles are too hard and complicated for a normal LMI contest structure - even 2 hours was much too short.
Perhaps you could try a 1 week time limit, like the April contest, let people take their time?
@ 2018-10-21 4:17 PM (#26273 - in reply to #26160) (#26273) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2018-10-21 4:17 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Karst


@ 2018-10-21 6:51 PM (#26274 - in reply to #26160) (#26274) Top

An LMI player



An LMI player posted @ 2018-10-21 6:51 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hex Kuroclone


@ 2018-10-23 9:24 AM (#26276 - in reply to #26160) (#26276) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-23 9:24 AM

Congratulations to Nikola Zivanovic, Endo Ken and Robert Vollmert for taking the top 3 spots in this hard test. Thanks to all the 70 participants.
@ 2018-10-23 6:56 PM (#26277 - in reply to #26160) (#26277) Top

Rubben



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Rubben posted @ 2018-10-23 6:56 PM

 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Cairo Kurotto


@ 2018-10-26 11:47 AM (#26278 - in reply to #26277) (#26278) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2018-10-26 11:47 AM

Solution Booklet is available now.
@ 2018-10-27 4:39 AM (#26279 - in reply to #26278) (#26279) Top

Eugene Porter



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Eugene Porter posted @ 2018-10-27 4:39 AM

Beautifully designed puzzles.

I was wondering about a potential alternate solution to Sum Star 1. After the test I came up with an answer string of 873x17x7x. The top left dodecagon reading clockwise from the 8(at 9 o'clock) - 6x42x3x1x598 with 7 in the middle. The top right dodecagon reading clockwise from the 7 (at 3 o'clock) - 82x79x4x35x7 with 1 in the middle. The lower dodecagon reading clockwise starting with a 8 at 12 o'clock then x1x96543x2x8 with the 7 in the middle.
@ 2018-11-29 4:31 AM (#26285 - in reply to #26160) (#26285) Top

Nizz



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Nizz posted @ 2018-11-29 4:31 AM

Possibly stupid question: When will the password for this test be available (again)? Is there any reason why the passwords are not published immeiately after the competition is over?
@ 2019-02-06 8:42 AM (#26543 - in reply to #26279) (#26543) Top

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paramesis posted @ 2019-02-06 8:42 AM

Apologies that I didn't address these earlier.

Eugene,

The alternate solution fails because the top right dodecagon contains two 7's and no 6.

Nizz,

the password is topo-LOGICal

I will look into getting an unlocked pdf and solutions booklet posted.
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