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@ 2017-02-06 2:26 PM (#22462) (#22462) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2017-02-06 2:26 PM





Instructions booklet coming soon
@ 2017-02-13 10:21 PM (#22499 - in reply to #22462) (#22499) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2017-02-13 10:21 PM


Logic Masters India announces February Puzzle Test — Snowmen

Dates : 24th — 27th Feb

Instruction Booklet & Submission : Link

Author : Ivan Laptiev & Andrey Bogdanov

@ 2017-02-14 10:20 AM (#22500 - in reply to #22462) (#22500) Top

ghirsch



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ghirsch posted @ 2017-02-14 10:20 AM

In the example Hitori, the number in the bottom right should be a 1. It is correct in the solution, but not in the unsolved puzzle.
@ 2017-02-14 3:55 PM (#22518 - in reply to #22500) (#22518) Top

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AndreyBogdanov posted @ 2017-02-14 3:55 PM

ghirsch - 2017-02-14 8:20 AM

In the example Hitori, the number in the bottom right should be a 1. It is correct in the solution, but not in the unsolved puzzle.

Thank you. You are right. This is a typo.
@ 2017-02-23 9:24 AM (#22573 - in reply to #22462) (#22573) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2017-02-23 9:24 AM

Points Table



IB is updated with points table. Here it is for your reference.




@ 2017-02-24 2:48 PM (#22579 - in reply to #22462) (#22579) Top

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chaotic_iak posted @ 2017-02-24 2:48 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I somewhat liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tapa
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


The theme was very interesting. At least in theory. In practice... there are too many summations involved. Large numbers, checking each possibility over and over. The best puzzles in this test are Tapa precisely because it doesn't involve too many additions. The second best are Hitori. I would've picked Skyscrapers or Sudoku, but the Skyscrapers puzzles still involved a lot of cases that I ran out of time before getting to the Sudoku. Speaking of difficult puzzles, the latter puzzles are too difficult, mostly because they had too much guesswork. (Checking among all possibilities of the snowmen, which of them can possibly work, is guesswork.)
@ 2017-02-24 3:46 PM (#22580 - in reply to #22462) (#22580) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2017-02-24 3:46 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Samurai Sudoku
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


All the example puzzles had 3-snowballs. Seeing 2-snowballs in the puzzles confused me, I eventually decided what they meant.
I found Hidoku #1 was the hardest of all the puzzles.
@ 2017-02-25 12:14 AM (#22582 - in reply to #22462) (#22582) Top

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mgarelick posted @ 2017-02-25 12:14 AM

The password is not working.
@ 2017-02-25 1:06 PM (#22583 - in reply to #22462) (#22583) Top

Eykir



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Eykir posted @ 2017-02-25 1:06 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Hidoku was too mathy and should have been something else. Other than that, the theme and puzzles were enjoyable.
@ 2017-02-25 2:10 PM (#22585 - in reply to #22462) (#22585) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2017-02-25 2:10 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Hitori
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


Thanks Ivan and Andrey for this innovative contest. I enjoyed solving the puzzles with more of mathematical ratios, summations and what else. The theme was really great and the puzzles were also of nice quality. I was able to complete on the the puzzles which required least calculations like Hitori, Tapa and Sudoku. There were quite some difficult puzzles, which I would rather say requires intuition than stating it to be difficult especially Hidoku. Thanks again for the contest.

Edited by rvarun 2017-02-25 2:17 PM
@ 2017-02-25 4:23 PM (#22586 - in reply to #22462) (#22586) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-25 4:23 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Light Garlands
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-25 5:50 PM (#22588 - in reply to #22462) (#22588) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-25 5:50 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-25 10:56 PM (#22589 - in reply to #22462) (#22589) Top

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ghirsch posted @ 2017-02-25 10:56 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I somewhat liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tapa
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-26 6:08 AM (#22590 - in reply to #22462) (#22590) Top

bob



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bob posted @ 2017-02-26 6:08 AM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tapa
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


When I first printed the puzzles out and saw the dearth of given clues, I was worried I would not be able to solve any of them, but I managed to finish several. The theme was clever and well executed for the most part, giving a sense of freshness to common puzzle types. I liked the tapas, hitoris and sudokus the best; these felt fun to me while making great use of the theme. I did not attempt the hidokus at all--those looked like nonstop arithmetic with too many possibilities for error. Couldn't figure out how to break in to skyscrapers or the second fillomino. And of course there is never enough time, but I'm more of an average solver.
I read the instructions beforehand; in retrospect I should also have considered in advance possibilities for snowman ratios, especially those with a non-integral "heaviness factor".
Overall fun original puzzles. I made lots of snowmen in the USA when I was a child. Glad to see this is global, at least in colder climates.
@ 2017-02-26 3:14 PM (#22591 - in reply to #22462) (#22591) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-26 3:14 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-26 4:39 PM (#22592 - in reply to #22462) (#22592) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2017-02-26 4:39 PM

Ugh. Way too mathematical and too many guesswork (look at Hidoku).
An ideal puzzle would be the 2nd Skyscrapers - little guessing and more intuitive logical steps, easily my favourite of the test.
Fillomino and Tapa were both fine I guess since they involve little arithmetic.

But the Sudoku, Hidoku and Hitori had too many calculation/guesswork for my taste.
Excellent idea but I think some were too arithmetic-heavy.
@ 2017-02-26 8:31 PM (#22593 - in reply to #22462) (#22593) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-26 8:31 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-26 9:29 PM (#22594 - in reply to #22462) (#22594) Top

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forcolin posted @ 2017-02-26 9:29 PM

At first my reaction was "ugh" and I soon abandoned any hope of scoring sensibly. However this proved to be wrong and I managed to solve a few, a good number for my standard.
I found the set extremely well conceived and realized, however sometimes it was difficult to get the logic. For example I solved the tough skyscraper and fillomino but could not see the aha trick for the two simple ones.
An excellent set, thank you Ivan and Andrey; special congratulations to Ken, the only one who finished the set so far (with 5 seconds to spare). I did not think it was humanly possible, he must be extraterrestrial
@ 2017-02-26 11:41 PM (#22595 - in reply to #22462) (#22595) Top

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An LMI player posted @ 2017-02-26 11:41 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Sudoku
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Mostly perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-27 3:20 AM (#22596 - in reply to #22462) (#22596) Top

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Ziti posted @ 2017-02-27 3:20 AM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Just right
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Skyscrapers
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Answer keys could have been better
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-27 4:27 AM (#22597 - in reply to #22462) (#22597) Top

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mstang posted @ 2017-02-27 4:27 AM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Fillomino
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Most puzzles were worth the right amount
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Too many pages / too large grids


I agree with some of the above posts, that the idea is very nice, but there was a lot more math than usual on this contest. As somebody with math contests background, I personally am fine with this :P I disliked the puzzles that required a lot of guesswork, but I thought the two Fillomino had a nice balance of intuition, math, and logic.

Edited by mstang 2017-02-27 4:35 AM
@ 2017-02-27 5:52 AM (#22598 - in reply to #22462) (#22598) Top

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greenhorn posted @ 2017-02-27 5:52 AM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I did not like the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Below Average
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tapa
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


90% of guessing the snowmen numbers, 10% of solving...
I started with Tapa and Hitori, which went really well, but the rest was beyond my understanding. Sorry :(
@ 2017-02-27 12:26 PM (#22599 - in reply to #22462) (#22599) Top

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Swagatam posted @ 2017-02-27 12:26 PM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I somewhat liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Fairly Nice


@ 2017-02-28 12:20 AM (#22603 - in reply to #22462) (#22603) Top

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Grizix posted @ 2017-02-28 12:20 AM

 How well did you like the theme of the contest? I really liked the theme
 What was your opinion of the distribution of easy/hard puzzles? Too many hard puzzles
 What did you think about the puzzle quality of the test? Very nice
 Which set of puzzles did you like the most? Tapa
 What was your opinion about the answer key extraction? Perfect answer keys
 Of the puzzles you solved/attempted, how well did the point values reflect the difficulty? Many puzzles were worth too much or too little
 What was your opinion of the booklet formatting and printing? Just right


@ 2017-02-28 12:10 PM (#22605 - in reply to #22462) (#22605) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2017-02-28 12:10 PM

Link to solutions booklet
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