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@ 2010-06-23 2:32 AM (#753 - in reply to #738) (#753) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-23 2:32 AM

Why EverGreens?
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At LogicMastersIndia, we have many members who belong to I-love-Sudokus-But-Not-Puzzles group.
"EverGreens" is our attempt to introduce puzzles to them.
It has only the "basic" or "classic" type of puzzles. There will be many easy puzzles in this test.

There are also enough difficult puzzles to challenge the experienced puzzle solvers.

Hope everyone likes the test.
@ 2010-06-23 2:35 AM (#754 - in reply to #738) (#754) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-23 2:35 AM

Are these all?
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These are not all the basic / classic type of puzzles. There are definitely lot of other basic types.
It is not possible to cover all types in one test, given that we decided to have 2 puzzles per type. [ And also that we wanted to limit the test to 100 minutes or so. ]

So, may be we'll have EverGreens Part II - depending upon players' interest and response
@ 2010-06-24 1:20 PM (#758 - in reply to #738) (#758) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-24 1:20 PM

Lin Minfang has done a great job translating the IB to Chinese. It can be accessed from sudokufans.org forum - http://www.sudokufans.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=72

The idea of putting the Answer Key box next to the puzzle instruction is very nice.
@ 2010-06-24 4:40 PM (#759 - in reply to #738) (#759) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-24 4:40 PM

Keeping in trend with the Sudoku tests, we'll be publishing the results are soon as a player finishes the test. However, we need everyone's help here.

[red]Please stick to the answer format.[/red]

1. Don't enter 'blank spaces' or comma or any other special characters. The only exception is Battleships where you enter commas between the co-ordinates.
2. If you are expected to enter '5', don't enter 'FIVE'

The submission site is designed such that it will warn you when you are entering in a format that we don't expect.




While submitting, please make sure that you don't have any warnings in red color.
However, even if you have warnings, your submission will be successful, and eventually you might be awarded if you enter 'FIVE' for '5' after manual check.
@ 2010-06-24 9:29 PM (#760 - in reply to #759) (#760) Top

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adityasaraf007 posted @ 2010-06-24 9:29 PM

It would be great if step-by-step solution of the newer variants are shown here. Puzzles like Battleship, Paint by number, minesweeper, as easy as abcd, kakuro can be left out as they are relatively known to the sudoku crowd as well.

I think this way we (those who belong to I-love-Sudokus-But-Not-Puzzles group) will be able to understand how to start the puzzles. As starting the puzzles is the most difficult part for us.
@ 2010-06-24 9:36 PM (#761 - in reply to #760) (#761) Top

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adityasaraf007 posted @ 2010-06-24 9:36 PM

In fact, if we left out the above mentioned 5 puzzles, then there are 8 newer variants in this test. If the solution of 1 puzzle is posted everyday, then we would be able to finish this by 2nd July (well before when the test begins)
@ 2010-06-24 10:51 PM (#762 - in reply to #761) (#762) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-24 10:51 PM

adityasaraf007 - 2010-06-24 9:36 PM

In fact, if we left out the above mentioned 5 puzzles, then there are 8 newer variants in this test. If the solution of 1 puzzle is posted everyday, then we would be able to finish this by 2nd July (well before when the test begins)


Are you thinking about something like this?

Step-by-Step solution to Loop Finder
@ 2010-06-25 10:23 PM (#763 - in reply to #762) (#763) Top

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adityasaraf007 posted @ 2010-06-25 10:23 PM

That is exactly what I meant (infact even better). Thank you very much
@ 2010-06-26 9:35 AM (#764 - in reply to #738) (#764) Top

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vopani posted @ 2010-06-26 9:35 AM

@Deb
This is soo cool! :-)
@ 2010-06-26 4:21 PM (#765 - in reply to #738) (#765) Top

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adityasaraf007 posted @ 2010-06-26 4:21 PM

Can't we do it like this.

Is it because we want to find out the no. of turns by the loop

@ 2010-06-26 4:32 PM (#766 - in reply to #765) (#766) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-26 4:32 PM

Aditya, If we allow the red lines as you have shown, there will be 2 loops. (one small loop and another big loop)
That is not allowed. As per the instruction "Draw a single continuous loop that visits all dots. ....."

The answer key is "The number of turns made by the loop" - That has got nothing to do with what the solution should be. [ The answer key will never govern what the solution should be. Since we don't have mechanism to solve the puzzles online, we have to rely on answer keys like many other online puzzle contests]
@ 2010-06-26 5:57 PM (#767 - in reply to #766) (#767) Top

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adityasaraf007 posted @ 2010-06-26 5:57 PM

Oh, thanks for clarification.

It didn't cross my mind, that in this scenario, two loops are formed.
@ 2010-06-27 6:32 AM (#768 - in reply to #761) (#768) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-27 6:32 AM

Start9 at R2C3 can't be black. If it is black
R1C3 and R3C3 both will be white,
but both are 9
Only one 9 possible in Row2 and Col3Blacks don't touch each other
2 at R2C4 is white, else 9 at R2C3
will be closed. [ All the whites must
be connected to each other orthogonally].
2 at R2C5 becomes black
Blacks don't touch each other
4 at R1C1 and 7 at R3C1 has to be
white, else 5 at R1C2 can't connect
to other whites.
7 at R4C1 becomes black.
3 at R4C2 becomes white
3 at R4C5 becomes black.
5 At R5C5 becomes white.
5 At R5C3 becomes white.
@ 2010-06-27 4:54 PM (#769 - in reply to #768) (#769) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-06-27 4:54 PM

This is really cool..........thanx a lot Deb
Can we have arrows now and then the Dominoes.........
@ 2010-06-27 8:04 PM (#770 - in reply to #738) (#770) Top

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vopani posted @ 2010-06-27 8:04 PM

I think it will nice to have the solutions of the actual puzzles after the test is completed.
@ 2010-06-27 9:10 PM (#771 - in reply to #770) (#771) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-06-27 9:10 PM

yeah.that will be fine but i am not able to get the start in the arrows and dominoes in the IB
@ 2010-06-27 10:46 PM (#772 - in reply to #738) (#772) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-27 10:46 PM

Domino solution steps attached.

Note that the examples for Domino and Arrows are actually little difficult.



Attachments
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Attachments DominoExample.xlsx (36KB - 25 downloads)
@ 2010-06-28 7:42 PM (#785 - in reply to #772) (#785) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-06-28 7:42 PM

thanx a lot Deb....u have made my life easy..........I cud do the Dominoes comfortably......still waiting for the starting clue for arrows
@ 2010-06-28 9:39 PM (#786 - in reply to #785) (#786) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-06-28 9:39 PM

Neeraj,
The arrows example is tough and needs T&E.
We've replaced with an easier example. Download the updated IB. You should be able to solve it with ease.

@ 2010-06-29 10:36 PM (#796 - in reply to #786) (#796) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2010-06-29 10:36 PM

thanx a lot
@ 2010-07-01 3:26 PM (#798 - in reply to #738) (#798) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2010-07-01 3:26 PM

Notes about Puzzle Booklet

  • The Puzzle Booklet does not have the examples.
    So, if you want to refer to the examples while solving, please keep a printed copy of the IB handy

  • The Puzzle Booklet has the instructions for puzzles, but it does not have the instructions for answer key.
    Instruction for answer key is available in the IB and also in the website for submission

  • The puzzles are numbered for 01-25 in the Puzzle Booklet and also in the submission website. This will help you submit puzzles in any order you need.

  • The puzzles will be in green color - if that distracts you, please print in b/w printer :-)

  • @ 2010-07-01 9:14 PM (#800 - in reply to #798) (#800) Top

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    Administrator posted @ 2010-07-01 9:14 PM

    More examples can be found at Rohan's blog - http://rohanrao.blogspot.com/2010/07/indian-puzzle-championship-jul...
    Rohan has nicely organized it for the EverGreens.

    It is little late, but still better than never.
    Thanks Rohan!
    @ 2010-07-03 9:23 AM (#803 - in reply to #738) (#803) Top

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    Administrator posted @ 2010-07-03 9:23 AM

    Players can check their scores 100 minutes after they start the test.
    As per a suggestion somewhere else in forum, players can see their own score - and not others.
    If someone finds problems with their score, please report here.
    Don't post answers - just post the Puzzle and your id.

    After the Test is over, full results will be available.
    @ 2010-07-03 4:19 PM (#804 - in reply to #803) (#804) Top

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    Fred76 posted @ 2010-07-03 4:19 PM

    I've no time to do this test, but I'll print it and do grids in the train !

    Fred

    Edited by Fred76 2010-07-03 4:19 PM
    @ 2010-07-03 4:49 PM (#805 - in reply to #803) (#805) Top

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    peluri posted @ 2010-07-03 4:49 PM

    Battleships: It is not required anywhere that the answer should be in alphabetical order (** e.g.), and a reverse order (**) has been judged incorrect (**-* for me).

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    Added by Administrator : Please don't post answers, even partly.
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