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@ 2011-08-19 9:06 PM (#5410 - in reply to #5380) (#5410) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-08-19 9:06 PM

Bonus points and partial bonus points

Bonus points will be computed from the time "Claim Bonus" button is clicked.
5pts/min -- solved 25 correctly
3pts/min -- solved 24 correctly and a 5-20 points puzzle is wrong
2pts/min -- solved 24 correctly and a 21-30 points puzzle is wrong
1pt/min -- solved 24 correctly and a 31-40 points puzzle is wrong.

Note : Partial bonus will be given after authors/organizers judge the wrong answer not to be dummy.
@ 2011-08-19 9:17 PM (#5411 - in reply to #5380) (#5411) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-08-19 9:17 PM

Puzzle booklet is uploaded. It has 13 pages. There is no cover page. Each page has one puzzle type.

Couple of notes :
1) After the password is displayed, the password can be selected using mouse and copied using right-click. Typing the password manually takes time and is error-prone.
2) All point claims should be made using the score page. This test has simplest of answer keys. So, we aren't sure yet if we can accept many typos.
3) While the test is running, it is best to avoid puzzle specific comments (e.g. puzzle ABC is too hard or puzzle XYZ is too easy). Please discuss them after the test.
However, feel free to leave your feedback about the test in general after you complete the test. Its everyone's feedback that most authors look forward to.
@ 2011-08-20 8:07 AM (#5412 - in reply to #5380) (#5412) Top

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gpagano posted @ 2011-08-20 8:07 AM

Wow is all I have to say. The quality of some of those puzzles was excellent, and I could see someone solving all of them in 100 minutes. I was able to do 14 of them, and every one I solved was good. The bottom Fillomino and Top Hitori stood out to me, but there were a lot of beautiful designs and solving paths. Thanks to the puzzle designers for such a great competition.

Edited by gpagano 2011-08-20 8:08 AM
@ 2011-08-20 11:47 AM (#5413 - in reply to #5380) (#5413) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-20 11:47 AM

@ 2011-08-20 1:55 PM (#5414 - in reply to #5380) (#5414) Top

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anurag posted @ 2011-08-20 1:55 PM

Nice puzzles.Second Fillomino is the pick of them.

Edited by anurag 2011-08-20 2:02 PM
@ 2011-08-20 2:36 PM (#5415 - in reply to #5380) (#5415) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-20 2:36 PM

puzzles are of nice quality..
every puzzle has different ways of solving and a trick to do it.
although i could have done better..
thanks to the authors for organizing such a beautiful test.. :)
@ 2011-08-20 7:57 PM (#5416 - in reply to #5380) (#5416) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-20 7:57 PM

A quick note about claims : No claims will be accepted for first 7 puzzles in case of typos. There answer keys for them can not be simpler.
@ 2011-08-20 11:04 PM (#5417 - in reply to #5380) (#5417) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-08-20 11:04 PM

great test.....................awesome puzzles.......thanks to all the authors and ofcourse LMI.
@ 2011-08-21 12:13 AM (#5418 - in reply to #5417) (#5418) Top

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motris posted @ 2011-08-21 12:13 AM

Amazing test! It's pretty easy to say that this is the best competitive round of Japanese puzzles that I've seen on LMI. But I also feel like saying that this is one of the best tests we've seen as well. Thanks for the work to put this together, and I hope it can inspire my next test to be just as good.
@ 2011-08-21 1:18 AM (#5419 - in reply to #5380) (#5419) Top

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furudo.erika posted @ 2011-08-21 1:18 AM

That was an excellently put together set of puzzles. Thanks for introducing me to Mochikoro as I'd never heard of it before this test and now it's one of my favourite puzzle types. Yajilin+ is a clever variant that complements the original puzzle type nicely and I hope to see more made. Great job all.
@ 2011-08-21 5:00 PM (#5420 - in reply to #5380) (#5420) Top

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kiwijam posted @ 2011-08-21 5:00 PM

A good set of puzzles, arigatoo gozaimashita, unfortunately I wasted too much time on big puzzles that never revealed their secrets to me... if only I was better at puzzles! :)

But at least I'm the first person to (claim to) have solved the password! Maybe that's worth some bonus points?
@ 2011-08-21 8:44 PM (#5421 - in reply to #5380) (#5421) Top

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spelvin posted @ 2011-08-21 8:44 PM

My compliments to the chefs!
@ 2011-08-21 11:25 PM (#5422 - in reply to #5380) (#5422) Top

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tamz29 posted @ 2011-08-21 11:25 PM

This is not the first time I encounter problems with the answer keys for loop-based puzzles, I triple checked my yajilins and masyus and it doesn't seem to work.
Both my Masyus still turned out "incorrect" (while the puzzles were solved correctly) - I'm wondering if one-off typos can be claimed since both masyus total up to a whopping 41 points.
@ 2011-08-22 12:49 AM (#5423 - in reply to #5380) (#5423) Top

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detuned posted @ 2011-08-22 12:49 AM

I definitely enjoyed this, although I must say I was frustrated somewhat with the physical printed size of the larger slitherlink and heyawake puzzles. Both were lovely puzzles but during the time I restarted and reprinted both of these several times and kept making silly errors which (aside from the usual dose of my own carelessness) I can only put down to overextending lines or dots due to the small sizes of the grid cells.

Aside from this one grievance, hats off to the authors - I much prefer puzzle tests where authors don't indulge in their own variants too much, after all the classics are classics for a reason :) Although that said, the yajilin variant here was definitely good fun!
@ 2011-08-22 3:37 AM (#5424 - in reply to #5380) (#5424) Top

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puzzlemad posted @ 2011-08-22 3:37 AM

Adding to everyone else's thanks to the authors. Unfortunately for me, I spent far to long with the Slitherlinks and made mistakes in them - wasted effort on my part.
@ 2011-08-22 6:31 AM (#5425 - in reply to #5380) (#5425) Top

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figonometry posted @ 2011-08-22 6:31 AM

General question: How soon after the test ends (and where) can we get the password? I rarely get the block of time to do a test, so I'm almost always just waiting for the end of the official time so I can start it.
@ 2011-08-22 6:32 AM (#5426 - in reply to #5425) (#5426) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-22 6:32 AM

It is fixed at

5:30:01 AM IST + Length of the test
(i.e. 00:00:01 AM GMT + Length of the test)

You can get the password from the test page itself. (You have to login though)

OR, couple of hours (not fixed) after the test is over, pdf without password is uploaded at http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/downloads.asp
@ 2011-08-22 6:37 AM (#5427 - in reply to #5426) (#5427) Top

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figonometry posted @ 2011-08-22 6:37 AM

debmohanty - 2011-08-22 6:32 AMYou can get the password from the test page itself. (You have to login though)
Thanks for the quick response! I am logged in, but the start button is disabled, so I can't 'start' the test and get the password. I can wait.
@ 2011-08-22 6:40 AM (#5428 - in reply to #5427) (#5428) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-22 6:40 AM

figonometry - 2011-08-22 6:37 AM

debmohanty - 2011-08-22 6:32 AMYou can get the password from the test page itself. (You have to login though)
Thanks for the quick response! I am logged in, but the start button is disabled, so I can't 'start' the test and get the password. I can wait.


The test gets over at 5:30AM. That means no one can start the test after 5:30AM.
The test gets *really* over at 7:10AM. So, you can see the password after 7:10AM.

Technically, we could display the password after 5:30AM. But we don't do that because may be some players are little late, and may ask to push the "end time" by some time.
@ 2011-08-22 8:52 AM (#5430 - in reply to #5380) (#5430) Top

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deu posted @ 2011-08-22 8:52 AM

Japanese Puzzle Land is over.

Congratulations to Thomas Snyder (all 25 puzzles, 550 pts), Kota Morinishi (21 puzzles, 434 pts), Taro Arimatsu (20 puzzles, 426 pts) for topping this test. And I must mention that Ken Endo got the same score as Taro.

Out of top 10 players, 7 are from Japan, 2 are from USA, and 1 is from Poland. From the results, we can easily see that Nikoli readers and/or Nikoli.com members had much advantage in this test.

258 players participated, out of which 203 got non-zero scores. In terms of the number of participants, this was the most successful puzzle test in LMI! Thank you for participating!

I will write something about the test later. I am exhausted after a 48 hours test now.
@ 2011-08-22 11:10 AM (#5433 - in reply to #5411) (#5433) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-22 11:10 AM

Administrator - 2011-08-19 9:17 PM

...This test has simplest of answer keys. ...

I totally agree that this test had the simplest of answer keys. And, most of the solvers had to spend only a few seconds to input the answer keys.

But, at the same time, the answer key also became much more prone to guessing - not for all puzzles, but for specific ones. If you had solved a little of these puzzles, you could guess the answer key with a fair chance of success. According to me, the puzzles which fell into this category were the ones which involved counting in certain rows/columns (eg hitori, shikaku, akari, etc).

Because of the answer key, in the end, I was encouraged to make guesses for broken or even almost blank puzzles. I made 4 guesses and got 2 right - for a total of 48 points. Thats almost 10% of points.

So, question to ponder: should we make the answer key just a bit harder - for counting based answer keys?
@ 2011-08-22 11:16 AM (#5434 - in reply to #5411) (#5434) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-22 11:16 AM

Administrator - 2011-08-19 9:17 PM

However, feel free to leave your feedback about the test in general after you complete the test. Its everyone's feedback that most authors look forward to.

Overall, a very enjoyable set of puzzles. I specially liked the new types - Shakashaka and Mochikoro - as never saw them before. Thanks to the puzzle team for an excellent test. And, Congratulations for the most successful test yet on LMI !!! (in terms of participation)
@ 2011-08-22 11:19 AM (#5435 - in reply to #5420) (#5435) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-22 11:19 AM

kiwijam - 2011-08-21 5:00 PM

A good set of puzzles, arigatoo gozaimashita, unfortunately I wasted too much time on big puzzles that never revealed their secrets to me... if only I was better at puzzles! :)

But at least I'm the first person to (claim to) have solved the password! Maybe that's worth some bonus points?

I also think you deserve some bonus points. But did you click on "Claim bonus"?

Can you also share the secret here, as I am not able to make anything out of it? (I initially thought something to do with Roman numbers, but there is no W in Roman numbers.)


Edited by rakesh_rai 2011-08-22 1:31 PM
@ 2011-08-22 12:18 PM (#5436 - in reply to #5435) (#5436) Top

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Nikola posted @ 2011-08-22 12:18 PM

A lot of giants was here. I always remember my perfect zero score on giant part in Minsk 2008.

I hope this is not a future of the puzzles. Try to imagine such sudoku contest with every second 12x12, 16x16 puzzle or larger. I think it wouldn't be interesting. Anyway, thanks to the authors. Also, I learned something about the history of the puzzles.

Nikola
@ 2011-08-22 1:45 PM (#5437 - in reply to #5380) (#5437) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-22 1:45 PM

Solution Booklet - http://logicmastersindia.com/lmitests/dl.asp?attachmentid=172&v1

It also has who created which puzzle and some interesting links.
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