Thread - Sudoku City — LMI August Sudoku Test

@ 2011-08-02 4:45 PM (#5318 - in reply to #5317) (#5318) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-02 4:45 PM

Fred76 - 2011-08-02 4:37 PM

It looks like it will be a skyscrapers month, with the skyscrapers contest on logic-masters (germany)

Yes, I hope that Sudoku City will serve as some practice for Skyscrapers contest at LMD

Fred76 - 2011-08-02 4:37 PM
I look forward to coming to sudoku city this weekend

It is interesting why Nikola named this set as "Sudoku City", and not "Skyscraper Sudokus"

@ 2011-08-02 5:01 PM (#5319 - in reply to #5318) (#5319) Top

Fred76

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Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-02 5:01 PM

debmohanty - 2011-08-02 4:45 PM

It is interesting why Nikola named this set as "Sudoku City", and not "Skyscraper Sudokus"

A 9*9 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 9*9 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city

@ 2011-08-02 6:17 PM (#5320 - in reply to #5294) (#5320) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-02 6:17 PM

any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?

@ 2011-08-02 6:45 PM (#5321 - in reply to #5319) (#5321) Top

rakesh_rai

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-02 6:45 PM

Fred76 - 2011-08-02 5:01 PM

A 9*9 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 9*9 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city

Among the Cities with most Skyscrapers, this city ranks second !!!

(skyscrapers.png)

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skyscrapers.png (44KB - 2 downloads)

@ 2011-08-02 7:07 PM (#5322 - in reply to #5294) (#5322) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-02 7:07 PM

add 4 more sudokus for the test and this will be the city with the maximum no. of skyscrappers

@ 2011-08-02 8:07 PM (#5323 - in reply to #5321) (#5323) Top

Fred76

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Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-02 8:07 PM

rakesh_rai - 2011-08-02 6:45 PM

Fred76 - 2011-08-02 5:01 PM

A 9*9 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 9*9 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city

Among the Cities with most Skyscrapers, this city ranks second !!!

@ 2011-08-03 12:30 AM (#5324 - in reply to #5320) (#5324) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2011-08-03 12:30 AM

akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM

any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?

http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/157

You can find a few of the variations that will appear there. (regular/jigsaw/even-odd/non-consecutive)

@ 2011-08-03 4:43 PM (#5329 - in reply to #5324) (#5329) Top

Fred76

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Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-03 4:43 PM

Para - 2011-08-03 12:30 AM

akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM

any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?

http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/157

You can find a few of the variations that will appear there. (regular/jigsaw/even-odd/non-consecutive)

You can find some "inside skyscrapers" (or hidden skyscrapers") here: http://stigant.livejournal.com/tag/hidden%20skyscraper%20sudoku

Here is my contribution (not easy grid):

(hiddensky.png)

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hiddensky.png (10KB - 5 downloads)

@ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM (#5330 - in reply to #5294) (#5330) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM

just as suggestion
is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out.
solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience..
plz reply...

@ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM (#5331 - in reply to #5329) (#5331) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM

One Total Skyscraper from me

@ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM (#5332 - in reply to #5330) (#5332) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-08-03 9:26 PM

just as suggestion
is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out.
solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience..
plz reply...

It is not always possible.
After creating the puzzles (and examples), authors spend lot of time writing the IB and PB. We can't ask them to write the solution booklet. It takes time.

It is much easier if you ask for solution of specific grids. Even if you ask 1 month after the test is over, I'm sure you'll get the solution posted in forum.

@ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM (#5333 - in reply to #5294) (#5333) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM

Attention top players : Change in Bonus points structure

We are making a change in the bonus points structure for this test.
Players solving all 12 puzzles correctly will get "1 point per minute saved" as bonus point.
Players solving 11 puzzles correctly (and 1 incorrectly) will get "1 point per 2 minutes saved" as bonus point.

We'll introduce "Claim Bonus" feature in this test.

You can click on "Claim Bonus" after ALL sudokus are submitted (either using online or paper mode).
Submissions will not be allowed after you "Claim Bonus"

Time bonus as discussed above will be computed from the time this button is clicked.

@ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM (#5334 - in reply to #5320) (#5334) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM

akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM

any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?

Roland Voigt's site - http://www.hochhausigel.de/e-varianten.html - lists lots of Skyscraper variations, many of them being original to that site.

@ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM (#5337 - in reply to #5294) (#5337) Top

akash.doulani

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akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM

can we have another skyscrapper from deb?

@ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM (#5338 - in reply to #5294) (#5338) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM

Here is a "First 3" Skyscraper (though it solves like a different type of Sudoku)

Enjoy!

@ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM (#5339 - in reply to #5338) (#5339) Top

Fred76

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Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM

Nice grid, despite the fact you didn't achieve to have 2 visible skyscrapers from bottom of column 3

@ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM (#5341 - in reply to #5321) (#5341) Top

muralik7

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muralik7 posted @ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM

@Rakesh,

this is good statistic

Edited by muralik7 2011-08-05 1:18 PM

@ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM (#5342 - in reply to #5341) (#5342) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM

Password protected Sudoku booklet uploaded. It has 6 pages, there is no header page, each page has 2 Sudokus.

@ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM (#5343 - in reply to #5294) (#5343) Top

swaroop2011

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM

can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle
PRODUCT (not got any number)
ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows)
plz reply..

@ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM (#5344 - in reply to #5343) (#5344) Top

Para

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Para posted @ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-08-05 11:37 PM

can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle
PRODUCT (not got any number)
ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows)
plz reply..

PRODUCT:
Opening: 720 in Row 1 = 1x2x3x4x5x6 or 2x3x4x5x6; 120 in Column 1 is 1x4x5x6 or 4x5x6. So R1C1 is 1. With that it shouldn't be too hard.

ODD/EVEN: After the 6's. The 5 in C2 can't be in R3 or R5 as that would force the clue in that row to 3 and it has to be even. So it has to go into R2C2, which also gives you the 5 in R1. Then check out R4 for where the 5 goes. It shouldn't be too hard from here on. Look at the 4s first when you've placed all 5s.

@ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM (#5345 - in reply to #5294) (#5345) Top

Administrator

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Administrator posted @ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM

Sudoku City has started - here is the link to score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/M201108S/score.asp

@ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM (#5346 - in reply to #5294) (#5346) Top

forcolin

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forcolin posted @ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

@ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM (#5347 - in reply to #5346) (#5347) Top

debmohanty

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Bad typo :-)
But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test

@ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM (#5348 - in reply to #5347) (#5348) Top

neerajmehrotra

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM

debmohanty - 2011-08-06 3:15 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Bad typo :-)
But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test

A better version would be
"Consider my score for the LMI ratings"
This would not require frequent changes. Can be implemented after this test is over.

@ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM (#5349 - in reply to #5346) (#5349) Top

rakesh_rai

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Its a bit of both


	@ 2011-08-02 4:45 PM (#5318 - in reply to #5317) (#5318) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-02 4:45 PM Fred76 - 2011-08-02 4:37 PM It looks like it will be a skyscrapers month, with the skyscrapers contest on logic-masters (germany) Yes, I hope that Sudoku City will serve as some practice for Skyscrapers contest at LMD Fred76 - 2011-08-02 4:37 PM I look forward to coming to sudoku city this weekend It is interesting why Nikola named this set as "Sudoku City", and not "Skyscraper Sudokus"
	@ 2011-08-02 5:01 PM (#5319 - in reply to #5318) (#5319) Top
Fred76 Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland	Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-02 5:01 PM debmohanty - 2011-08-02 4:45 PM It is interesting why Nikola named this set as "Sudoku City", and not "Skyscraper Sudokus" A 99 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 99 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city
	@ 2011-08-02 6:17 PM (#5320 - in reply to #5294) (#5320) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-02 6:17 PM any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?
	@ 2011-08-02 6:45 PM (#5321 - in reply to #5319) (#5321) Top
rakesh_rai Posts: 774 Country : India	rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-02 6:45 PM Fred76 - 2011-08-02 5:01 PM A 99 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 99 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city Among the Cities with most Skyscrapers, this city ranks second !!! (skyscrapers.png) Attachments ---------------- skyscrapers.png (44KB - 2 downloads)
	@ 2011-08-02 7:07 PM (#5322 - in reply to #5294) (#5322) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-02 7:07 PM add 4 more sudokus for the test and this will be the city with the maximum no. of skyscrappers
	@ 2011-08-02 8:07 PM (#5323 - in reply to #5321) (#5323) Top
Fred76 Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland	Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-02 8:07 PM rakesh_rai - 2011-08-02 6:45 PM Fred76 - 2011-08-02 5:01 PM A 99 sudoku contains 81 skyscrapers. There will be 12 99 grids on this contest, so it makes 972 skyscrapers... This is undoubtedly a beautiful little city Among the Cities with most Skyscrapers, this city ranks second !!!
	@ 2011-08-03 12:30 AM (#5324 - in reply to #5320) (#5324) Top
Para Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands	Para posted @ 2011-08-03 12:30 AM akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ? http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/157 You can find a few of the variations that will appear there. (regular/jigsaw/even-odd/non-consecutive)
	@ 2011-08-03 4:43 PM (#5329 - in reply to #5324) (#5329) Top
Fred76 Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland	Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-03 4:43 PM Para - 2011-08-03 12:30 AM akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ? http://www.sachsentext.de/en/taxonomy/term/157 You can find a few of the variations that will appear there. (regular/jigsaw/even-odd/non-consecutive) You can find some "inside skyscrapers" (or hidden skyscrapers") here: http://stigant.livejournal.com/tag/hidden%20skyscraper%20sudoku Here is my contribution (not easy grid): (hiddensky.png) Attachments ---------------- hiddensky.png (10KB - 5 downloads)
	@ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM (#5330 - in reply to #5294) (#5330) Top
swaroop2011 Posts: 668 Country : India	swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM just as suggestion is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out. solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience.. plz reply...
	@ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM (#5331 - in reply to #5329) (#5331) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM One Total Skyscraper from me
	@ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM (#5332 - in reply to #5330) (#5332) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM swaroop2011 - 2011-08-03 9:26 PM just as suggestion is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out. solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience.. plz reply... It is not always possible. After creating the puzzles (and examples), authors spend lot of time writing the IB and PB. We can't ask them to write the solution booklet. It takes time. It is much easier if you ask for solution of specific grids. Even if you ask 1 month after the test is over, I'm sure you'll get the solution posted in forum.
	@ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM (#5333 - in reply to #5294) (#5333) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM Attention top players : Change in Bonus points structure We are making a change in the bonus points structure for this test. Players solving all 12 puzzles correctly will get "1 point per minute saved" as bonus point. Players solving 11 puzzles correctly (and 1 incorrectly) will get "1 point per 2 minutes saved" as bonus point. We'll introduce "Claim Bonus" feature in this test. You can click on "Claim Bonus" after ALL sudokus are submitted (either using online or paper mode). Submissions will not be allowed after you "Claim Bonus" Time bonus as discussed above will be computed from the time this button is clicked.
	@ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM (#5334 - in reply to #5320) (#5334) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ? Roland Voigt's site - http://www.hochhausigel.de/e-varianten.html - lists lots of Skyscraper variations, many of them being original to that site.
	@ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM (#5337 - in reply to #5294) (#5337) Top
akash.doulani Posts: 157 Country : India	akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM can we have another skyscrapper from deb?
	@ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM (#5338 - in reply to #5294) (#5338) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM Here is a "First 3" Skyscraper (though it solves like a different type of Sudoku) Enjoy!
	@ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM (#5339 - in reply to #5338) (#5339) Top
Fred76 Posts: 337 Country : Switzerland	Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM Nice grid, despite the fact you didn't achieve to have 2 visible skyscrapers from bottom of column 3
	@ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM (#5341 - in reply to #5321) (#5341) Top
muralik7 Posts: 10 Country : India	muralik7 posted @ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM @Rakesh, this is good statistic Edited by muralik7 2011-08-05 1:18 PM
	@ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM (#5342 - in reply to #5341) (#5342) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM Password protected Sudoku booklet uploaded. It has 6 pages, there is no header page, each page has 2 Sudokus.
	@ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM (#5343 - in reply to #5294) (#5343) Top
swaroop2011 Posts: 668 Country : India	swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle PRODUCT (not got any number) ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows) plz reply..
	@ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM (#5344 - in reply to #5343) (#5344) Top
Para Posts: 315 Country : The Netherlands	Para posted @ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM swaroop2011 - 2011-08-05 11:37 PM can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle PRODUCT (not got any number) ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows) plz reply.. PRODUCT: Opening: 720 in Row 1 = 1x2x3x4x5x6 or 2x3x4x5x6; 120 in Column 1 is 1x4x5x6 or 4x5x6. So R1C1 is 1. With that it shouldn't be too hard. ODD/EVEN: After the 6's. The 5 in C2 can't be in R3 or R5 as that would force the clue in that row to 3 and it has to be even. So it has to go into R2C2, which also gives you the 5 in R1. Then check out R4 for where the 5 goes. It shouldn't be too hard from here on. Look at the 4s first when you've placed all 5s.
	@ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM (#5345 - in reply to #5294) (#5345) Top
Administrator Country : India	Administrator posted @ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM Sudoku City has started - here is the link to score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/M201108S/score.asp
	@ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM (#5346 - in reply to #5294) (#5346) Top
forcolin Posts: 172 Country : ITALY	forcolin posted @ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?
	@ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM (#5347 - in reply to #5346) (#5347) Top
debmohanty Country : India	debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest? Bad typo :-) But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test
	@ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM (#5348 - in reply to #5347) (#5348) Top
neerajmehrotra Posts: 329 Country : India	neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM debmohanty - 2011-08-06 3:15 PM forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest? Bad typo :-) But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test A better version would be "Consider my score for the LMI ratings" This would not require frequent changes. Can be implemented after this test is over.
	@ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM (#5349 - in reply to #5346) (#5349) Top
rakesh_rai Posts: 774 Country : India	rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest? Its a bit of both