Thread - Sudoku City — LMI August Sudoku Test

@ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM (#5330 - in reply to #5294) (#5330) Top

swaroop2011

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Country : India

swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-03 9:26 PM

just as suggestion
is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out.
solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience..
plz reply...

@ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM (#5331 - in reply to #5329) (#5331) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:43 PM

One Total Skyscraper from me

@ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM (#5332 - in reply to #5330) (#5332) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 10:47 PM

swaroop2011 - 2011-08-03 9:26 PM

just as suggestion
is it possible that after the test a pdf containing solution would be uploaded so that after the test is over for those who didnt got all the puzzles can check it out.
solution can by only solved grids or with few steps whichever is convenience..
plz reply...

It is not always possible.
After creating the puzzles (and examples), authors spend lot of time writing the IB and PB. We can't ask them to write the solution booklet. It takes time.

It is much easier if you ask for solution of specific grids. Even if you ask 1 month after the test is over, I'm sure you'll get the solution posted in forum.

@ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM (#5333 - in reply to #5294) (#5333) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:00 PM

Attention top players : Change in Bonus points structure

We are making a change in the bonus points structure for this test.
Players solving all 12 puzzles correctly will get "1 point per minute saved" as bonus point.
Players solving 11 puzzles correctly (and 1 incorrectly) will get "1 point per 2 minutes saved" as bonus point.

We'll introduce "Claim Bonus" feature in this test.

You can click on "Claim Bonus" after ALL sudokus are submitted (either using online or paper mode).
Submissions will not be allowed after you "Claim Bonus"

Time bonus as discussed above will be computed from the time this button is clicked.

@ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM (#5334 - in reply to #5320) (#5334) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-03 11:12 PM

akash.doulani - 2011-08-02 6:17 PM

any links where we can find variations of skyscrappers ?

Roland Voigt's site - http://www.hochhausigel.de/e-varianten.html - lists lots of Skyscraper variations, many of them being original to that site.

@ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM (#5337 - in reply to #5294) (#5337) Top

akash.doulani

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Country : India

akash.doulani posted @ 2011-08-04 6:29 PM

can we have another skyscrapper from deb?

@ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM (#5338 - in reply to #5294) (#5338) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-04 10:00 PM

Here is a "First 3" Skyscraper (though it solves like a different type of Sudoku)

Enjoy!

@ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM (#5339 - in reply to #5338) (#5339) Top

Fred76

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Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-04 10:34 PM

Nice grid, despite the fact you didn't achieve to have 2 visible skyscrapers from bottom of column 3

@ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM (#5341 - in reply to #5321) (#5341) Top

muralik7

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Country : India

muralik7 posted @ 2011-08-05 1:17 PM

@Rakesh,

this is good statistic

Edited by muralik7 2011-08-05 1:18 PM

@ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM (#5342 - in reply to #5341) (#5342) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2011-08-05 10:42 PM

Password protected Sudoku booklet uploaded. It has 6 pages, there is no header page, each page has 2 Sudokus.

@ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM (#5343 - in reply to #5294) (#5343) Top

swaroop2011

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Country : India

swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-05 11:37 PM

can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle
PRODUCT (not got any number)
ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows)
plz reply..

@ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM (#5344 - in reply to #5343) (#5344) Top

Para

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Country : The Netherlands

Para posted @ 2011-08-06 3:00 AM

swaroop2011 - 2011-08-05 11:37 PM

can anybody tell how to solve the instruction booklet puzzle
PRODUCT (not got any number)
ODD/EVEN ( just placed DIgit "6" in all the rows)
plz reply..

PRODUCT:
Opening: 720 in Row 1 = 1x2x3x4x5x6 or 2x3x4x5x6; 120 in Column 1 is 1x4x5x6 or 4x5x6. So R1C1 is 1. With that it shouldn't be too hard.

ODD/EVEN: After the 6's. The 5 in C2 can't be in R3 or R5 as that would force the clue in that row to 3 and it has to be even. So it has to go into R2C2, which also gives you the 5 in R1. Then check out R4 for where the 5 goes. It shouldn't be too hard from here on. Look at the 4s first when you've placed all 5s.

@ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM (#5345 - in reply to #5294) (#5345) Top

Administrator

Country : India

Administrator posted @ 2011-08-06 6:37 AM

Sudoku City has started - here is the link to score page - http://logicmastersindia.com/M201108S/score.asp

@ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM (#5346 - in reply to #5294) (#5346) Top

forcolin

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Country : ITALY

forcolin posted @ 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

@ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM (#5347 - in reply to #5346) (#5347) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-06 3:15 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Bad typo :-)
But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test

@ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM (#5348 - in reply to #5347) (#5348) Top

neerajmehrotra

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Country : India

neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-08-06 3:26 PM

debmohanty - 2011-08-06 3:15 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

possible typo. The test page says "Consider my score for the LMI puzzle rating". Sholdn't say "for the LMI SUDOKU rating"? is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Bad typo :-)
But no changes to interface while the test is running. Will change for the text test

A better version would be
"Consider my score for the LMI ratings"
This would not require frequent changes. Can be implemented after this test is over.

@ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM (#5349 - in reply to #5346) (#5349) Top

rakesh_rai

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-08-06 3:57 PM

forcolin - 2011-08-06 3:13 PM

is this a sudoku contest or a puzzle contest?

Its a bit of both

@ 2011-08-06 7:58 PM (#5350 - in reply to #5294) (#5350) Top

motris

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Country : United States

motris posted @ 2011-08-06 7:58 PM

Thanks for a very fun test Nikola. I wish I didn't have to travel this weekend (forcing me to wake up at 4:30 AM to compete), but I'm glad I got the chance to see this beautiful, beautiful city to start my journey.

Edited by motris 2011-08-06 8:18 PM

@ 2011-08-07 5:48 PM (#5352 - in reply to #5294) (#5352) Top

neerajmehrotra

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Country : India

neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-08-07 5:48 PM

another test full of challenge and fun............I really sometimes wonder if we do not have these monthly LMI tests...how boring will become these weekends.

@ 2011-08-07 6:05 PM (#5353 - in reply to #5294) (#5353) Top

swaroop2011

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Country : India

swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-08-07 6:05 PM

was a tough test for me !!!!!
I THINK I NEED LOTS OF PRACTISE AND PRACTISE..........
But nice set of sudokus.
Enjoyed a lot whatever i was doing during those 100 min..

Edited by swaroop2011 2011-08-07 6:06 PM

@ 2011-08-07 6:12 PM (#5354 - in reply to #5294) (#5354) Top

thesubro

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Country : United States

thesubro posted @ 2011-08-07 6:12 PM

Enjoyable test indeed. Thanks for adding to my weekend.

p.s. What is up with the ever increasing number of folks who are registered and who sign in to take the test and then submit no results? My jaded American mindset is that there may be many folks registering under one name to get the test, solve it, and then return under another name to solve well later. Anything that can be done with additional technology to prevent this, or are we all just on the honor system here? Sorry to drop a mess on the table here, but the fact that so many signed up and didnt enter is disturbing - and its only been increasing.

TheSubro

Edited by thesubro 2011-08-07 6:13 PM

@ 2011-08-07 9:49 PM (#5355 - in reply to #5294) (#5355) Top

Ours brun

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Ours brun posted @ 2011-08-07 9:49 PM

Many other possible reasons to this. Some of these players can simply not have a printer - they get the puzzles, and they will print them or copy them by hand later. Some may not have enough free time to participate; so, again, they get the files now and solve later.
There are also some players who do not want the others to know their score - many consider that they are not skilled enough and are afraid of being ridiculous, while some are skilled and that's the reason why they do not want other top players to know about their strengths and weaknesses. I know such players.
Finally, some are just not interested at speed solving, so they see no interest in sending back answers within a time limit.

@ 2011-08-07 9:57 PM (#5356 - in reply to #5354) (#5356) Top

debmohanty

Country : India

debmohanty posted @ 2011-08-07 9:57 PM

Some raw statistics about NonZero scores. Not much significant change over months.
More about this after the test is over.

2010

2011

TestName	NonZeroPercent
Master Mind Twins	71.11%
SPEED SIXES	88.89%
EverGreens	76.24%
Classic Look-Alikes	79.75%
Sampler Platter	88.41%
Qixi Festivale Special	72.34%
Broken Pieces	81.52%
EverGreens II	77.57%
Sudoku Hotpot	84.18%
Nikoli Selection 2010	82.51%
20/10 Puzzle Decathlon	84.51%
Renban Grouped Sudokus	88.83%
FLIP	85.22%
Screen Test #1	97.34%
Puzzles & Chess	71.68%
X'Mas Special Sudoku	87.95%

TestName	NonZeroPercent
Puzzle Jackpot	75.43%
Prime Exotica	77.42%
Double Delight	76.30%
Melon's Puzzle Zoo	71.20%
Puzzle Hybrids	76.19%
LMI Spring Sudoku Test	73.94%
Twist	77.22%
LMI April Sudoku Test	77.70%
MAYnipulation	71.55%
Something is Missing	67.83%
Fillomino Fillia	80.79%
LOGIDOKU	83.97%
Nikoli Selection 2011	77.78%
Fivefold Sudoku Test	90.05%
Magic Cube	79.31%
Sudoku City	??.??%

@ 2011-08-07 10:25 PM (#5357 - in reply to #5355) (#5357) Top

Fred76

Posts: 337

Country : Switzerland

Fred76 posted @ 2011-08-07 10:25 PM

Ours brun - 2011-08-07 9:49 PM

some are skilled and that's the reason why they do not want other top players to know about their strengths and weaknesses. I know such players.

Ours brun, are you French ???

(Sorry, private joke

)

Fred

@ 2011-08-08 1:50 AM (#5358 - in reply to #5354) (#5358) Top

greenhorn

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Country : Slovakia

greenhorn posted @ 2011-08-08 1:50 AM

It is also my case. I get used to start the test and not submit my answers. I really hate rewriting the solved columns/rows, because always make some stupid typos and such mistakes. For me it is not important to be in the results table. I omit the last 5 minutes (the time of possible submiting) and that is how I can still compare my participation with the other contestants