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@ 2011-06-16 7:50 PM (#4892 - in reply to #4871) (#4892) Top

SKnight



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SKnight posted @ 2011-06-16 7:50 PM

They repeat in the outlined (irregular) regions if you swap both pairs


Ah! Got it. The outlined regions were a little subtle -- didn't really notice them.
I'm glad I asked -- now I know to look for them on the real test.
@ 2011-06-17 1:15 AM (#4893 - in reply to #4823) (#4893) Top

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DreamRose311 posted @ 2011-06-17 1:15 AM

Hmmm, does anyone else think this should affect the Sudoku ratings AND and the puzzle ratings? Hehe... This looks like a lot of fun, can't wait!
@ 2011-06-17 2:42 PM (#4894 - in reply to #4823) (#4894) Top

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rob posted @ 2011-06-17 2:42 PM

After solving the puzzles in the instructions booklet, I'm looking forward to this a lot. The sample puzzles were very well done, and some were really tricky. So I think we can expect some beautiful puzzles, and fear some very difficult ones.
@ 2011-06-17 4:12 PM (#4895 - in reply to #4893) (#4895) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-06-17 4:12 PM

DreamRose311 - 2011-06-17 1:15 AM

Hmmm, does anyone else think this should affect the Sudoku ratings AND and the puzzle ratings?...

You do have a point...puzzle experts definitely have some advantage in this test.
@ 2011-06-17 4:43 PM (#4896 - in reply to #4895) (#4896) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-17 4:43 PM

rakesh_rai - 2011-06-17 4:12 PM
You do have a point...puzzle experts definitely have some advantage in this test.

We had a very similar mock16 last year. While the competition has changed considerably at LMI since then, the results of mock16 suggested that 'puzzle experts' don't really have much advantage. Having solved couple of actual puzzles from the test, I think the 'Sudoku part' is as dominant as in other Sudoku tests.
@ 2011-06-17 11:38 PM (#4897 - in reply to #4823) (#4897) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-17 11:38 PM

Password protected booklet uploaded. It has 10 pages, each page has one 6X6 and one 9X9 of the same type.
@ 2011-06-18 5:54 AM (#4898 - in reply to #4897) (#4898) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-18 5:54 AM

LOGIDOKU has started.
@ 2011-06-18 3:48 PM (#4899 - in reply to #4823) (#4899) Top

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rakesh_rai posted @ 2011-06-18 3:48 PM

Thanks to the authors. Nice collection of sudokuzzles and puzzledokus - of varying complexities.
@ 2011-06-18 6:08 PM (#4900 - in reply to #4823) (#4900) Top

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aj0816 posted @ 2011-06-18 6:08 PM

Thank you very much for the nice puzzles!
Unfortunally I made a stupid mistake, and wrote my solution for the Kakuro-Sudoku (small and big) in the answer field for the japanese sums.
Is there a possibility of getting the points anyway? Would be great!
@ 2011-06-18 7:02 PM (#4901 - in reply to #4900) (#4901) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-18 7:02 PM

aj0816 - 2011-06-18 6:08 PM

Thank you very much for the nice puzzles!
Unfortunally I made a stupid mistake, and wrote my solution for the Kakuro-Sudoku (small and big) in the answer field for the japanese sums.
Is there a possibility of getting the points anyway? Would be great!
You should see the credits for Kakuro-Sudoku puzzles now.
@ 2011-06-18 7:57 PM (#4902 - in reply to #4823) (#4902) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-06-18 7:57 PM

thanks to the authors.
nice set of puzzles.
enjoyed a lot.
the big one's are excellent.
hope to improve on it in future.
@ 2011-06-19 1:10 AM (#4903 - in reply to #4823) (#4903) Top

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neerajmehrotra posted @ 2011-06-19 1:10 AM

Thanks a lot to organisers and authors for an excellent set of mind boggling sudokus...
@ 2011-06-19 12:10 PM (#4904 - in reply to #4823) (#4904) Top

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rvarun posted @ 2011-06-19 12:10 PM

I m getting multiple solutions for Kropki small
@ 2011-06-19 12:20 PM (#4905 - in reply to #4823) (#4905) Top

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swaroop2011 posted @ 2011-06-19 12:20 PM

you must be doing some mistake.there is only one solution possible. detailed clarification can be done once the test is over
@ 2011-06-19 12:32 PM (#4906 - in reply to #4823) (#4906) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-19 12:32 PM

Thanks Swaroop for clarifying.

rvarun,
1) if you are getting multiple solutions (which I believe is impossible), please submit any of your answers.
2) don't post messages like 'there are multiple solutions or there are no solutions' before you are absolutely certain. It doesn't help anybody, rather it creates confusion.
@ 2011-06-19 4:04 PM (#4907 - in reply to #4823) (#4907) Top

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Tejal Phatak posted @ 2011-06-19 4:04 PM

I have entered '9' instead of '1' in the big Fence Sudoku. Any chance of getting the points for it? :|
@ 2011-06-19 5:30 PM (#4908 - in reply to #4823) (#4908) Top

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Para posted @ 2011-06-19 5:30 PM

There were some nice puzzles. I enjoyed the test. Solved a little less than I had hoped. Made a mistake in one of the puzzles, which turned out to not be one, I just missed how it could work so started over for nothing.
I switched the column and row entry for the Big Japanese Sums sudoku. Not really sure why. I was being careful with the answer keys. My other mistake was just sloppiness because of having to draw lines through the grid.

Edited by Para 2011-06-19 5:43 PM
@ 2011-06-19 6:39 PM (#4909 - in reply to #4823) (#4909) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-19 6:39 PM

All rows/columns swaps are considered as valid answers. There is no automatic check on that, but eventually everyone making that kind of swap will get points.
@ 2011-06-19 9:38 PM (#4910 - in reply to #4907) (#4910) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-19 9:38 PM

Tejal Phatak - 2011-06-19 4:04 PM

I have entered '9' instead of '1' in the big Fence Sudoku. Any chance of getting the points for it? :|

Very strange typo indeed. As discussed after Fillomino-Fillia, you get 80% of the puzzle points.
@ 2011-06-20 4:43 AM (#4911 - in reply to #4823) (#4911) Top

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puzzlemad posted @ 2011-06-20 4:43 AM

A lovely set of puzzles. Thank you very much for setting and organising this. I've made a silly typo on the large tapa - putting an 8 instead of the given 9. Can I be credited with this please? Thanks again.
@ 2011-06-20 5:44 AM (#4912 - in reply to #4823) (#4912) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-20 5:44 AM

Hi Liane, we haven't given points to any single digits typos (except in Tejal's case).

We probably need everyone's suggestion on how to deal with single digit typos, there are way too many in the submissions, in this test and also in previous tests.
As I see it, they can be a typo or a solving error. But to determine what kind of error it is a too difficult, and may not be possible in certain cases.
So, as of now, all Single digit typos get 0 points. It will be nice to come up some suggestion to deal with these.
@ 2011-06-20 6:34 AM (#4913 - in reply to #4823) (#4913) Top

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Administrator posted @ 2011-06-20 6:34 AM

Congratulations to Nikola for winning LOGIDOKU by a huge margin. He had very similar results in SPEED Sixes in last June.
Misko and uvo are very close to each other( and to several other participants), and are separated by 80 seconds. They complete the podium.

Among Indian players, Rohan stands at 11th with a very impressive performance.

Thank you everyone for participating.
@ 2011-06-20 8:31 AM (#4914 - in reply to #4911) (#4914) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-20 8:31 AM

puzzlemad - 2011-06-20 4:43 AM

A lovely set of puzzles. Thank you very much for setting and organising this. I've made a silly typo on the large tapa - putting an 8 instead of the given 9. Can I be credited with this please? Thanks again.

The typo is on the given hint. So, you get points. Sorry to have overlooked earlier.
@ 2011-06-20 10:00 AM (#4915 - in reply to #4823) (#4915) Top

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deu posted @ 2011-06-20 10:00 AM

Thanks for a great contest and congratulations to Nikola! There are many good Sudokus combined with other logical puzzle. My favourite puzzles in this test are Japanese Sums (bottom), Pairs (both) and Tapa (bottom).

It is regrettable that I broke 6 puzzles and wasted a lot of time to fix them. Moreover, I could not send the correct solution of Skyscrapers (bottom) by 1 second. I filled 16 cells 45 seconds before the end of the test and sent one of 2 possible solutions. I continued solving and found that my "solution" was wrong and swapped two digits in the answer form. But, when I was moving my mouse to "Submit" button, contest has ended.

If "single digit typo" is allowed, I had the option to enter the same digit twice intentionally to earn points. In Japanese Number Place Championship, competitors are required to send 4 digits in shaded cells (see here). If carefully chosen by authors, I think 4 cells are enough to judge whether each competitor solved the puzzle or not. This will evidently decrease the possibility of typos, so this is my suggestion.

Edited by deu 2011-06-20 10:09 AM
@ 2011-06-20 10:37 AM (#4916 - in reply to #4915) (#4916) Top

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debmohanty posted @ 2011-06-20 10:37 AM

deu - 2011-06-20 10:00 AM

If "single digit typo" is allowed, I had the option to enter the same digit twice intentionally to earn points. In Japanese Number Place Championship, competitors are required to send 4 digits in shaded cells (see here). If carefully chosen by authors, I think 4 cells are enough to judge whether each competitor solved the puzzle or not. This will evidently decrease the possibility of typos, so this is my suggestion.

Yes, judging "single digit typo" is indeed difficult, and that is precisely the reason why we haven't given any points to them in this test (and in earlier Sudoku tests).

Entering just 4 digits (instead of 2 rows/columns) indeed will be a great step forward to eliminate typos. However, the authors have to be extremely careful in marking the cells. I am not sure if we can do it all Sudoku tests, but if authors can confidently mark 4 cells, we can try it out.
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